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Israeli poetry - Shared screen with speaker view
Ed Grossman
27:12
Link to recording of first Ivrit Kalah class (to sample or review): https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/play/XEcBBx9d8xS-pVKxlHaU0mrXoYJmQOvpTDwnCQDFbcL64ObbC1HX6wK7Bpa7F4ZmmEoXSvKzCX0qtaFD.67MjYwKCP0poOyWY?continueMode=true&_x_zm_rtaid=puBBb7qYTsS0eM2mImCr0A.1622569991024.9c7c970aac78d2d33ce96f01c73f49b6&_x_zm_rhtaid=195
diane allan
33:24
was that nstatice?
Marcia Falk
34:27
What is the wildflower site that tells you what is blooming today in Israel?
diane allan
36:55
so wonderful to hear the words clearly —lovely artful music!
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
36:59
So beautiful!
Erit Gillman
37:07
Super
Joan Borkow
37:13
Wonderful music.
Erica & Saige
37:20
Lovely
Claudia Librett
37:29
Beautiful thank you!
Sarah Schachter
37:35
Thank you David!
Barbara Goldberg
37:40
so tender.
Gail Levine-Fried,Ph.D
37:41
So poignantly sung;the singing and guitar complemented the poetry-Gail
Michal Tamuz
37:57
Today Rabah! your singing brought the poem to life!
gila appleby
38:05
What wonderful singing!
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
45:04
What is The Tzuuta?
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
45:41
The Hebrew name on the upper right
GLORIA BLUMENTHAL
45:49
tsvata is a chain of night clubs.
Rebecca Landes
46:24
Tsavta means "together"
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
46:38
odah Rabe
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
46:46
Todah
Mark Elber
47:04
I glanced and was harmed comes from the Talmudic story of the four who entered the Pardes (of esoteric knowledge)
Heather Silverman
48:05
Another word would be ‘pierced’
V Dorosz
50:47
she was ‘struck’ ?
Cynthia Whitehead
52:15
singed? pierced/struck seem too brutal for what she is trying to say
Heather Silverman
52:45
But there’s no idea of burning in the word
V Dorosz
53:34
lit. wounded
Cynthia Whitehead
57:08
when an angel touches you, it can burn
sharonheim@hotmail.com
57:10
Like the Torah verses starting with “and”
Mark Elber
57:37
there's also a great deal of the use of "and" in the Torah
Cynthia Whitehead
58:01
and the ecstatic poet Christopher Smart
Mark Elber
59:00
the sea turns blue from the sun illuminating its color
stanleykay
59:30
Water lillies like Monet’s famous paintings?
Gail Lipsitz
01:01:02
First line reminds me of Hallel: the hills skipped like lambs
Heather Silverman
01:01:23
That’s right!
Alice Webber (she/her)
01:03:40
song of songs: hair like goats streaming down mount Gil'ad
Mj Levison
01:08:10
Higayon is logic
Barbara Goldberg
01:08:14
“muse” is pretty terrible in English…
Deborah Hollenberg
01:08:33
From Deborah: River lilies are crimson and semi perennial. Is there any meaning in that? We think of lilies as white.
Cynthia Whitehead
01:10:38
Should “muse” be the past participle mused, to be consistent with the direct, natural language of the poem?
Heather Silverman
01:11:07
I thought so. There was a problem with that word
Ed Grossman
01:14:21
Also the more so metaphysically, viz., the "Rock"--selah..
diane allan
01:17:32
Simon and Garfunkel “I am a rock, I am an island”
Rebecca Landes
01:22:11
The poem sounds like the ebb and flow of the sea, and a crashing wave at the end
Ed Grossman
01:22:37
In some ways like Amichai's "Open Closed Open"..
Heather Silverman
01:24:58
How cleverly and sensitively he plays with the sounds of the language to add emotion
Linda Cedarbaum
01:25:17
Yes very true!
Elizabeth Pressman
01:25:41
The sound of the music mimics the waves and the differences between gentle and stronger lapping of waves.
diane allan
01:25:42
David has been pierced like Leah, in a way.
Denah S. Bookstein
01:25:54
Beautifully said, Heather. He sings like a poet.
Myrna Offen
01:26:06
Beautiful David. Very sensitively presented.
Dr. Dorothy Greenbaum
01:26:10
very sensitive!!
Elisheva Edelson
01:27:00
Beautiful interpretation!
Alice Webber (she/her)
01:27:08
that was so beautiful, as though the poem pulled the music into itself rather than was "set to music"
Barbara Braverman
01:27:37
emotion of the poem enhanced by mussic
Linda Cedarbaum
01:27:45
Beautiful singing. Beautiful performance. So emotional and heartfult
Gail Lipsitz
01:27:51
Why the image of a wound in the rock?
Gail Levine-Fried,Ph.D
01:28:36
the reference to "cracks in the stones" reminded me ofsomething Leonard Cohen wrote that it's the cracks that allow 'the Light' to come in-Gail Levine
Barbara Goldberg
01:36:02
why did they make her no lament?
Howard/Elaine Hoffman
01:41:20
Haray at mekuddeshet LI ... nine words he said.
Ed Grossman
01:42:50
The cracking of a rock (a relationship...)?
rena panush
01:42:59
Howard, that is a wonderful observation
Denah S. Bookstein
01:46:09
David, please share your music/contact information. I look forward to hearing much more of your artistry.
Barbara Julius
01:46:16
Just beautiful.
Linda Cedarbaum
01:46:45
Gorgeous
Gail Levine-Fried,Ph.D
01:46:59
So soulful-Todah Raba-Gail
carole
01:47:03
are these your own melodies?
edna janco
01:47:05
how superbly sensitive. Thank you David, a huge Bravo!
gila appleby
01:47:07
Loved it!
carole
01:47:09
wonderful
diane allan
01:47:14
Could that have been the abandoned husband who had injured his wife???
Miriam Seelig
01:47:39
Very nice!
Mj Levison
01:48:26
Isn’t עדנה also the menstrual blood. She died in childbirth, usually due to blood loss in childbirth?
David Yzhaki
01:48:51
Thank you so much for you appreciation and support. I'm touched.duduyzhaki@gmail.com
David Yzhaki
01:50:08
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6g40SRPIRvAwVx3noMLroR?si=-Ff8K6-6Saqbz41_DaAjqw
carole
01:50:42
did musician write these melodies for poems?
David Yzhaki
01:51:20
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Ed Grossman
01:52:44
Rocks...responds to fragility...and a response to "Pride"
David Yzhaki
01:52:51
The first song is vomposed by the amazing Yehudit Ravitz.The second song pride was composed by me.And the third song by Shem tov Levi.
Denah S. Bookstein
01:54:26
Experienced ?
David Yzhaki
01:55:01
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9_A9MNbYiOFCMVtOF6CEUw
gila appleby
01:57:21
I’d be very interested in a session on translation too!
Ed Grossman
01:58:20
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Sarah Elpern
01:58:50
my version of Zoom doesn't have that option.
A Ginsburg
01:59:09
Would like to join discussion on translation as well.
efrocks
02:01:01
Me too, would like to join discussion on translation as well.
Sharon Heim
02:03:50
She said “ship” not sheep
A Ginsburg
02:04:20
"green' sheep could also be young, immature
Ed Grossman
02:05:03
Did Dalia have any poems that are "happy" or funny, ironic, etc., and not so introspective.
Deborah Hollenberg
02:05:49
From Deborah: I agree about the sea and lamb-woods. Lamb like woods, skittering down the slopes like lambs.
Shirley C.
02:10:16
Skittering is an excellent translation.
edna janco
02:11:06
not to forget about hair....also "se'ar golesh".
Lynn/Leah Golberstein
02:11:42
This was fabulous. Thank you so much. I’m sorry to leave but need to sign off before the end of class.
Mark Elber
02:20:21
I keep raising my hand, I'm afraid you can't see me.
gila appleby
02:22:23
I read it as the rock was cracked and when the seal rubbed against it, it moved and the crack was revealed. By this warm touch that was more specific or intimate than the seaweed and the sea.
Deborah Hollenberg
02:22:29
From Deborah: Her lack of expressing her feelings for many years was the rock. She was the rock.
Alice Webber (she/her)
02:22:57
timely!
Ed Grossman
02:27:13
Dalia (as a rock) had a crack there all the time...even if she seemed solid & calm from the outside.. the question then is what was the "little seal" that rubbed against her...
Deborah Hollenberg
02:28:33
Perhaps some kind of warmth, feeling, reminding her of her father
Chana (Ann Ellen) Dickte
02:29:06
Rav todot, Rachel.
gila appleby
02:32:12
Yes, warmth evoking longing, which unfulfilled is a wound. The loss of a beloved (I assume) father which led to her world breaking.
Ed Grossman
02:34:34
Marcia Falk had a question about where the Israeli wildflower website is...
Marcia Falk
02:34:41
Zelda has many such pseudo-references.
Ed Grossman
02:40:35
Interested in translation, but sometimes the poet intends ambiguity...
gila appleby
02:41:36
Thank you so much Rachel!