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Los Angeles Neighborhood Council Coalition (LANCC) - Shared screen with gallery view
Glenn Bailey
21:58
Please use Chat to direct questions to Julien. Thanks...
Glenn Bailey
42:42
CORRECTION: Please direct your questions on Julien's presentation to David Uebersax as host so he can ask them
Glenn Bailey
51:41
The link to the Zoom recording of this presentation -- and the entire meeting -- will be posted on the LANCC website later today: www.LANCC.org
Glenn Bailey
01:12:27
Please send questions for Raquel Beltran to co-host David Uebersax… Thanks
David Uebersax
01:31:06
CF 21-0407 (Rodriguez/Cecillo)
David Uebersax
01:31:59
CF 20-0990 mandatory trainings
Glenn Bailey
01:33:24
Council File 21-0407To Arts, Parks, Health, Education, and Neighborhoods CommitteeMotion (Rodriguez - Cedillo) relative to instructing the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment to report with a survey of Neighborhood Council election rules; and request the City Attorney to report on the City Council's authority to standardize election rules.
David Uebersax
01:44:33
Next hand is Keren, then Lydia...a couple chat questions, then Bob and Kay...
Glenn Bailey
01:48:44
Here is the direct link to the actual motion wording regarding NC Elections, etc. Council File 21-0407: https://clkrep.lacity.org/onlinedocs/2021/21-0407_misc_4-14-21.pdf
Glenn Bailey
02:02:06
Message from BONC Commissioner Shaffer: Please put in the chat that the grievance ordinance is Los Angeles Administrative Code Sec 22.818. The ordinance can be reviewed and suggestions for revision can be submitted to DONE
Julien Antelin
02:19:45
https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/los_angeles/latest/laac/0-0-0-82314#JD_22.818.
Julien Antelin
02:20:00
Sec. 22.818. Neighborhood Council Grievances.
Julien Antelin
02:20:21
Have a great rest of the day!
Velinda&DavidRockello(they/them) (Media, killradio.org)(Chinatow
02:24:54
So glad all of you are here this month & hope to see you all again next month too.
Glenn Bailey
02:25:05
CONGRESS INFO: Link to 2021 Congress Planning Survey: www.tinyurl.com/CoN21inputTo view agenda for today’s 1:30pm Planning Committee Meeting: https://tinyurl.com/CoN21-050121To be added to the mailing list, submit names for the in memoriam, email lacongressnc@gmail.comTo access Congress NC Sponsorship Form to submit after Board Action: https://tinyurl.com/CoNsponsor
Heather S. Michaels
02:26:12
So glad to see everyone here, thank you, as we appreciate and always respect all our colleagues. Please join us at 1:30pm for our Congress Planning Committee
Tony Wilkinson
02:26:24
OVERTHROW EVERYONE IN THE CITY!!!!
Glenn Bailey
02:30:06
Northridge East NC just voted for a $2,000 contribution to the Congress of Neighborhoods....
Heather S. Michaels
02:30:12
we encourage everyone to participate
Heather S. Michaels
02:30:28
Re-Imagining the Congress, and the program facilitation.
Heather S. Michaels
02:30:48
Thank you, Tony
Daniel A. Perez (he/him)
02:31:22
Woohoo! Thanks Northridge East!
Heather S. Michaels
02:31:34
Please folks, fill out the survey and let us know your thoughts!
Liz Amsden
02:32:10
Can you post that link for people who have completed the Congress survey but may not have had ideas at the time for workshops
Heather S. Michaels
02:38:16
Glenn has his hand up
Bob Gelfand
02:38:24
Lydia: Was your nc election run by the Clerk?
Jennifer Goodie
02:40:48
Isn’t it her job to be familiar with the charter before trying to legislate?
Velinda&DavidRockello(they/them) (Media, killradio.org)(Chinatow
02:44:05
Two different systems, two different sets of rules!
Liz Amsden
02:51:13
Different voters qualify in the NC system. BUT you CAN call and do a work-around by calling the City Clerk's office. I did.
Liz Amsden
02:54:35
It's not the precincts - the City Clerk can deal with that. It's the work/school aspect and the under 18s who cannot be tracked out of the State system.
call in
02:55:06
Likely the city clerk portal system was not as user friendly. Just like dealing w your bank, etc
Leonard Shaffer
02:56:12
How do you differentiate between stakeholder groups if you use the city voting roles. Many NCs have different stakeholders qualifying for different ballots
Liz Amsden
02:56:26
The City Clerk can tell people how to manage the system while protecting themselves from identity theft or ICE.
ASAAD ALNAJJAR-PRNC
02:56:37
The portal was very user friendly and easy to use. Problem was stakeholders are afraid to share copies of their credentials.
Nina Royal
02:57:07
We need to go back to voting in person the same as we did before COVID,always have. The only reason by the Mail vote was because of Covic! They can show their eligibility at the voting poll. no copies by mail required
Liz Amsden
02:57:15
Agreed. I submitted my DL with the date hidden and gave a wrong DOB.
call in
02:57:34
No. Some said the attachment of documentation they tried 10 times and thought it worked but it didn’t
Keren Waters-GHNNC
02:57:52
Further to Asaad's point. There is too much id theft and stakeholders are concerned about it.
Glenn Bailey
02:59:21
Voter Documentation submitted to City Clerk is viewed and then deleted -- it is not retained.
Garry Fordyce
02:59:38
Using the City & County Registered Voter System would Disenfrachise : The Undocumented; Felons: Rapists, Child Molesters, Children and ALL Other inclusiveness Mandated by the Los Angeles City Charter, BONC, DONE and the Plan. Change the system and gain voters and assimilate with our federal, state, county and city system representing our American System of Democracy !
call in
03:00:14
Yes. It’s political. Monica’s choices didn’t work hard enough to get candidates, registrations and vote.
Bob Gelfand
03:00:18
Sid — it’s not so much central government as monarchy over us.
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:00:41
There should be one, 2 days max, when we have all NC elections on the same day.
Bob Gelfand
03:01:13
It’s not right to blame the people for not voting, but the city for doing its best to keep quiet about the existence of the neighborhood councils.
Glenn Bailey
03:01:18
I registered (Documentation) in five minutes and received my Ballot two days later
call in
03:02:26
Yes. 14 registrations didn’t count due to the fax machine glitch.
Liz Amsden
03:02:43
Agreed all on the same day. And in regards to showing documentation, agreed, but EVVERYONE needs to know that NO COPIES are to be made. EVERY time I voted, they wanted to take copies. ILLEGAL.
Danielle Davis
03:03:03
Glenn, we had many clerk problems in Echo Park. Some of our Members on the Elections Committee got the Wrong ballots. Many stakeholders didn't receive them at all
Glenn Bailey
03:03:59
LANCC will likely be holding a post-election wrap up session once all NC Elections have concluded. It may be during our July meeting or a separate session...
Glenn Bailey
03:05:18
These post-election wrap up sessions attempt to recommend improvements in the NC Elections going forward...
Keren Waters-GHNNC
03:05:35
True Heather. Unfortunately, not all stakeholders are proficient in cyber security and endanger of being hacked.
Tony Wilkinson
03:05:36
WHAT IS THE MOTION???
raquel beltran
03:05:53
correction on my statement re : planning 101 training. it is not available now
Keren Waters-GHNNC
03:06:04
"in danger"
Danielle Davis
03:06:09
EPNC Elections Committee plans on gathering experiences and submitting a strongly worded letter to the Clerk, BONC, DONE and City Council
Bob Gelfand
03:06:09
Question to the moderators: How can we offer a motion or even a second if you keep us all muted?
Heather S. Michaels
03:06:24
yes, Keren, agree. But, also the fax for the city did not work and ALL those folks submitting via fax were not counted
David Uebersax
03:06:42
Bob, there was a hand raised I saw...
Bob Gelfand
03:06:48
Motion: Lance opposes the City Council File Number xxxx as an attack on the neighborhood council system
Danielle Davis
03:07:50
I second
Leonard Shaffer
03:08:33
council file 21-0470
Heather S. Michaels
03:08:37
I would second!
Heather S. Michaels
03:08:44
thank you to Danielle
Danielle Davis
03:09:10
your welcome!
Danielle Davis
03:09:29
*you're
Sharon Brewer
03:09:41
Was City Clerk immediately notified in writing that there was a problem with the fax number on ballot request?
call in
03:09:50
Look at how much $$ it will cost DONE, CA and City Clerk to handle this motion ?
Jennifer Goodie
03:11:19
I will second
Garry Fordyce
03:11:22
second
Tony Wilkinson
03:12:00
Kay, please send you text to EVERYONE
Tony Wilkinson
03:13:57
That is RACHAEL's personal position. That is NOT how we wpork at LANCC.
Lou Caravella, Central San Pedro
03:13:57
*21-0407*
Velinda&DavidRockello(they/them) (Media, killradio.org)(Chinatow
03:14:04
Vote President Armstrong!
Tony Wilkinson
03:14:50
All members here SELF-muzzle if they choose. Otherwise, LANCC vote is our vote as INDIVIDUAL members of an NC.
Bob Gelfand
03:15:33
Rachel and others — We had this debate at great length at the founding of Lancc close to a dozen years ago. Your vote is not binding on your neighborhood council but represents the views of those present on this day. I don’t wish to relitigate this questiojn
Velinda&DavidRockello(they/them) (Media, killradio.org)(Chinatow
03:15:34
You can bring this back to the RVNC at next meeting. There is no conflict.
Tony Wilkinson
03:16:35
Any city council member can make a motion. It then goes to the appropriate committee.
Tony Wilkinson
03:17:59
The original motion is probably a better sound bite.
Keren Waters-GHNNC
03:18:18
I understand that completely Tony. Just an observation.
Tony Wilkinson
03:19:29
NO. Want to act today. Am leaning against the amendment.
Bob Gelfand
03:19:45
Sid — yes, we could add a whereas, but a simple statement of opposition speaks for itself and is acceptable under Parliamentary procedure.
Tony Wilkinson
03:19:51
Len has another reason for NOT adding the amendment.
Garry Fordyce
03:20:25
Withdraw the amended motion and call for the vote one the original motion
Tony Wilkinson
03:20:42
NO SECOND TRY IN JUNE. Whatever we do needs to be done NOW.
Keren Waters-GHNNC
03:21:24
I am with my fellow board member Sid. In support of the original opposition and ask the file be deferred to the Arts, etc committee.
Kay Hartman
03:21:37
I am muted. I accept Len's amendment to my amendment.
Heather S. Michaels
03:22:02
ACCEPT amendment
Bob Gelfand
03:22:06
I would guess that the motion gets sent to the city council subcommittee that oversees NC’s (Arts etc) where we will state our opposition and then explain
Tony Wilkinson
03:22:44
Did we accept the amendment????
Tony Wilkinson
03:26:08
There are 36 people here 9+2+Bob -1 GHN = 11
Miho Murai, HCNNC
03:26:09
HCNNC abstains
ASAAD ALNAJJAR-PRNC
03:26:27
PRNC abstain because we are still discussing this
Miho Murai, HCNNC
03:28:27
HCNNC abstains
ASAAD ALNAJJAR-PRNC
03:28:47
Absatin
Bob Gelfand
03:28:54
Can you print out the motion as passed in chat
David Uebersax
03:29:33
LANCC opposes City Council File Number 21-0407 as an attack on the independence of Neighborhood Councils and their ability to self-govern as defined in the Plan.
Tony Wilkinson
03:29:54
Rachael seems to have scared 2/3 of the participants from voting
Glenn Bailey
03:32:58
Tuesday's 6pm BONC meeting agenda is linked here: https://ens.lacity.org/done/agendas/doneagendas197150156_05042021.pdf
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:34:01
One thing you will always get from me is the truth!
David Uebersax
03:35:01
Rachael...after I vote in CD7, I'll vote for you!
Bob Gelfand
03:35:18
What Len is saying is that Roberts Rules holds as to speaking on topic. It is something everybody should already know.
Bob Gelfand
03:35:51
Agree with Sid that the code of conduct is a waste.
Jennifer Goodie
03:35:54
I’m exhausted from always having to be nice to a stakeholder that just comes to meetings to berate us. The language isn’t offensive, but I’m not built to kill with kindness.
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:36:16
Thank you for your support David U! :~)
Bob Gelfand
03:37:33
A board member should be able to respond to an abusive stakeholder to the extent that you are not violating the Brown Act (ie: by starting a discussion on a forbidden topic)
Glenn Bailey
03:38:24
www.BudgetAdvocates.org is the website
Tony Wilkinson
03:40:18
The Mayor's proposals insert the city into HEALTH which is a COUNTY responsibility. Not sustainable because of lack of a tax base.
Heather S. Michaels
03:41:26
I have a brief announcement in the announcement section, please.
Heather S. Michaels
03:41:33
and then I need to jump over to Congress
Tony Wilkinson
03:41:35
Ditto the Universal Basic Income for only 1,000 families, funded with a one-time gift from the federal government.
Jennifer Goodie
03:42:00
It isn’t even a ubi though
Bob Gelfand
03:42:33
The city likes to have the county pay for big hospitals, but the city isn’t prohibited from doing a little something for health. Some of this includes educating the public.
Tony Wilkinson
03:42:49
Liz, just because it works doesn't mean we can afford it.
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:44:44
I am advocating for creating a main mental health / substance abuse facility un by the city with a number of smaller satellite “clinics.”
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:44:57
oops run by
Heather S. Michaels
03:46:14
Congrats Rachael, wishing you best of luck
Heather S. Michaels
03:46:23
bye everyone, I have our Congress
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:46:31
tinyurl.com/RR4LAyoutube
RachaelRoseForLA.com
03:47:28
RachaelRoseForLA.com I need everyone’s support…if you like what you see please hit the donate button!
ASAAD ALNAJJAR-PRNC
03:47:43
Nice to see you all, have to go to other meeting now
Glenn Bailey
03:48:39
Thanks everyone