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i am here Grant, hoping Simon Walter will be on call in a few minutes and Wayde Hazelton will try and call in
Thankyou Sharon great to see you online.
where is the hands up function
* Access to residents of Pym? Were they considered?
and where is the reactions icon please?
Nic, did you give any thought to need for and location of public toilets?
Victora St B resident here, traffic from Bathurst towards Mine and upper Millthorpe route for option one where does the traffic have to enter Park Street?
Roundabout at the main intersection….what a wonderful idea, well done!
Blake street will become very busy in option 1 - how will this narrow street be managed with busy two way traffic and a high crest at the top of Blake leading on to busy main road - Park Street
If Victoria Street becomes one way, what happens to the traffic that wants to go the other way?
Agreed - one way on Victoria would be problematic and send vehicles up Blake.
What happens to the bluestone kerbs in the case of the construction of street parklets?
A couple of notes in the earlier research suggested things were quiet during the week. Perhaps it should be noted that since covid, things have been much more busy on week days
from and access point of view, the angle parking is an improvement - how can we be sure the footpaths be accessible to all? Option 3 looks less universally accessible
Roundabout idea would be good if there was the room for trucks to continue through on the main road, I think Victoria Street has to be two way, Pym St could definitely be one way , then allows for residents and deliveries.
100% agree with Rosemary
accessible parking spaces?
Rosemary’s comment sums up my feelings too. Victoria as one way is not practical at all but Pym could be with little negative impact. Round-a-bout is a good idea.
Not concept one, too much mine traffic now! Would need to be via Glenorie for access to Millthorpe Road , definitely not Blake Street.
So you will have to upgrade Glenorie Road, it is not up to heavy traffic?
Bluestone needs to be made safe because it’s too high
Glenorie could do with a footpath. It’s a nice walk around the back of the village but there’s only a grassed verge which can be very muddy.
Is there room for a roundabout at Park and Victoria? before it is even considered, semi trailers, bypass if anything happens on Mitchell Highway
Detailed designs also would include end of trip attractors etc
How do we maintain the existing village character? While I'm keen on green space does this fundamentally change the character of the street? Do we want this? Is the fact that the village street is less polished part of its charm? As much as I would enjoy it, is green space appropriate for a working class village streetscape?
Concept option 2 would be my preference. I do think public toilets should be apart of the plan. Its a long way between the Railway Station and Redmond Oval
sorry no ability to speak!
Could road traffic going to the mines from Vittoria Road be diverted to Glenorie Road ?
round a bout? how can large trucks negotiate what seems to be a small intersection?
Part of the charm of Millthorpe is the organic nature of the streetscape incluing rambling plants etc. I understand the need for a more accessible approach, but is there a way to balance ‘designed’ nature to ensure character remains?
I’ve come in late to the party, but from what we can see, Option 1 is not a viable option. Victoria Street would not work as a one way street. A roundabout on Park Street will not cope with semi-trailers.
Remembering Park St is rated for B-doubles.
In our 11th century village in England, the roundabout was only a metre wide .. no need for a huge roundabout.
can we please go ahead on the screen to Concept 2
it would be good to include a water bottle refilling station in the new plan - which ever one
Apart from vehicular access on the proposed roundabout, the roundabout design would need to accommodate/improve pedestrian access. Pedestrian moment around this intersection is currently unsafe.
If we are potentially going to put more traffic on Glenorie Road, the project may need to consider the intersection of Forest Reefs Road and Glenorie Road.
I'd just like to reflect on the roundabout at Bathurst that currently takes the same traffic we are proposing at the Millthorpe roundabout.
yes thank you
My vote is for option 3. two way access on Victoria St and pedestrian zone for Pym St with limited vehicular access for deliveries and residents.
The Park street redevelopment over 20 years ago raised the road significantly and ended with the still unsatisfactory fencing alongside Rosebank. Sight lines were compromised before Millthorpe got busy now it’s still dangerous, imagine a b double tipping over on roundabout option
Is there option of not doing any of this? If Millthorpe isn’t broken, why are we looking at spending presumably a huge amount of ratepayers’ money to do this? What budget are we looking at? And what exactly are we trying to fix? What are these options actually trying to achieve? My apologies if I’ve missed this being addressed already.
Possible consideration could be given to the increase use of the Council leased car parked area at the Railway .promote the park and walk concept. Close Pym Street off to a mall on weekends say from 9 am to 4pm. Make the area adjacent to the Railway Hotel accessible parking at the bottom of Pym Street. Only make Pym Street one way. The majority of mine traffic is outside peak tourism traffic .
the Bathurst intersection has traffic turning right or left, this one in Millthorpe most heavy traffic would be going straight through
Dare I ask, but were traffic lights considered as an alternative for the intersection of Park and Victoria street.
Millthorpe has its own character developed over 150 years. Any change needs to be subtle and a gentle hand of value adding and not erasing what is already here.
I agree Rachel, the centre of the village is beautiful just as it is
Agree with Russell - strongly.
The Regis mine EIS noted the increase in trucks from east and the north. A round a bout will increase breaking noise
In response to Rosemary, I disagree, the traffic at the Millthorpe intersection can be quite congested at times.
It is beautiful as it is but not accessible to all
what is the process from now on, how do we send further comments?
Nick - can you please elaborate on what you mean by ‘pedestrian flow issues’? I don’t think I’ve ever been run off the footpath by another pedestrian.
Is there a way of redirecting the traffic from the new Glenorie development so that access to Victoria St, under the railway, s limited/not allowed. The road is already in disrepair, and busy with mine traffic. More traffic onto Victoria Street is not ideal, as this road already has heavy pedestrian traffic.
The flyer mentions identifying funding opportunities to progress designs and actions. what are these and will council committee to allocating rate money from millthorpe residents to realise these future plans?
I like not having footpaths. I would however like dedicated pedestrian access as distinct from vehicular zones. I appreciate the idea of using street / verge planting to divide pedestrian and vehicular zones.
For transparency, surely this documentation should be available for download on the BSC website?
Concept 2 with a further push to direct traffic along Glenorie Road to and from the mine and development to the west. Pym St one way still ensures the access for users and residents, provides accessibility spaces and less traffic. Pushing traffic on to Park St/Millthorpe Road would not make much difference to the already busy road. Park and walk is a good idea.
If Millthorpe ever turns into a tourist mecca or a Wentorth Falls I am out of here!
its drink o’clock
Russell it started an hour ago!
Unfortunately I need to drop off, it was lovely listening to all and thank you again for inviting transport to join you. I look forward to seeing an amazing plan
Thanks Grant, you done a great job