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Festival Square Stakeholder Meeting - Shared screen with speaker view
CatWalk Salon
22:37
I can hear, I just don't have a camera on this computer, I couldnnt sign in on my iphone so I will be a listener tonight.
Andrew Malcolm
22:56
great thanks. feel free to use the chat
CatWalk Salon
23:02
Thanks
Andrew Malcolm
37:45
https://www.directpoll.com/v?XDVhEtMTk9H7DpaoOPsRe2NoTvjCv8
Lorien Johansen
46:34
I do think that the materials from 3 Ave S should be continued through this project, but there's a note about using some of those same materials to create banding, which is my preferred option .... a blend of 3 & 4
George Kuhl
51:22
I would like to see some colour in the new street materials,
Lorien Johansen
51:48
how bold do you like your colours? :)
Jillian Bracken
51:52
How about some street murals, George? I was thinking the same thing.
George Kuhl
53:30
I love the idea of street murals. Perhaps something that might be temporary so that different artists have an opportunity to share their art and to be a continuous attraction to the square.
Nick Kuhl
54:06
Andrew/Crystal: do we know if the permanent crosswalks adjacent to this square are going ahead?
Lorien Johansen
54:15
Which may be a good way to incorporate the Indigenous imagery
Jillian Bracken
54:27
http://spacing.ca/toronto/2015/06/12/meslin-dont-road/
Erin Crane
56:30
I love those ideas! We could get SAEA involved and do something that had all languages represented.
Steven Foord
57:39
What about a combination using traditional Blackfoot patterns? Trying to find examples
Jillian Bracken
57:45
Did you consider rain-change concrete? I've seen some cool projects that use it.
Lorien Johansen
58:36
If only they had wind-reactive concrete :)
Devan McNeill
58:49
The use of bold colours on the group is a bit problematic for persons with vision loss and impairments. Perhaps more bold colours above group.
George Kuhl
59:23
I've seen a form of chalk that lasts a few days and gradually fades away to eventually be replaced.
Devan McNeill
01:00:10
*ground, not group
Lorien Johansen
01:05:12
some form of permanent shade provision, even if it's at the N/S ends of the square, is important. I would love to be able to use the square for longer timeframes, but sunburn is a real thing for me
Steven Foord
01:06:43
As a red head, I completely agree with Lorien
Lorien Johansen
01:06:54
Gingers Unite!!
Jillian Bracken
01:07:22
If you are going to install fixed seating, put it in places that don't limit the square's flexibility from a usage/programming standpoint
Jillian Bracken
01:08:58
How about some musical swings https://www.dailytouslesjours.com/en/work/musical-swings
Lorien Johansen
01:09:27
I have to love the large-scale chess
CatWalk Salon
01:10:51
It seems to me that there could be a conflict of events that happen in Galt Gardens. Some of those large scale permanent games might me more fun over there....
Lorien Johansen
01:11:19
That's a great idea! Lawn Bowling and such
George Kuhl
01:11:20
I would like to see both 1 & 2 - I've seen both in operation in other Cities public spaces - agree that some of things might be better in GG
Nick Kuhl
01:11:20
shuffleboard wanted my vote, but i went more flexible
CatWalk Salon
01:11:34
just like if two concerts happen at the same time \
Jillian Bracken
01:11:58
What about a love lock structure - interactive and a great photo destination
Jillian Bracken
01:11:59
https://andreapeacock.com/explore-toronto-distillery-district-love-locks/
CatWalk Salon
01:12:14
ping pong seems useful in that space
Lorien Johansen
01:12:31
I feel like it's a blend of permanent and temporary installations, including some seasonal games. Winter often gets overlooked
Lorien Johansen
01:12:54
Jillian! I love it!
Devan McNeill
01:13:09
are these leisure activities targeting families?
Erin Crane
01:13:38
I like the flexibility and being able to try things to see if they are used before we go permanent.
CatWalk Salon
01:13:43
yes that winter one looks super fun
Steven Foord
01:14:03
Just throwing it out there, Street Hockey tournament, there is a large following utilizing Kinsman Park in winter months
Penny
01:19:20
With the grate option can the movable chairs still be used under the canopy?
Lorien Johansen
01:20:02
There will be other options for planters and additional greenery?
George Kuhl
01:20:53
I think the landscaping should be complimentary to existing and to that on 3rd Ave. There needs to be a balance between permanent and temporary seating. As was mentioned earlier, the issue of loitering has been an irritant to downtown businesses
Devan McNeill
01:21:10
Some persons with disabilities might not be able to move chairs to the shade
Devan McNeill
01:21:51
So having the seating in the shade would be beneficial
George Kuhl
01:21:54
Yes - I agree - activity will be very helpful
George Kuhl
01:25:10
Keeping the space open/flexible is desirable for activating the space with fewer encumbrances.
Erin Crane
01:26:00
Is there any concern about seating so close to the roadway?
Lorien Johansen
01:26:31
That was part of my thoughts Erin
Kevin Deaust
01:26:48
Would like to see trees along the eastern edge. That those trees would be grown when the trees along western edge reach the end of their lifecycle
Lorien Johansen
01:26:53
the large planter boxes from last summer worked well, I thought
Erin Crane
01:28:21
I like the half moon idea and the note on the slide to collaborate with local fabricators!
Devan McNeill
01:28:29
The city lowered the speed limit on 3rd to 40km/hour, is the city looking at lowering the speed limit on 6th street to a safer speed around the seating?
George Kuhl
01:28:45
If decorative lighting is envisioned, tree placement will have to be carefully considered
Devan McNeill
01:29:21
Okay thanks!
Lorien Johansen
01:29:38
lower moveable boxes of plants would still allow for overhead lighting
Nick Kuhl
01:30:30
the divider on the south end of 6 street slows people down, too
Devan McNeill
01:31:16
The 3-way stop signs worked best to slow down traffic too. Instead of traffic lights.
George Kuhl
01:32:10
The parking stall widths are a tad narrow except for the disabled ones
Penny
01:32:50
could the lights be able to be used as Xmas lighting as well?
Steven Foord
01:32:56
Will there be an issue with the raised road/pedestrian space with snow cover like we have now?
Penny
01:33:03
Options for colours?
Nick Kuhl
01:33:21
the string across the street option looks great
Devan McNeill
01:35:45
Agree! The string lights look great
Jillian Bracken
01:35:52
I agree, Nick - and I love the lit up "Festival Square" banner sign that welcomes you to the space
Steven Foord
01:36:08
Also love the string lights
Lorien Johansen
01:36:49
and will the bollards have some aesthetic element? not just sticks
George Kuhl
01:37:39
Adequate power is essential.
Steven Foord
01:38:13
Agreed 100%
Jillian Bracken
01:38:17
How about an outdoor piano
Jillian Bracken
01:38:19
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/outdoor-piano-project-launched-in-edmonton-1.2631220
Michael Boh
01:38:27
What if the stage had supports to add Pop Art when not being used as a stage...
Michael Boh
01:38:40
Sorry meant Pop-Up Art...LOL
Steven Foord
01:39:11
Might already be a piano on the way around the corner Jillian!
Lorien Johansen
01:39:15
My only note for the stage is that I love the look of option 1, but just being aware of a solid, no slate/holes, in the top
Jillian Bracken
01:39:27
I heard there were two pianos coming, Steve!!!
Nick Kuhl
01:39:41
can we build a tunnel to the new owl?! Steven would be on board
Steven Foord
01:39:55
The Burrowing Owl
Lorien Johansen
01:40:08
Amazing!
Jillian Bracken
01:41:07
I agree, Lorien - love the under-stage lighting
George Kuhl
01:42:54
Has there been any consultation with performers who might use the space as far mas their requirements?
Steven Foord
01:43:08
I think if permanent is the way to go, it can change on a dime
Scott W
01:43:09
#1 could have potential for stage lighting, PA equipment etc?
Steven Foord
01:43:18
I can help with that!
Devan McNeill
01:43:54
Has washrooms come up in the discussion yet? If a group were to rent this space, would washrooms be available to rent out too? Say, at Galt Gardens? Or is there a plan to have washrooms available for bookings? (sorry if this has been discussed before)
Jillian Bracken
01:44:15
Andrew loves talking about washrooms
Lorien Johansen
01:44:20
LOL
Devan McNeill
01:45:08
Are they accessible?
Lorien Johansen
01:45:17
yes Devan
Devan McNeill
01:45:29
Great, thanks!
Nick Kuhl
01:46:26
for previous events like Oktoberfest and the soccer viewings, the organizers had rentable bathroom units there
Lorien Johansen
01:46:43
which is always a possibility
Devan McNeill
01:47:00
Where were they placed Nick?
Lorien Johansen
01:47:16
I feel like a seasonal, May > October, shade structure is semi-perm enough
Tulene
01:47:21
However the BRZ can help with storage, we will.
Steven Foord
01:47:22
You can potentially talk to me about storage later
Nick Kuhl
01:47:26
i believe if i recall correctly, sort of the north end of the space
Nick Kuhl
01:47:36
to Devan
Devan McNeill
01:48:04
Thanks Nick
George Kuhl
01:48:54
This type of thing is very common in City squares in lots of places
Michael Boh
01:49:32
I like the idea of a large vertical FESTIVAL SQUARE sign on one side of the corner.
Lorien Johansen
01:50:19
it's much easier to make it bigger in the future, rather than waiting for a massive overwhelming entrance
George Kuhl
01:50:25
Some of the more elaborate ideas/designs should be applied to Galt Gardens when that project happens.
Lorien Johansen
01:50:38
i agree George
Michael Boh
01:50:52
On the West end
Nick Kuhl
01:51:46
i really like the look of it as shown.
Scott W
01:53:41
Are those deep service upgrades extending further down 6 St?
Lorien Johansen
01:54:10
the spring option, so we can maximise the good weather usage with the new design
Nick Kuhl
01:54:24
spring for sure
Steven Foord
01:54:29
This spring and summer is very important to Telegraph, patio will be vital for them
George Kuhl
01:54:32
I would favour a spring start so that it can be used over the summer.
Lorien Johansen
01:54:40
Canada Day Grand Opening
Steven Foord
01:54:41
I would think
Penny
01:54:50
If spring doesn't work - what will happen in summer to square?
Tulene
01:54:59
July 7 is the first downtown farmer's market...July is ideal.
George Kuhl
01:56:16
Consultation with Ram and others is essential.
Jillian Bracken
01:56:39
This project is very exciting. Looking forward to this and feeling optimistic that we will once again, hopefully soon, be able to gather together for community events and activities!
Tulene
01:56:39
we could create a parklet for the telegraph during construction as a plan b for lost patio space
George Kuhl
01:56:54
Thanks for the opportunity to participate.
Lorien Johansen
01:57:03
Andrew, you're going to send out the recording link?
Erin Crane
01:57:10
Thanks everyone!
Penny
01:57:15
It all looks fantastic!
Nick Kuhl
01:57:21
thanks Andrew, Crystal and Stantec! Great comments from the group, also
Kendal Hachkowski
01:57:33
Thanks Andrew and crew, excited to see it!
Steven Foord
01:57:33
Thanks all! Looking forward to it all coming together