'Voices for Badgers' Badger Culling and vaccination: where is the 2020 “Next Steps” policy trying to take us? - Shared screen with speaker view
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Good presentation. Where next? What are the options to change policy?
Brilliant Mark thank you
Yes, a lot of politics.
its really a badger eradication scheme
It seems to me that the science and stats behind the whole culling 'study' is cr*p. For example, you do not alter more than one variable at a time to determine cause and effect...
At least 1.7 million cattle movement in the UK every year. No wonder bTB is spreading. Biosecurity is the key
absolutely. Well said. Good ideas
well said nigel
Gov policy won't change so concentrate on speaking directly with the farmers - well said Nigel
Yes, speak to farmers and to the public … yes change the hearts and minds, and value badgers / wildlife .. the voters change politician's politics
Do other badger trusts speak to farmers or is it just Nigel?
Here in Essex it’s frightening to think that cattle are brought in from all over the place and may bring disease with them potentially infecting our wildlife. There seem to be so many little herds popping up all over the place.
The majority of the public are already anti-cull. Directly contacting farmers and trying to get vets to come out as anti-cull may be the way forward. Something has to change as the current situation is stagnant.
Does the govt factor in the fact that culling its main inadequacies aside, for the most part increases badger movement in terms of the existing badgers in the clan.. they end up roaming further exacerbating the problem if they do indeed have btb also intermingling with different badger populations they wouldn’t normally mingle with and increases risk of different diseases.
I'm seeing two different Dominic Dyers..??
Nigel such great ideas
GB a land of animal lovers? Really?
Excellent panel Chris and good to see Nigel Tolley
The economic impact assessment is an interesting Ian, the Treasury guides on economic analysis is to use the Green Book … which has to include other aspects such as social and environmental impacts. Eradicating a key natural species for the ecosystem must have a big negative impact on that ecosystem.
Two-headed hydra, very good image.Poor Geronimo :(
Corruption as usual
Very very well said Dominic
Who are these people who are pulling all the strings? Are we talking about NFU? Senior Civil Servants?
I think the NFU box well over its actual political power a lot less farmers these days. So have they still the power they claim.
can wen go higher than Defra?
Yes! Destroy the hydra!!
Do we talk to NFU?
The wildlife trust here in Cornwall are doing great work liasing with farmers...
Think talking to NFU been tried.
How can we best use the media to achieve our ends...
The media, and reaching the public, has to be one part of the solution.
I'm terrified Defra/APHA are asking anyone with 5 or more ferrets in a household to register them in connection with the transmission of covid by mustelids is this the next horror !
The Badger cull is old news. We have to have something really big to get attention.
apathy is the biggest threat to animal welfare
could I get a copy of the briefing from mark
It may be old news … but probably old news for the older people …. there is a new generation of younger enlightened people concerned with the environment and wildlife … perhaps we should look at social media …. DEFRA probably have a social media person!
We haven't really touched on cattle vaccination which was supposed to be the solution with the Diva test approved by 2014
Carl I agree
a nice report here on DEFRA social media spend https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/defra-spend-on-social-media
NGOs are not the cavalry young people who care are
There is still a very strong safety issue surrounding the cull especially as it becomes so vast.
While DEfra,s claim that badger culling works is accepted by the media we wont get much attention.
yes Dave. I hear it every day.
I find it disgusting that this cull has been allowed to go on for 9 years..!!
And DUP wants to introduce this to our badgers in NI
you guys are great and I thank you for what you are doing
Should bring pressure to bear on supermarkets too - milk/dairy products from non-cull farms.
A great panel of speakers, I could listen to you all for hours..!
Good point Angela … the supermarkets have a lot of political clout
Thank you. It has the benefit also of highlighting the issue is live to the public.
Good point Dominic
could badgers become extinct in England?
One of the COVID impacts has been people have been engaging with their local environments …. politicians may be more open to consider that the population is likely to be more concerned about decimation of our wild life
So may be a good time to talk to politicians
Addressing speciesism and humansupremacism is an important corner to fight
If there was a real risk of extinction, then the Berne Convention claim would be v likely to succeed as it is predicated on species at risk of extinction. There are fortunately a lot of badgers still.
Badgers only real predators are Humans so little risk of becoming endangered
Although risk of local extinction.
yep local extinction is a real risk!!!
That's what worries me about our badgers in NI if Stormont has their way
Thanks for all the panelists
Yes, amazing work by so many people. Thank you
yes need to reach the younger people … they are ready and very concerned
Thanks to all panellists - excellent webinar - and special thanks to Chris for organising.
Thank you all absolutely fantastic discussion this evening.. can we get a copy of the recording please I missed the beginning
Thanks to all the panellists. Very interesting
thank you all, I look forward to the next
Thanks to all brilliant.
this has been a terrific discussion its been great thank you
Thanks to all panellists - excellent webinar .