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Elaine R Cohen
18:25
If you intend to sign up for sessions given by the Hartman Institute Summer Program, do it ASAP. Some are already filled!
A Ginsburg
20:06
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Frona Kahn
23:11
incredible
Randi Brenowitz
23:27
waltzing with bashir is a difficult but important movie. see it if you haven’t
Mona Fishbane
24:56
Rachel, you are one in a million. Your generosity of spirit shows in so many ways!
Varda Farber
25:41
No way Rachel do you appear biased. You have created balance in your presentations!
Lawrence Kaplan
26:28
I think it is clear that Rachel has left wing sympathies, but she sets them to the side to present the different voices. That is what a teacher should try to do, but too often don't.
Heather Silverman
27:58
The story reminds me of Savyon LIebrecht’s short story “Room on the Roof”. Also very powerful and disturbing
Elaine Moise
27:58
that sounds great!
Lynn Levine
28:15
Yes, I would love that format
Mona Fishbane
28:16
I love the August ‘book club’ idea! Count me in!
Heather Silverman
28:29
I agree!!
Frona Kahn
28:39
I’m in
Rhea Dorn
29:08
I am in for this class
Wendy Liebow
29:32
I’m in too!
Lilian Stern
30:02
me too (Lilian Stern)!
Barbara White
30:30
I’m in too, Barbara White
Leonie Kramer
31:11
I just read “House on Endless Waters,” Emuna Elon’s book. It is an amazing work.
ehpressmang@gmail.com
31:27
I too am interested in to look in-depth
Ruth Hilliard
31:44
i’m in.
Randi Brenowitz
32:12
but send email as I think once the session is over she doesn’t see the chat
Lawrence Kaplan
39:30
She is not called Palestinian woman, but Arab woman.
Judith Usiskin
40:06
yes i noticed that hmmn
Judith Usiskin
41:12
and how do you know a smile is mocking
Erica Sokoloff
41:17
Wonder what the Hebrew says
Lawrence Kaplan
41:23
Now they are identified as Moslem
roy and leora
41:26
Emunah Eilon is the 2nd daughter of Pinchas Peli, z”l, who was a fascinating and lovely Orthodox rabbi and thinker (see entry in Wikipedia). The PElis lied in NY in the early 1960’s, where Emunah heads in my sister’s elementary school class and her oder sister, Bitkha (who is Orthodox and teaches talmud at Hebrew Union College in J-m) was in my class. Clearly a family that was very enlightened, believed in klal Yisrael and Pinchas Peli was also involved with interfaith activities.
roy and leora
42:03
Sorry—Emunah was in my sister’s class (not ‘heads’)
Debby Weinstein
42:57
I can so relate to the first time I had household help at 24 yrs old!!
Terri
43:16
I think many of us ‘prepare’ for our cleaners!
Lawrence Kaplan
43:24
Peli was close to both Rabbis Joseph Soloveitchik and Abraham Joshua Heschel.
stanleykay
43:34
I think many of us can relate to preparing
Jon Tepper in Tucson
43:53
sure...one always has to arrange and put stuff away befor the cleaning crew arrives!
Alice Webber
44:09
This is one reason I have never had household help
Sharon Glueck
44:22
this is a universal cleaning girl thing
DEBRA GLAZER
44:56
Normal universal situation. You do need to put things away so that surfaces can be reached and cleaned.
Mj Levison
45:08
when I was a child my mother did the same before the cleaner came
Deborah
45:13
Preparing for the first time my cleaning team came to my home after the lockdown was quite stressful, let alone having them come in even with masks and gloves!
jeremy aron
45:37
why a ‘lady’?
Erica Sokoloff
45:42
Why wash floors first?
Alice Webber
45:59
normal---but Ronit is doing it with a vengeance!
Deborah
46:22
I agree with Erica - - washing the floors first makes no sense!
stanleykay
46:22
We don’t want to be embarrassed by how meny we are!
stanleykay
46:32
Messy
Jon Tepper in Tucson
48:27
I recall my mother's appellations: the maid, cleaning girl, and even, I'm embarrassed to say, the schvartze
terrytaffer
49:13
did hagar have a noble birth? where was that written?
terrytaffer
49:33
Hagar
Lawrence Kaplan
49:39
It's found in a midrash.
Linda Klein & Bernie Horn Framingham
49:59
In midrash Hagar is an Egyptian priness
Elaine Moise
51:10
this is so amazingly exaggerated -- it seems that Ronit is feeling totally guilty about having this woman as household help.
Kitty Hoffman
52:25
is anyone else bothered by the depiction of Ibtasim?
Elaine Moise
52:58
yes
Kitty Hoffman
53:22
It seems to me that Amos Oz investigated some of these ‘projections’ with a great deal more subtlety very early in his writing life
Alice Webber
53:33
we're seeing Ibtisam through Ronit's eyes... I don't know the story so don't know where we'll come down
Randi Brenowitz
53:43
I had a cleaning person since 1975 but when I got married my husband never had household help and he was the one cleaning before she came and feeling uncomfortable having someone working while he was on computer. he’s learned in the past 34 years but it took time
Erica Sokoloff
53:45
Not really. I had a cleaning woman who could have been the model for her character.
Heather Silverman
53:47
Have you read the Svyon liebrecht story?
Barbara Green
54:34
Which story? "Apples From the Desert" is a favorite of mine.
Heather Silverman
55:05
From the collection called Apples in the Desert. The story is Room on the Roof
Mona Fishbane
55:52
Appreciated!!
Michael Kaftor
57:27
In fact, many of the PLO ran to Israel .. rather than being killed by the Jordanian millitary.
Lawrence Kaplan
01:02:46
I was there at the time and participated. in the demonstration.
terrytaffer
01:06:49
why did Jordan expel the Palestinians?
Lawrence Kaplan
01:07:06
1970
terrytaffer
01:07:45
WHY?
Alice Webber
01:07:46
what is RPG?
Mj Levison
01:08:18
rocket propelled grenade
Mitch Slomiak
01:08:27
The King feared a coup and was facing perhaps a comparable demographic challenge to that of Israel under certain scenarios.
Alice Webber
01:08:32
thanks!
Paul Fraylich
01:08:32
rocket propelled grenade
Lynnie Mirvis
01:09:24
Black September—
Lawrence Kaplan
01:11:32
'It's hard to keep tabs.." suddenly shifts perspective to that of refuges.
Jon Tepper in Tucson
01:11:36
the last part reminds me of how the passengers on the SS St. Louis, at see for a month in June, 1939, were seen by Cuba, the US, and most other countries. cousins of mine were aboard
Mitch Slomiak
01:11:50
Me as well, Jon. It’s such a reply sad imagr
Jon Tepper in Tucson
01:12:20
darn autocorrect: should be 'at sea'
Linda Klein & Bernie Horn Framingham
01:12:32
It's finally the voice of Nazis towards Jews (think of the lice)
Kitty Hoffman
01:12:42
I think that aimless sailing is intended to evoke the jews…also the Exodus…
Kitty Hoffman
01:13:20
the ship The Exodus
Suzanne Levin
01:13:49
my son refers to Sharon was a war criminal.
Michael Kaftor
01:14:46
The title should read, "One doesn't kill a baby twice"
gerald hollander
01:16:05
Were any psychological studies done on the soldiers involved in this?
Michael Kaftor
01:16:12
Sharon won his case of liable in NYC against Time magazine .. he's not a war criminal
Lynnie Mirvis
01:16:34
these were the Lebanese Christian soldiers
Michael Kaftor
01:18:26
Lebanese militia fighters taking revenge for killing their Christian president
Michael Kaftor
01:19:45
See the Israeli movie, Dancing with Bashir .. the Israelis intervened in the morning and stopped the killing
Kitty Hoffman
01:23:14
We are rendered silent. This is very had to read…
Sue Melmed
01:24:24
a wonderful film
A Ginsburg
01:24:48
The King of Jordan now fears an insurrection from the Syrian refugees.
Mj Levison
01:26:48
good morning Vietnam name was movie
gerald hollander
01:27:17
painful
Kitty Hoffman
01:27:31
Yes, this music is very American-style…
Lynnie Mirvis
01:27:51
is Lebanon Israel’s Viet Nam
Randi Brenowitz
01:27:52
the whole movie is painful. but brilliant and important
Frona Kahn
01:29:15
Heart hurts
Mj Levison
01:29:26
starring robin williams
Mj Levison
01:30:02
yes
Kitty Hoffman
01:30:56
Israeli pop cuture still alludes to Lebanon — eg When Heroes Fly
Linda Klein & Bernie Horn Framingham
01:31:16
It's a great movie.
Mj Levison
01:33:09
manor is featured in Yussie Klein ha levy’s like dreamer
robertakalmanson
01:35:01
no picture!!
Jon Tepper in Tucson
01:36:16
it's only audio with black screen.
Varda Farber
01:36:26
So let's listen to this beautiful song.
jeremy aron
01:36:30
just listen. don’t need a picture to appreciate it!
Jon Tepper in Tucson
01:36:48
you can see progress bar at bottom, which is in the video
Ayala Weinberg
01:36:48
who is this
Joan Florsheim
01:37:01
she is aware of that
A Ginsburg
01:37:19
Was the song ever set to different music?
Karin Adelman
01:37:29
Corinne Elal
Frona Kahn
01:38:40
Thank you for your brilliant teaching, extensive historical and cultural contextual learning and especially your generous spirt. With deepest thanks.
Varda Farber
01:39:04
Amen!
Randi Brenowitz
01:39:24
I’m taking from others but I could not resist a few with Rachel
Heather Silverman
01:39:48
It’s Rachel’s generosity and respectful interaction with her students that is so special. Her broad grasp of all the elements that Frona mentions is masterful. What a highlight of the past months. Today rabbi!!!
Steven Broder
01:39:55
Amen Amen! See you in August Rachel.
Erica Sokoloff
01:39:57
What Frona so beautiful said:). Todah!
Harriet Wolpoff
01:39:59
Rachel--you have been my anchor. L'hitraot l'Hartman!
Heather Silverman
01:40:02
Today rajah - not today rabbi
Mona Fishbane
01:40:07
Rachel, you are such a blessing! You have sustained so many of us in these dark and frightening times.
Frona Kahn
01:40:09
and thank you for building community. a gift.
Elisheva Edelson
01:40:23
Thank you so much!
Sarah Schachter
01:40:37
Thank you SO much Rachel. This has been so amazing. See you in August!
Ayala Weinberg
01:40:45
Todah
Rochelle's iPhone
01:40:47
Rachel- you are wonderful. I look forward to August
Ayala Weinberg
01:40:52
has been so special
Frona Kahn
01:40:59
amen ve amen
Alice Webber
01:41:04
Thank you Rachel! Such a fine opportunity. Looking forward to August
Ayala Weinberg
01:41:12
look forward to August much Hatzlachah
Judith Usiskin
01:41:13
bless you all and many thanks Rachel
Suzanne Levin
01:41:15
Rachel is an Israeli national treasure!
Rochelle B. Rabeeya
01:41:20
Rav Todot, Rache!. from Rochelle Rabeeya
Joan Borkow
01:41:33
Thanks to all. Thanks to Stuart for bringing to words to life. shabbat shalom
Rosemary Linsider
01:41:41
Thank you so much for such wonderful classes. Shabbat Shalom!
Rosalind Barland
01:41:48
Your lectures have sustained me during this dark period.
Harriet Wolpoff
01:41:48
Stuart--hope yuo'
Jon Tepper in Tucson
01:41:50
thx so much for ALL these sessions! what a tour de force! Shabbat Shalom.
Barbara
01:41:51
Thank you for these sessions-so special!!
htigay
01:42:00
I would love to participate in classes that look at individual poems in depth. Thanks for everything!
Mj Levison
01:42:02
thank you
Harriet Wolpoff
01:42:03
Stuart--hope you'll be back in August!
miraberkowitz
01:42:25
הצטרפתי רק השבוע. מאד מאד נהינתי. מאד אשמח להשתתף בפגישות בעתיד! תודה, תודה רבה!!!
Michal
01:42:26
Today Rabat! I love Dalia Ravikivitz’s poetry.
Aviva Lev-Ari
01:43:21
Enjoyed and learned a lot, I am i the US since 9/1978 - so Lebanon war II I was not in Israel, Aviva Lev-Ari
Paul Corwin
01:43:53
Was the last song “positive”? I thought it was hopeful...This is our country, it’s the only country that we have, and we have the challenge to make it the best it can be...
Michal
01:44:34
Of course it is positive! It is positive to criticize the country you love!
Marilyn
01:45:43
Thank you Rachel for all your classes. It has been a privilege to study with you over the past four months. Sincerely,
Marilyn
01:46:00
Marilyn Bernstein, Newton, Massachusetts
Paul Corwin
01:48:28
Hopeful and comforting are
Paul Corwin
01:49:44
hopeful and comforting are better descriptions (to me) than positive...I think. we all agree. thank you, Rachel, for sharing this and to all for your comments to give “color”
Elisabeth Shapiro’s iPad
01:54:20
sorry I must go now to volunteer tutor on zoom....wishing everyone well. Rachel, thank you for the bringing us such beauty, and your inspired teaching and meaning over these covid months. The time, skill and devotion you put into preparing and presenting were beyond generous. with deepest appreciation from Minneapolis.
Varda Farber
01:54:48
Sing it for all of us Joyce
Mitch Slomiak
01:55:12
Rachel, I need to leave at this point. Thank you so very much for each these sessions. I look forward to resuming in August. Shabbat Shalom.
Lynnie Mirvis
01:58:56
Thank yo so much—
Kitty Hoffman
02:01:06
I have to leave now. I want to thank you for this extraordinary past four months. Thank you for your big heart and soul, and your deep teaching. It has been a great privilege and pleasure. I’ll be in touch, and l’hitraot!
stanleykay
02:05:15
Any idea how to choose among the way too many Hartmann classes!!!! Any suggestions re favorite speakers (besides Micha G who is sat out Temple a lot
stanleykay
02:05:19
thanks
Violet
02:06:13
I said the same thing about Donald Trump and I am still in the US.
Varda Farber
02:07:34
I too must leave and thank you and my fellow students from the bottom of my heart. להתראות
stanleykay
02:07:46
Well for how much longer? I am truly glad I will not live for another 30 years. My first intoro to politics was Adlai Stephenson, Eleanor Roosevelt, JFK, sigh
jeremy aron
02:09:04
RPG - rocket propelled grenade
Geula Hebron
02:09:40
Todah Rabbah
Lawrence Kaplan
02:17:33
I have to leave now. Wonderful classes.[
jeremy aron
02:21:10
Have to go. Many thanks.
miraberkowitz
02:23:48
I am interested in the in-depth classes. miraberkowitz@gmail.com
miraberkowitz
02:24:03
Thank you!!!
Joyce & Michael Bohnen
02:28:48
I have to go. Many thanks for such stimulating classes, conversation and most of all, helping us dig deeply into the songs and the poetry. I look forward to continuing.Shabbat Shalom.
stanleykay
02:32:41
I had this same discussion with our Rabbi years ago- letting kids go to College with out being educated re anti-Semitism and other views!