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AERO Conference June 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Ellen Cool
12:23:41
Stereotyping by others
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:23:43
All too often treated like adults
Erin
12:23:53
Stereotypes!
Stephanie Sewell
12:23:54
racially targeted
Susan M
12:24:13
Misinformed expectations
Al M
12:24:41
In trad school they are told to sit down & shut up—like all the other kids BUT B&B kids are admirably less tolerant of being told that
Rita Bouchard
12:24:53
Lack of opportunity to explore or learn their authentic selves.
Al M
12:24:54
traditional
deborourke
12:24:57
Yes Ellen Erin Steph,
Shana Frank
12:24:57
Is the problem with the boys OR the way they are perceived and treated?!
Al M
12:26:35
In traditional schools they are told to sit down & shut up—like all the other kids BUT B&B kids are admirably less tolerant of being told that
Stephanie Sewell
12:29:38
that the youth owns their own learning
Dee H
12:29:47
To be able to make your life you want
Kathyann
12:29:52
becoming your vision of yourself
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
12:29:55
Happiness and confidence
Stephanie Sewell
12:29:56
that you understand that you have options
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:29:58
Finding happiness
Peter Berg
12:30:01
Know yourself well
Ellen Cool
12:30:04
Pursue your interests
deborourke
12:30:06
“The ability to work joyfully and live positively” Neill
Learning Without Borders
12:30:11
Change maker in your own life
Rita Bouchard
12:30:11
success is self directed life and continued exploration through life
Jerry Mintz
12:30:14
Enjoying what you do in life
Liza Loop
12:30:19
Ability to self-direct with high self-esteem
peterbergson
12:30:34
Ability to meet your own needs: for safety and security, autonomy, sense of competence, relatedness, and fun.
Al M
12:33:06
“Enjoying…” I’m with you Uncle Jerry!
Al M
12:33:38
U 2 Liza
Al M
12:36:00
drought
Stephanie Sewell
12:36:00
no water
deborourke
12:36:01
dry
Dee H
12:36:05
dying plants
Rita Bouchard
12:36:06
plants are not thriving
Kathyann
12:36:07
crop doesn't fit the field
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:36:18
No water source
Dee H
12:36:36
uncle brother
Stephanie Sewell
12:36:40
Uncle Brother
Al M
12:36:41
Uncle bro
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:36:44
Uncle Brother
Rita Bouchard
12:36:47
the farmer
Liza Loop
12:37:00
It’s commons problem that impacts the land manager.
Al M
12:37:14
her
Learning Without Borders
12:37:15
parents
Stephanie Sewell
12:37:16
The child
Shana Frank
12:37:22
We all do.
Kathyann
12:37:23
child
Stephanie Sewell
12:37:24
with support of those around:)
deborourke
12:37:28
community
Dee H
12:37:29
The child and parent
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:37:36
The child, but at what age?
peterbergson
12:37:38
Parent
Liza Loop
12:38:31
Where is the community in this diagram?
deborourke
12:39:29
child
peterbergson
12:39:30
As Atul Gawanda showed in “Being Mortal”, for the elderly often the physician or the retirement center controls the health of the senior.
Kathyann
12:39:30
learner
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:39:30
The child
Rita Bouchard
12:39:30
children need the opportunity to own their learning
Stephanie Sewell
12:39:31
child
Ellen Cool
12:39:35
Presently society
Al M
12:39:38
Kid should—government does
Dee H
12:39:42
parent and child
Liza Loop
12:40:25
The school claims to be a proxy for the broader community.
Peter Berg
12:41:05
Exactly !
Liza Loop
12:42:08
Really insightful hypothesis, IMHO.
Kathyann
12:42:40
parent owned picture of what adult needs
Learning Without Borders
12:42:42
Kids need advocates and some need more than others
Learning Without Borders
12:43:27
what are your thoughts about advocates vs ownership?
Dee H
12:43:43
In the absence of parents who are able to fight for their kids, where do you find the elders? I know some think this is school teachers.
Susan M
12:43:44
Is it a black problem? An economic problem? Kids thinking they have options?
Susan M
12:44:20
… Thinking they have few options.
Liza Loop
12:45:11
What actions do you advise us privilged white folks to take?
Al M
12:45:38
What do you think Matt?—> humans are born as problem solving machines by evolution—not being able to exercise this problem solving machine makes it atrophy
Erin
12:46:36
Teachers are definitely not advocates.
deborourke
12:47:33
I think you are articulating why many parents of children of color don’t entrust their children to democratic educators. The kids can’t do it alone.
Kathyann
12:48:17
What are realistic roles to utilize the unique skills of urban experience?
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:48:40
Our society is still deeply rooted in racism. How do you handle agency, autonomy, and mission when the system is rooted in suspicion regarding Black and Brown boys?
peterbergson
12:49:04
What about John Taylor Gatto’s successes as a classroom teacher? Admittedly, he is an outlier—very few teachers like him, probably. However, there are others—athletic coaches, ministers, uncles, employers—who fulfill the role of mentoring young boys into becoming the kind of thinkers that you are wishing for.
Liza Loop
12:50:58
OK. Will do!
Liza Loop
12:51:06
Write the check, that is.
Dee H
12:53:12
How to help young men find their mission? Does it have to follow the autonomy and agency first?
Rita Bouchard
12:53:42
Agency
peterbergson
12:53:55
I suggest you distinguish between Helping and Rescuing. Rescuing is when you treat the “owner” as a victim and do more than your share of the work. Helping means supporting their efforts, offering them more options than they are aware of (“We don’t know what we don’t know”, and that’s true for all of us). Still, they have to haul the ashes/do the work.
deborourke
12:54:33
Democratic educators and those who advocate self-directed education often fail to articulate how we support students.
Wendy Raver (she/her)
12:55:15
I think you just answered my question - learning how to navigate over time and problem solve.
Liza Loop
12:58:59
@Matt. There’s no donate button on your website and no street address. If you really want checks, please make it easier.
Susan M
13:00:15
You can't negotiate unless you're willing to walk away.
Dee H
13:00:25
What problems would you see a young boy solving outside of his family? Parents suggest them?
peterbergson
13:00:27
Re: your response to Wendy regarding acknowledging that we live in a racist society, I’ve always liked Robert Fritz’s mantra re: the creative process: “You’ve got to learn to love reality.”
Liza Loop
13:01:48
This ability to negotiate with the school is what the privileged families have and use to support their kids.
Penny Camps
13:02:38
Re giving parents money to enable / allow their decision making.What about the perception that we black people can’t responsibly manage money ?…
Stephanie Sewell
13:04:26
this is great - I'm all for taking the time we need:)
Wendy Raver (she/her)
13:04:45
Agree!
Erin
13:05:06
Have you thought about getting your ideas out to Teacher Education programs to give our teachers tools and strategies?
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
13:06:00
Thank you so much MattThis was great!! I wish I could learn and share more
Peter Berg
13:07:22
Is there ever an exception to teachers not helping ?
Al M
13:07:23
The slide of your family said “home learner AND attended public school—did you homeschool or unschool your kids?
Al M
13:09:39
“…They just care if their child gets into Harvard” yep, exactly right in most cases
Claudia H
13:10:01
Matt, can you please give some insights in applying your insight for girls. I am from Mexico and have faced a lot of interference from folks with privilege in our homeschooling journey, believing that my children are "at risk" of honoring our culture.
Kathyann
13:11:06
Have you found access to students who see the problem teachers need for change?
Liza Loop
13:11:38
And the schools tell us that they are just trying to provide what the parents demand…
Al M
13:11:45
“System failure” = right on!
Wendy Raver (she/her)
13:12:29
Keynote next year?? Please??
Susan M
13:12:32
We're glad you're hear too. Thank you. :)
Susan M
13:12:44
… ugh. here. Not hear.
Dee H
13:13:42
Are you coaching other men to be you for boys in their communities?
Rita Bouchard
13:13:45
Thank you for being here! This is insightful!
Dee H
13:13:50
THank you!
Learning Without Borders
13:14:05
Thanks! Appreciate your insights!