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Monitoring the Circle of Life--Recording of Webinar - Shared screen with speaker view
Beth Abels
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
wow would love to see the picture! lovely to hear and see you all :-) floods here in parts of Europe
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
met some at the Oxford real farming conference on you tube too https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgidjvH_QvTzZqsJa7sOr_Q
Cindee Klement USA
how long is this session?
Wendy Beye MT, USA
Firsthand experience, living on the land
Jay Byer Canada
Anna Forsmark Sweden
mainly facts reported by others
Anna Forsmark Sweden
reading non-fiction literature
all 3
Helga Wilkendorf, Santiago CHILE
Philip Bogdonoff, USA
Observation - the soil table experiment with simulated rain.
Annette Smith
Manvendra Singh Inaniya(India)
a combination - forest drinking up the excess water in rain and then releasing it later to make more rains
Donna Williams USA
Observing rotting apples, eaten by earthworms and the castings and the round balls of castings under the trees
Cody Spencer - Alberta, Canada
Living on the land, moving livestock daily and looking at past and present monitoring data
Blain Hjertaas Canada
1 Observing land after a major rain event
Caitlin Adair Vermont, US
Learning from Walter Jehne at Lake Morey about 5 years ago, combined with my own lifelong observations of nature.
Nancy Singham USA
combination facts combined with first hand experience
Wendy Goodman MA USA
I learn best first from Observation then with facts to explain what I am seeing: flooding in Haiti and watching the top soil dump into the sea, changing the sea water and the mountain soil
Ry Thompson (WI, USA)
i prefer coming into a situation with some understanding, often informed by facts and beliefs by others, then really instilling that with real life experience.
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
living in the very degraded and de-forested coastal wet tropics in far north queensland in Australia seeing the thriving and the dead side by side both on land, in and under the sea - amazing and heart breaking all at the same time seeing with own eyes
Fred Yen MA USA
combo including group learning
Gene Bergeron - Quebec -CAN
At 8 y.o., observing clouds dissolving in the sky and dew evaporating under sunrays in the morning... from leaves surface... and also dripping through the ground.
Lisa Ripperton
watching over a period of days the water in one of our newly constructed swale being absorbed into the soil and wicking into land on berm above
Steve Whitney
combination - fixing problem at home with stormwater
Linda Gibbs-CA USA
When my garden began to create it’s own cycling of small water cycle. I would wake every morning to dew on the ground when it was dry next door. Or the empty lot next door. It really came home when the Santa Ana were blowing and dew was still present in the morning. I learn best with both facts and experience
Helge Vittersø Norway
combination, though living in a humid country Norway, it,s not so present?, but i have read Judiths Schwartz books and listened to Allan S.
Kyle Hildebrandt, United States
combination of observations of Karst topography of SE Minnesota & recently completing coursework for my Wildlife biology degree
Dita Vizoso, UK
I guess I first intuted it by observation, and years later validated my feelings with scientific measurements and new models. I saw the soil become degraded and deeply mess about with the water cycle... I've played around with water cycles in a very small scale, too.
John Wilson - Zimbabwe
observation e.g two different settings impacted by cyclone Idai in 2019
Puja Batra - USA / Kumeyaay land
Formal explanation with graphical explanations, followed by in-field real life observations and measurements.
Tom Walther USA
I learn best with both experiential observation and hearing others beliefs and understanding. With both, but especially with watching or direct observation, I experience both a picture in my mind and feel the textures, colors, smells and gestures in my body.
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
Christine jones talks lots of soil carbon at depth this year's www.nots.ie biofarm (some on youtube)
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
other people's observations can be historical too?? or inter-generational?? esp. changes over time??
Gene Bergeron - Quebec -CAN
I have a small coolective garden project located in a fallowland for years next to a parish cemetery. It's a provoledge to start that on an untouched soil for decades. I consider that plot as an experimental site out a naturalized pioece of land. Q: How can i find out similar experiments in the Soilhealth.app ?
Dale Hendricks USA
Peter and Didi- have either of you gotten anywhere re: adoption of regenerative principles with Conservancies/lands protected for hiking/habitat??
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
Issue to of water being taken out of the system too esp by industry, mining, agricultural opperations and
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
AND need for pollution buffers both on and under the ground or vegetation growing from the soil and living in the soil - micro and mega fauna and their capacity to 'buffer' pollution?? impact too of nitrox oxide and other air based pollution into the water system as well??
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
sorry I hope this makes sense
Hugo Orenga - Germany
We are currently running a project on a pasture land where we try to restrain more of the water which falls on it. We are using key lines design and trying to make a combination with agroforestry, pasture, fruits plantage, using dams and pounds, … My question would be pretty praticable : how could I easily mesure the improvement (or not) of the water cycle and the carbon in soil ? We would like to monitor all of that, without being scientific specialists
Linda Gibbs-CA USA
There are these deep gullies between the properties where I live. They are steep in most places and difficult to navigate so most people gate them off and ignore them. Because of fire rules and the use of pesticides and fertilizers that run off to them from the homes on the way to the ocean. These areas have become more and more eroded and desertified. For instance locals tell me in the 50’s and 60’s the children ran through them, there are still telephone pole bridges that exist that helped them navigate crossing the waters. The California costal commission use to consider this area ESHA - environmental sensitive habitat. This designation made all kinds of rules to prohibit homeowners from developing on it. They no longer consider it ESHA. But after the Woolsey Fire my area has come back so beautifully and I’m wondering what the restoration of my area can have on the rest of the properties, if only am example of what is possible.
TECH Didi Pershouse
Invitation: to describe a project, and think of a few questions you would interested to explore within those project boundaries.
Claryce Evans U. S. Massachusetts
I think there was a question about garden projects. We have one in suburbs around Boston. claryce.evans@gmail.com
Puja Batra - USA / Kumeyaay land
My local question(s): 1) How can we measure fire risk reduction as it relates to good soil-water management? 2) (How) can soil-water management optimize fire risk reduction for a larger region in a way that can be viewed as a compensable “service” to those doing the management?
Dita Vizoso, UK
"Soil transformation over time as rewilding happens." Two sites in Devon, around two different small-river basins. One is based on Regenerative Agriculture sensu Allan Savory.I'd attempt to measure, at least:water retention / runoff in soil - in different weather (preferably synchronised)soil carbon contentsoil sponginesssoil life (diversity and pop sizes)plant health and growthecosystem change (e.g. species composition dynamics)
Puja Batra - USA / Kumeyaay land
Oops - I meant “…compensable “service” BY those doing the management?"
Wendy Beye MT, USA
Given Peter's statement that the oceans of the world release carbon into the atmosphere at a much greater rate than carbon sequestration projects on land can capture, is there any value in carbon exchange programs?
Cindee Klement USA
how small is too small? I am starting a very small project that is transforming a sculpture garden in the heart of Houstons museum district to be a catalyst for change in the city of Houston. I am hoping to inspire the citizens in the 600 sq. acres of the greater houston area to turn their yards into soil sponges and support urban wildlife. Is the soil health app a tool that will help me?
Dita Vizoso, UK
To me, Wendy, it has a lot of value, since many of the measures will enhance soil health, and thus influence water cycles and other crucial aspects of the biosphere crisis.
chikkana gowdara
we are working on 1000 hectare watershed project. watershed Area slope 3% & no much variation in vegetarian, soil type. how much sample points to be considered for monitoring soil carbon sequestration project? Any improved soil carbon measurements technique? other than physical soil lab test?
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
and too Wendy, hopefully healthier soils with less or ideally no run off into the oceans, they will be less destroyed and therefore able function as they do when healthy - taking in carbon through algae, kelp.... and what we yet to even know yet..... healthy soil = healthy oceans that sequester carbon once again
Wendy Beye MT, USA
I agree with you, Dita. It's difficult for rangeland managers to access carbon exchange programs. I know of only one rancher in Montana who has been able to receive some small carbon exchange payments.
jonny allen - USA
We’ve restored a highly disturbed bit of forgotten land in Hollywood where people walk a lot. I have heard so much feed back from neighbors on the increase of plants, flowers, animal, and insect traffic.
Philip Bogdonoff, USA
Cindee, you may be interested in this project we are working on in Montgomery County, Maryland (near Washington DC) - https://climateyogi.org/rewild-montgomery
Dita Vizoso, UK
Wendy, hopefully the improvement of soil will quickly become the reward that the farmers actually need... instead of carbon credits and such.
Linda Gibbs-CA USA
There are a number of us on this zoom who get together regularly but at so many different places. No framework, perhaps this could focus us.
Wendy Beye MT, USA
Yes, but monitoring generally costs dollars that are difficult for ranchers to find...
Wendy Beye MT, USA
RMG in Montana is trying to identify and teach methods that ranchers can implement to help with the cost.
Dale Hendricks USA
The power of visiting/walking a project/property undergoing regeneration is powerful. is there a way to for example see who in the network is in our area (SE Penna, Mid-Atlantic US) is open for visits- to show others??
Ry Thompson (WI, USA)
what have you found are the most important metrics for monitoring in rangelands that help with quick feedback loops for ranchers, but also informing the larger scientific community - e.g. essential elements of a monitoring program? How do you determine precisely where to sample on a large ranch?
Fred Yen MA USA
We are about to have a public launch next week in the middle of suburbia north of Boston of linking home gardeners, whether food or pollinators, with a foundation on soil health. Aim to create wildlife corridors and community of food gardeners. Would be interested to see , with help how this changes our environment.
Mahaboob Basha
Types of methodologies to improve soil carbon and how can we sell carbon credits?
Christina Allday-Bondy US
Perhaps keying off the 5 soil health principles would be a good place to start with observations?
Li Fan, Maine, US
Are there any instructions on how to measure the site? Does it require specific tools?
Jay Byer Canada
We've been doing some biological and mineral soil testing on regenerative soil projects, one of which is following up on Peter's work up here from five years ago...still waiting for some results but what we have seen so far is very interesting
Puja Batra - USA / Kumeyaay land
A local question of relevance in southern calif: How can we measure fire risk reduction as it relates to good soil-water management? Are there existing ways to tie actual local scale management practices with fire risk models from academics and/or fire control agencies?
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
Ry Thompson I wonder if people in the app could give advice??
Wendy Goodman MA USA
thank you all...I'm leaving to watch the inauguration
Christina Allday-Bondy US
It leads to more questions!
Dita Vizoso, UK
I feel that the questions that are motivating the measurements are probably crucial for deciding what we measure, and where. Are there any discussion-hubs for brainstorming? Sometimes local brains are not yet in resonance... Is that one of the aims of the app?
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
good luck Fred and Philip and everyone working on community projects!
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
Jay Byer - how are you doing the mineral soil testing?? or what are you testing for?? sorry hope not too big or broad a question
Toolie Anderback SWEDEN
Really appreciate that sharing Didi, thank you!
Christina Allday-Bondy US
Oaths have begun!
Claryce Evans U. S. Massachusetts
Maybe we could think about four levels of learning -
TECH Didi Pershouse
TECH Didi Pershouse
Valerie Smith
I learned a lot from hands-on watershed restoration projects, berm construction, and teaching classes (ironically).
Gene Bergeron - Quebec -CAN
Common base of observations collecting and also similar language and methodology among same types of participants to Soilhealth.ap would be very useful for collective learning and enhancig learning Societies. Participative science and common knowledge is somethin to be! That is a en enthousiasmic challenge!
Dale Hendricks USA
Hugs and best, thanks!!
Philip Bogdonoff, USA
Didi and Vijay event: https://wgbh.zoom.us/webinar/register/9316098564294/WN_Kg-pIckMSpSdEgeD8zSGRQ
Philip Bogdonoff, USA
Tomorrow's event is jointly hosted by Biodiversity for a Livable Climate and GBH Forum Network - https://bio4climate.org/
Blain Hjertaas Canada
Thank you Peter and Didi
TECH Didi Pershouse
jonny allen - USA
Thank you Didi and Peter. Englightening!
William Houstoun, Scotland
Thank you Didi and Peter
Maria Ehrnstrom
Peter, about your last question: In my interviews with regen practicioners I have found that people are inspired by others' stories (and maybe 'facts') but they learn together with the land (your 'observations' - i think it involves many more layers than observations though) . Thanks for this!!!
Claire Lyons-Dublin,Ireland,horticulture student she/her
thanks so much!! good luck with all your amazing projects
Kristen Efurd Osgood USA
Thank you!
Wendy Beye MT, USA
Thanks, everyone!
Christine Martin
Thank you Peter and Didi!
Trisch Doenges
Thank you!!!
Anna Forsmark Sweden
Thank you!
Hugo Orenga - Germany
thanks everyone, have a nice day !
Dita Vizoso, UK
Thank you, this has been inspiring and beautiful.
Puja Batra - USA / Kumeyaay land
Thank you Peter and Didi! Wonderful, informative, exciting … got the wheels turning!
Pam Walker USA
Thank you Peter and Didi!!
Toolie Anderback SWEDEN
Thanks a bunch! :D
Camilla Landvik, Sweden
Thanks for great sharings and insights
Paul Brubaker, Indiana, USA
Thank you, Didi and Peter!
John Steven Bianucci
Thank you, Didi and Peter