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AERO Conference June 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Su Verri
17:43
whova is fantastic, Worth it!
Heidi Souza
23:18
Hi, Taryn, Jerry, Peter, Deb, Bruno, Rita and everyone!-- Heidi Souza
Taryn Helper
23:55
Hey Heidi and everyone!! :) So excited to be here!!
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
26:39
Hi Heidi! and everyone! So nice to be here!
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
30:44
phisically? or mentally?
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
30:44
xD
Roy Karp
30:48
young at heart
Lexi Zucker
31:03
I'm 29 :)
Liz Campbell
31:14
Mahi?
Chris Liu
31:27
I'm 24 :D
MAHI
31:32
im 20
Cian
31:39
Is Selva here?
Glacier Lake School
31:46
I am 23
Cian
31:48
I think she’s 18…
deborourke
32:39
Hi Heidi! So nice to see you! I still listen to your piano CD and think of you!
MAHI
32:49
selva is 17
Liz Campbell
34:02
Now there’s a young one :)
Roy Karp
38:04
build a wind turbine or solar array!!
Liz Campbell
38:13
Where are your international students from?
Peter Berg
38:26
Good idea roy
Ian Wilder LIHS he/him
38:48
maybe me..
Ian Wilder LIHS he/him
39:03
And if you count my father-in-law, I am a legacy
Roy Karp
39:16
Alternative Energy for Alt Ed!!
deborourke
40:54
No cell phones in those days, right Derry?
Highland School
43:35
Our international students are from Europe and Asia, but we would love students from other places too!
Monica Brase
43:46
My mic is not working. I am Monica Brase, and I teach science in an alternative program in Windsor, CT.
Erin
46:11
Our internet is lagging from a big storm in the night. I am in Canada and I teach Teacher Ed at the University of Calgary and I teach graduate studies for practicing teachers and principals at Queen’s University.
Adam Harris
47:05
Mic isn't working. Adam San Antonio, Texas. Teach at a public school.
Dee Hoyano
48:17
A parent from Victoria, Bc
Je'anna Clements
48:59
Je'anna from Riverstone Village in South Africa, we did School starters! Highly recommended
Alicia Richard
49:15
Alicia Richard, Seattle, WA. Just finished M. Ed. Long time connection to Sudbury schools as founder and parent, but last kid graduated in 2019. Looking to re-start podcast Liberating Kids from Europe when I move there this fall.
Dileepa Manawadu
49:18
Some how my video is not working. Dileepa/ Sri Lanka Kinder Republic - Co founder
Peter Berg
49:25
Just want to say Hi to everyone that just came in
Marina Gadioli Lenzi Mari
51:30
Hi everyone, I’m from Brazil (Wish School São Paulo - a holistic education school), but I’m currently in Toronto, doing my M.Ed. at OISE. :)
Tim Chen
52:27
Greetings to you all. This is Tim from Taiwan. It's less than an hour to midnight. I have a workshop on Sunday call University without Professors. I will be talking about my experience setting up a digital university with heutagogy philosophy. Look forward to e-meeting you all.
Gerry Kirk
52:49
@Karina name of my podcast is Modern Education Movement - https://moderneducationmovement.com
Taryn Helper
52:55
Please excuse me dropping in and out- I'm in hospital with my son so if a doc or nurse walks in or if he needs me I have to drop off :)
Peter Berg
53:15
It’s a great podcast. Highly recommended
deborourke
53:40
All the best to your son, Taryn.
Ian Wilder LIHS he/him
53:42
Glad to have some of your time Taryn! Good wishes for your son.
Peter Berg
54:20
Taryn if he can when we have a break time have him jump in and we will send him well wishes from all over the world
Gayle Hanlon
54:40
Oh @taryn, you’re. Awesome. Glad to see you here… you’re topping the list! I’m no where near catching you.
Derry HANNAM
55:27
Best wishes for best outcomes Taryn
Ian Wilder LIHS he/him
55:28
I agree with Jerry that a lot of people might not send students back....An awesome outcome!
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
55:35
All the best to you and your son Taryn!
Gayle Hanlon
55:52
Here in Niagara they have boosted the numbers simply to make it seem like more people are sending their kids to back to school hoping they’ll feel inferior or missing out if they don’t!
Taryn Helper
56:09
Thank you everyone :) Modern Education Movement Podcast is excellent! Definitely worth checking it out!!!
Derry HANNAM
56:21
Research just published in UK shows many kids read harder books to greater depth when NOT in school!!
Erin
56:29
It amazes me the statistics for work at home. I don’t know anyone who has the work at home option after July 1 / Sept 1 depending on the province where they work.
Ian Wilder LIHS he/him
56:47
Gayle...very interesting. Love when the façade slips and you see what the beaurocracy is up to.
Liza Loop
57:12
Hi. Liza here. I’m working on an online platform to support independent learners. We are just beginning to build an introductory website: https://learningquest.us. Please visit (but be aware that it is unfinished). Let me know if you would like a pop-up session here at AERO Conference to talk about LearningQuest and its internal AI, KEPLAIR.
Dileepa Manawadu
57:16
@Derry would you be able to share this research? This would be very useful.
Taryn Helper
57:22
Thank you @PeterBerg- I'll check with him and if he's in the mood he'll jump on. #
Peter Berg
57:40
He can just listen
Derry HANNAM
57:54
Yes I'm looking for the link now!!
Ian Wilder LIHS he/him
59:26
If you want to check if a school in America cares about democracy...see if they teach students how to petition to get themselves on the ballot for office. The crux of being a participant in a democracy is not just the right to VOTE, it is the right to run for office! (PS - why don't public schools teach petitioning? Students could jump onto the school board!!!)
Cian
59:33
the hand raise option is good?
Gerry Kirk
59:38
or use the "Ask a question" option :)
Liza Loop
59:41
Yeah, Jerry. Very well said.
Erin
59:48
All of the pandemic learners that I worked with this past year are going back to school this Fall.
Derry HANNAM
01:01:00
@Dileepa - here is a link to the research - more than 1 million kids. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2021/apr/29/children-read-longer-more-challenging-books-in-lockdown
Selva Lorenz
01:01:11
Agree with Heidi
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
01:02:43
And things are also different in different countries (for example here in Finland we got the schools closed only for a short time)
Dileepa Manawadu
01:04:20
@Derry thank you so much. This is wonderful for all the worried parents over here (learning loss panic!)
Erin
01:04:23
@Bruno - Yes, in my Canadian province, we were only closed around 3 weeks in 2020.
MAHI
01:06:25
my 16 yo sister walked out of the school during covid
Gerry Kirk
01:07:26
There are some innovate schools online as well - my son Graham attends https://galileoxp.com
Taryn Helper
01:09:00
What an unbelievable story Jerry!
Karina Tewarie
01:09:16
WOW.. unreal!
Liza Loop
01:09:30
I have a nit-pick about our vocabulary. There’s no such thing as ‘remote learning’. Learning always takes place within the individual or group. There is a huge effort to do ‘remote teaching’ or ‘distance teaching’. The discussion is very different if we keep the difference between teaching and learning clear.
Cian
01:10:15
Funny enough, I have a problem with “virtual learning” for much the same reason.
Karen Golden
01:10:24
wowJerry! Amazing!
Cian
01:10:25
Like, no it’s supposed to be *actual* learning! LOL
Alicia Richard
01:10:30
Nice distinction Liza.
Stephanie Sewell
01:10:34
@Liza and Cian. Yes, that is so true.
Je'anna Clements
01:10:37
Hear hear! Great points Liza and Cian
Gayle Hanlon
01:10:42
Very true @liza
deborourke
01:14:53
Gerry I missed the link to your podcast
Cian
01:15:30
That's super neat, Tim! I wonder if we will soon collectively question the ultimate goal of education, which may lead us to re-evaluate our methods.
Liza Loop
01:16:08
Does anyone remember the book, “No More Public School”? My sons were born in 1971 and ’73 so they grew up knowing that they had a choice between attending school or staying home, monitored by me. They always choose to go to school. Some kids thrive in teacher-centered classrooms so we need to keep them as viable alternatives.
Dileepa Manawadu
01:16:12
Awesome @Tim. Look forward to know more in your session.
Cian
01:16:34
Parent fear is a big deal.
Cian
01:17:00
They are worried for their kids. I get that.
Stephanie Sewell
01:17:43
Yes re parents. And, I see a very similar fear with a lot of kids as well.
Gerry Kirk
01:17:56
We need a lot more visibility as to what is out there... too much under the radar
John Gundayao
01:18:06
The rat race of education at work
Stephanie Sewell
01:18:25
Yes, and showing what happens to these non-conventional school kids when they grow up! this is really helpful, I find.
Selva Lorenz
01:18:33
If kids choose to go back to the system, they will make it, no matter how many school years they “lost”
Cian
01:18:34
Agreed, Gerry. We do need to educate parents.
Liza Loop
01:18:52
Not only fear, Karen. Some parents aren’t willing to accept their democratic responsibility to raise their own kids.
Cian
01:19:00
*fear mongering*
Liz Campbell
01:19:15
@ Gerry—-yes! People don’t know what they don’t know. We need a philanthropist to donate a million dollars so we can do a media bliz…maybe a go fund me?
Dileepa Manawadu
01:19:31
Yes. Parents is the biggest issue here in Sri Lanka.
Karina Tewarie
01:19:33
@Liza, I agree, this is huge… laziness and complaciancy
Cian
01:19:47
It’s more like “curriculum loss”.
Karen Golden
01:19:48
yes Liza! So
Liz Campbell
01:19:51
@ Liza, yes, some see school as simply a babysitting service—even for their teens.
Je'anna Clements
01:20:33
Yes Cian, exactly! If AERO puts out a statement about the difference between Learning Loss and Curriculum loss
Gayle Hanlon
01:20:39
There is no such thing as learning loss when you stop comparing students! Strength base approach.
Karen Golden
01:21:15
yes Liza, people are are afraid to take on the responsibility because it is so ingrained that other people know more about education.
Peter Berg
01:21:19
Agreed Gayle
Gerry Kirk
01:21:22
Lots of great stories on my podcast that can help worried parents - Naomi Fisher's is excellent (and she's presenting later) - https://podcasts.bcast.fm/e/1n24y05n
Stephanie Sewell
01:21:35
I would be willing to sign a statement like that. It would be a useful tool in supporting people to make conscious, intentional decisions going forward, for sure.
Marina Gadioli Lenzi Mari
01:21:56
Also, we need to look at all of the things everyone did learn with the pandemic. I don’t really think there was loss in any thing. We all learned a lot!
Stephanie Sewell
01:21:57
@Gerry. Thanks for sharing that link. I will be sharing your podcast around with the families I support!
Liza Loop
01:22:01
Lots of ‘teaching loss’. Not much ‘learning loss’. What get’s lost is our recognition of what is being learned through non-school activities. Sadly, we often forget how much learning occurs through observation, not intentional teaching by elders to youngers.
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
01:22:02
And I find it also interesting that they connect the idea of "learning" with being physically in a conventional classroom...
Cian
01:22:53
People conflate learning with school.
Liz Campbell
01:23:15
@Liza, yes observation and the removal of tests and grades, the ability to play and explore without coercion…
Liza Loop
01:23:21
I’d love to have all of you as guest bloggers on https://openeducativesystems.wordpress.com
Karen Golden
01:23:24
parents also want a break from their kids. it is not considered “not
Karen Golden
01:23:49
normal to be with older kids all day.
Cian
01:24:22
Yes Karen. People often complain about summer being too much time with their kids at home!
Dileepa Manawadu
01:24:33
Oh also another factor I forgot to mention - is that for many working parents - school is day care. A place for kids to be away from them :-( This is heart breaking.
Gayle Hanlon
01:24:38
That’s one of the reason my focus is on helping empower parents to regain the self confidence from the undermining and conditioning that harm families
Dileepa Manawadu
01:25:02
Our oldest Chamber of Commerce, in fact issued a communique to the government saying schools should start - so parents can focus on work!
Cian
01:25:12
As a homeschool mom this was so odd to me. Not to judge. Our cultural history has kept children apart from adults.
Stephanie Sewell
01:25:44
@karen - yes, it is important to help people see that "home"schooling is not necessarily anything to do with "home"! I often use the term self-directed learning as a way to consciously steer people's mindset to recognize that kids and teens don't have to stay home!
Su Verri
01:25:58
I agree @Cian
Tim Chen
01:26:39
@Cian, @Dileepa Thanks for the encouragement. Please join my workshop on Sunday.
Peter Berg
01:26:40
Good point John
Stephanie Sewell
01:27:01
@Cian What I found with my own son was that there was a combination - some years he way home a lot, others not so much. It was flexible, according to his needs and opportunities that were available.
Stephanie Sewell
01:27:13
*was
Liza Loop
01:27:50
We acknowledging the need for community childcare, not more academic, teacher-centered instruction.
Cian
01:28:15
I think that the option is what matters most. To be where one needs/wants to be vs. being “stuck” in a classroom.
Rita Bouchard
01:29:01
Thanks for mentioning opportunity and access Derry!
Guilhem LS
01:29:36
Thank you, Derry, that's an important topic to mention
Monica Brase
01:32:18
@Peter. For us, some of our students missed the support at school because things are tough at home. We are their "safe space," which allows them to grow emotionally but also allows them to access learning because some of their safety and emotional needs are met.
John Gundayao
01:32:33
hand from earlier
asmith
01:33:27
@Monica. Agreed. Many are not aware that not every single home environment is a safe place for kids.
Liza Loop
01:33:34
@Peter. Great point. In the ‘Open Educative Systems” approach we separate and optimize each of the community functions that we currently lump together as “school”. See https://openeducativesystems.wordpress.com
mark finnern
01:33:58
For whom is it after midnight?
mark finnern
01:34:04
I salute you!
Peter Berg
01:34:26
It’s after midnight for Tim
Taryn Helper
01:34:37
Taiwan i think
Kathyann
01:34:41
More than home being "safe." I hear kids expressing school is a place their parents don't judge and control their interactions.
Liza Loop
01:34:47
Hooray Jerry. Keep up the good work!
Tim Chen
01:34:55
Yes. It's midnight now
Karen Golden
01:35:20
Agreed Stephanie!
Tim Chen
01:35:23
Anyone can point me to AERO Discord server, please ?
Dileepa Manawadu
01:36:11
I and my partner in crime would be discussing fear and its connection with power in a session on 27 June here. Would be awesome if many of you can join us.
mark finnern
01:37:09
@Tim Discord Server link: https://discord.com/invite/rUbzKfCq
Chris Liu
01:37:13
@Tim https://discord.gg/GzW7zxPb
Erin
01:37:20
I wonder if bimonthly newsletters would be better. More widely read.
Peter Berg
01:37:23
Here it is Tim
Peter Berg
01:37:24
https://discord.gg/GzW7zxPb
John Gundayao
01:37:32
invite expired
Bruno Gioia Sandler (he/his)
01:37:47
have to go now, I'll be back a bit later. So nice to see everyone in here. And thanks Peter, Jerry and the rest of organizers. So pleased to be here!
Chris Liu
01:37:48
The link Peter sent works!
Al M
01:38:00
Jerry can turn up his volume a little bit to be equal to the other speakers — it would help — thanks
Tim Chen
01:38:14
I am in. Thanks
Stephanie Sewell
01:39:15
would you feel comfortable putting the whova invitation code here? Trying to find it...
Taryn Helper
01:39:17
There's a Yaacov Mintz here- any relation to Jerry? :)
Taryn Helper
01:39:41
And there's a Peter Berg and a Peter Bergson :)
Al M
01:40:02
how to get Whova?
Wynberg, Hartley
01:40:15
Anyone from Toronto / Ontario (Canada)?
Yaakov Mintz
01:40:35
We emailed about and tried to figure it out. It seems that Jerry is an "imposter" Mintz - his family name was changed...
John Gundayao
01:40:40
what is going on in whova?
Peter Berg
01:40:56
Here is the link to Ken’s session https://zoom.us/j/3982358841
Ken Danford
01:41:18
I read all the newsletters!
Karen Golden
01:41:26
what a great session. it is so wonderful to be with like minded people!