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Belonging in the Workplace: A Conversation With An All-Autistic Panel of Professionals - Shared screen with speaker view
Stephanie Ranno
21:19
So excited to be here to listen and learn from this panel!
Marcelle Ciampi
21:24
Hello everyone! Thanks so much for being here, today! From Olympia, WA, USA. Where are you tuning in from?
Jeanne Corsick
21:38
Yay! Mt. View, CA :0)
Marcelle Ciampi
21:41
David is from TX our host
Kourosh Safavi
21:43
Dallas, TX
Stephanie Ranno
21:46
From Baltimore, MD.
Amy Root
21:46
Oklahoma!
Marci Shaffer
21:54
Boston, MA
Alicia Harrison
21:57
Sacramento CA
Stephanie Ranno
21:59
HI Amy!
Amy Root
22:19
Hi Stephanie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So good to see you here.
Lyric Holmans
22:21
Yay for captions
THOMAS ILAND
22:31
THOMAS ILAND from Santa Clarita, CA
Katharine Descamps
22:34
Howdy from Houston, TX
Lyric Holmans
22:35
Wohoo!!!
Karen Streeby
22:43
Gig Harbor, WA here. Hi everyone!
Magnus Hedemark
22:52
Hey fam! Very happy to be here.
Michael Kranz
22:58
Brooklyn, NY… looking forward to the panel
Autumn VanKirk
23:14
Hey y'all, I'm from Humble, a suburb of Houston, TX!
Debbie Ruff
23:25
Hi, Here from Orange County, CA
Else Kramer
23:37
Hello from Holland!
Amy Root
23:40
Hey Magnus! Welcome to the ND party!
Elizabeth Kendell
23:41
San Antonio, Texas!
Marcelle Ciampi
24:25
David used to live in Austin TX :)
Magnus Hedemark
24:41
Amy Root!
Tas K
24:51
woops meant to send this here...hi everyone, this is Tas, here in Colorado
Lyric Holmans
25:57
Yay Texas!
Wendy Madill
25:58
Yessss for representing panelists who aren't speaking! Thank you.
Lyric Holmans
26:14
Yay!!! Hi!
Vanessa Corona
26:35
Hello from Phoenix, AZ.
Magnus Hedemark
26:38
Hey Marcelle! <3
Autumn VanKirk
26:42
Ohey Magnus; good to see you!
Lyric Holmans
27:04
Love when there are Auties I know on here
Magnus Hedemark
27:08
So many friends. Hi! After a tough Autism Acceptance Month, we’re on friendly ground here. Very happy to be here.
Lyric Holmans
27:24
Magnus - I agree so much
Magnus Hedemark
27:25
Lyric I see you. :)
Lyric Holmans
27:36
Hey, friend!
Jessica Larsen
27:41
Hi everyone! I live in California.
Stephanie Ranno
27:54
I feel like I'm fangirling at a concert right now!
Amy Root
28:06
We can rest easy knowing that we are on friendly ground here. :) So true. Pretty profound, if you ask me!
Jessica Larsen
28:25
Hi, Amy Root!
Lyric Holmans
28:40
I was looking forward to this all day!
Kellie Heistand
28:50
Hi All, I’m Kellie Heistand, a Quality Analyst here at Ultranauts. (Pronouns are she/her and they/them.) I’ve been here for a year and I typically work on accessibility projects. I’m autistic and I have family members (and friends!) that are autistic.
Marcelle Ciampi
29:19
Love seeing non-speaker representation
Karen Streeby
29:26
<3
Wendy Madill
29:30
Me too, Marcelle!! It makes me so happy.
Lyric Holmans
29:36
Agreed, Marcelle!
Amy Root
29:38
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE having non-speaking representation. :)
Stephanie Ranno
29:48
Great to see the inclusion of non-speaking panelists.
Marcelle Ciampi
30:36
Join our family at Ultranauts to get an Avatoon! :)
Ben Sullivan
33:26
Learning lots and inspired by the content and presenters (dialled in from Manchester, UK)
Kim Hernandez
34:20
Very similar experience and I love this definition, thank you
Jessica Larsen
34:37
Me, too @Kim!
Kourosh Safavi
34:47
I feel that so deep, Fred. My daughter was diagnosed and I’ve noticed many challenges I’ve had my entire life that has motivated me to get tested in June. So powerful.
Marcelle Ciampi
35:43
see neuroclastic.com for some providers listed for diagnosis
Dianne Skoetsch
35:57
Where is untranauts located? Is it just a online non-profit. Do you get paid working for ultranauts? Dianne
Marcelle Ciampi
36:03
fully remote
Michael Kranz
36:14
As a client of Ultranauts, I’ve had the pleasure of working with Fred and want to say big thanks, even though you’ve moved onto other projects (and we love working with the folks who’ve filled your shoes, too)… also, that was some really insightful reflection and information
Else Kramer
36:17
This is so inspiring!
Marcelle Ciampi
36:19
paid employees with competitive salaries ultranauts.co
Else Kramer
36:54
Dr Who <3 <3 <3
Marcelle Ciampi
36:56
located in U.S. and Canada all remote
Brian King
37:20
Ultranauts is a fully remote company with employees in 30 states. We are a for-profit company and all positions are paid positions. Primarily full time, and some part time roles.
Magnus Hedemark
37:25
Dr. Who!
Amy Root
37:28
Kelly is my-kind-of-people! :)
Karen Streeby
37:40
My son was diagnosed in 2014 but neither my husband nor I have ever been tested. I have heard that it can be difficult to get a diagnosis as an adult, as in - finding a practitioner who can evaluate. Did you find that you were "fast-tracked" to get a diagnosis due to your son, or did you experience long waiting lists and hurdles to getting seen?
Allison Charba
37:44
This is so incredible. Thank you, Kelly. I understand. For me it's the show The Office. :-)
Shawn Thompson
38:24
Hey Arnold for me!
Lyric Holmans
38:30
Relatable
Wendy Madill
38:32
Well-said, Nicole!
Karen Streeby
38:44
(And I should add, I see Marcie's comment re: neuroclastic)
Autumn VanKirk
38:59
A big thing that helped me with adult diagnosis was to document as well as possible traits that appeared early in my life during childhood. It's all about establishing that it's always been this way for you.
Stephanie Ranno
39:21
I love this point of creating space for belonging with other autistics. I would love to know how a predominantly NT company can create both inclusion and close connected experiences for NG employees.
Ben Sullivan
39:22
Kelly, I’m sitting here with my autistic 9yo daughter who loves your story. Thanks for sharing.
Karen Streeby
39:24
Thank you, Autumn!
Magnus Hedemark
39:34
“Neurovariant” … I dig it. These natural variations of minds are what make us better together as a society.
Michael Kranz
39:52
Kellie, you’re definitely not alone in a deep appreciation of Dr Who! Do you feel like your attraction to making things concrete has helped with doing QA work?
Magnus Hedemark
40:48
Is everyone aware of autism? Yes? OK, mission accomplished. We can go home now.
Kellie Heistand
41:22
@Michael - Yes it really helps with being methodological and thorough
Magnus Hedemark
41:27
<- advocate
Lyric Holmans
41:33
Hi!!! I run the NeuroDivergent Rebel Blog at www.NeuroDivergentRebel.com
Hope Freedman
41:58
This is all informative! Are we able to save the Chat?
Katharine Descamps
42:06
what in your opinion makes the Ultranauts business model a success?
Brian King
42:36
The chat and otter stream will be saved @Hope Freedman.
Lyric Holmans
43:25
Thank you!
Jill Springer
43:33
Non-Autistic mama/wife here!! Married to a brilliant autistic man, have an autistic son and autistic daughter. I'm thrilled to be here learning from all of you here today!!
Michael Kranz
44:15
Thanks for the response, Kellie! I definitely find that working with someone who can clarify things really helps, especially when getting vague acceptance criteria when starting development work
Magnus Hedemark
44:40
I think “flippant” might be the natural language of Autists :)
Amy Root
45:08
Welcome Jill Springer! :)
Magnus Hedemark
45:30
Hey note this is what adjustments look like
Marcelle Ciampi
45:33
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelle-ciampi-aka-samantha-craft-she-her-290a11b6/
Autumn VanKirk
45:33
I recognize not everyone may be able to do this, but I set up OBS with a static image of me smiling that I can switch to if I need to do a distracting stim or move my clothes around or whatever.
Magnus Hedemark
45:42
Notice how that adjustment didn’t cost anything. Most adjustments don't.
Marcelle Ciampi
45:44
Autism acceptance slideshow above
Allison Charba
47:03
Autumn, could you let me know how to set up OBS? My email is allisoncharba@gmail.com.
Kim Hernandez
47:29
The latest HR guidance has been to allow people to not appear on camera constantly due to extreme Zoom fatigue, and I've seen my direct leadership back off of those "on-camera" demands as the remote work situation has lengthened and the trust factor that work was getting done and that people were present for it strengthened
Edwin Durning
47:33
how do you find the language to tell your employers what you need for workplace accommodations?
Kourosh Safavi
47:38
Would you recommend sharing that you’re autistic with bosses / coworkers? If so, how can this be done mindfully without fear of being looked down upon?
Magnus Hedemark
48:11
@Edwin… can you speak to your strengths, and then say “and here’s what I need to tap into those strengths”?
Heather Dimmitt
48:14
For those interested in pursuing work with Ultranauts, we are hiring Quality Engineers--please find the job description and recruitment overview outlining our process here: https://jobs.lever.co/ultranauts/b4bd8049-d818-4955-8384-658d0659bfc8?lever-origin=applied&lever-source%5B%5D=Autism%20Acceptance%20Panel
Magnus Hedemark
48:33
Kourosh: I disclose early and often. But it’s a very personal choice.
Allison Charba
48:33
Zoom fatigue is real. I have stopped appearing on camera.
Marcelle Ciampi
48:42
https://www.recruiter.com/i/neurodiversity-paving-the-way-to-universal-design-inclusivity-in-the-workplace/
Marcelle Ciampi
48:45
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/disclosing-autism-job-yes-marcelle-ciampi/
Michael Kranz
49:45
As another angle on the “disclosing” issue, are there things that coworkers, managers, etc. can do to signal that it’s safe to disclose and/ or that it’s an inviting workplace?
Autumn VanKirk
49:46
@Allison it's unfortunately a bit complicated and varies by what type of camera your computer has, and your OS. You might be able to find a guide out there for how to set it up on your platform. What I use is called a Scene and the Scene uses an Image which is just a picture of me.
Brian King
50:46
@Jennifer Haude, we do not currently have a need for Marketing/Communications.
Ultranauts
51:03
FYI, recording of this session, along with chat transcript, will be shared after the even (assuming zoom work as intended :-)
Kourosh Safavi
51:21
Magnus, I’d love to understand how you disclose this. Perhaps we can connect separately
Marcelle Ciampi
51:27
Autism Acceptance Slideshow: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6785971918962081793/
Marcelle Ciampi
51:31
I love Fred
Hope Freedman
51:54
Thank you very much @Ultranauts for sharing the chat transcript afterwards!
Kellie Heistand
52:19
First, I want to mention that I found the interview process to be very accessible. Ultranauts was willing to communicate with me via chat rather than a phone call. I’ve never even heard of any other companies doing that and it made a huge difference. I didn’t even know that was something I could ask for before I saw that it was an interview option on their website.So I would definitely recommend being open to different forms of interviewing and making it clear that those options are available to potential applicants. There are people who are great employees that don’t do well in a traditional interview process that are being overlooked. So having an inclusive interview process is essential.
Kellie Heistand
52:31
Second, I really appreciate how Ultranauts is inclusive of the LGBTQIA+/Queer community. For example, we have a place to put our pronouns in our Slack profile and we have a LGBTQIA Pride channel where we can discuss current events, various topics and support each other.We have Avatoons which are cartoon drawings based off of a photo. The background is clear so I was able to add a bisexual pride flag to the background and use it for my Slack profile picture.I co-presented some basic information about the LGBTQIA+ community at one of our monthly Community Gathering meetings. In my personal life, I’m passionate about bisexual advocacy and inclusion. (There’s a lot of stereotypes out there and bisexuality is often ignored and marginalized even in queer circles.)
Marcelle Ciampi
53:11
We are not perfect but are open to uncomfortable conversations and mature dialogue about the sensitive topic of Diversity and Inclusion and Belonging
Elizabeth Kendell
53:59
We recently launched a campaign for "Autism Inclusion" at my company and have had many employees disclose as a result of it. I'm grateful that the campaign is working to bring about the positivity about neurodivergence. And it's creating some great creative conversations on accommodations and adjustments to our employee policies!
Marcelle Ciampi
54:05
SC Chu == ask how many Autistics are in upper management positions, in paid seats of power with their autism hiring initiatives
Wendy Madill
54:08
A chat interview sounds amazing, Kelly! I have semiverbal episodes so verbal interviews are a real nightmare.
Kellie Heistand
54:28
@Wendy yes totally I’m with you on that
Brian King
55:06
Our practices are not secret!
Kellie Heistand
55:12
(Sorry about the delay, Zoom wasn’t letting me paste my entire response so I had to break it up into two comments)
Marcelle Ciampi
55:52
Our CEO admits mistakes and reaches out to people who have insights and concerns
Marcelle Ciampi
56:36
David scan up for Kellie’s response
Autumn VanKirk
57:23
Dang, I wish I could interview via chat/Slack.
Stephanie Ranno
57:35
I love that idea.
Marcelle Ciampi
58:39
Jennifer sometimes positions open up in HR, recruitment, job coaching… hopefully we will serve as a role model for many other companies. Leads in corporations are taking note of our universal design inclusivity practices and asking us how to do this! People are caring about true representation and workplace adjustments that help everyone.
Else Kramer
59:18
<3 <3 <3
Hope Freedman
01:00:19
I see a lot more companies focusing on neurodiversity/autism hiring too, Marcelle! SO encouraging!
Michael Kranz
01:00:24
The text chat interview option is a great suggestion!
Kellie Heistand
01:00:59
Do plan for extra time — chat interviews do take longer to complete
Hope Freedman
01:01:54
Such poignant and thought-provoking points, Marcelle!
Michael Kranz
01:01:59
Dang
Denise Jones
01:02:16
I
Denise Jones
01:02:16
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Denise Jones
01:02:17
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Karen Streeby
01:02:22
That is horrible, I'm so sorry that happened. :-(
Stephanie Ranno
01:02:33
Oh I am so very sorry that you've experienced that Marcelle. Thank you for so vulnerably sharing.
Jessica Larsen
01:02:42
Horrified
Shawn Thompson
01:02:49
Thanks for everything, Marcelle. I appreciate you.
Denise Jones
01:02:51
I'm sorry that happened, Marcelle. That is not ok.
Hope Freedman
01:02:58
I am so sorry you felt marginalized Marcelle. Thank you for sharing that difficult experience.
Lyric Holmans
01:03:00
Not at all surprising… typical even.
Jessica Larsen
01:03:03
Thank you, Marcelle!
Kourosh Safavi
01:03:06
Thank you for sharing, Marcelle. You are so strong and we all admire you so much.
Kourosh Safavi
01:03:11
Incredibly courageous
Bianca Go
01:03:15
My jaw just dropped, I can’t believe that leader said that. I’m so sorry that that happened. Thank you for sharing.
Jeanne Corsick
01:03:51
Thank you, Marcelle — just shocking. Appreciate your share.
Hope Freedman
01:04:54
Nicole - that is a crappy manager! He should have reset expectations when he saw your overdelivery!
Magnus Hedemark
01:04:59
What Nicole is saying is so true. When Autistic employees hit a groove and perform well at things we love and are good at, non-Autistic coworkers can have bad feelings about us. I really relate to this.
Michael Kranz
01:05:25
So your manager never corrected himself when he realize he was exploiting your work ethic OR when it was harming the work culture, but made a joke of it. Awful
Lyric Holmans
01:05:26
Or if we struggle with things they think are simple
Stan Vogel
01:05:29
Or, there can just be a policy of answering questions in a sincere, helpful fashion.
Marci Shaffer
01:05:45
Marcelle, to use your own words. You are "Brave. Bold. Beautiful".
Marcelle Ciampi
01:05:57
:)
Katharine Descamps
01:06:02
Thanks for sharing so vulnerably and openly, disgusted at the horrible experience you went through. As an ally, with an autistic son, do you have any advice on how to support/advocate as an ally without feeling like i should be autistic myself to be in the neurodiversity employee resource group?
Kim Hernandez
01:06:03
ugh I hate that - I never pick up on those "political" relationships and favors
Kourosh Safavi
01:06:04
WOW
Else Kramer
01:06:06
Thank you all so much for being so vulnerable
Debbie Ruff
01:06:18
Unbelievable!
Debbie Ruff
01:06:28
Good for you!
Autumn VanKirk
01:06:40
"Yes, I do have a condition. What's your excuse?"
Marcelle Ciampi
01:06:49
Thank you for sharing these hard truths, Nicole.
Michael Kranz
01:06:50
Arrogant jerks deserve strident responses, though, so well done
Kourosh Safavi
01:06:50
Nicole, way to stare down that garbage comment and back it up with your credibility
Denise Jones
01:06:54
truly unacceptable
Hope Freedman
01:07:01
Smart comeback, Nicole!
Debbie Ruff
01:07:02
Exactly @Autumn
Marci Shaffer
01:07:10
Nicole - you had to self-advocate and slap back, and that can be a lonely place.
Kellie Heistand
01:07:24
I didn’t realize I was autistic until a few years ago. So I didn’t understand why I struggled with connecting with my colleagues at a former job. I was able to make friends but I always had this sense of not fitting in with the group as a whole. I was mostly given busywork and although I was always rated well during performance reviews, my career wasn’t going anywhere. People that I’d started at the same time as me were getting promoted two levels above me.I don’t feel that way at Ultra. I really feel like I belong here. I know that my work makes a difference and I feel that there’s room for my career to grow. I’ve made friends here, and there are people I connect with and I feel like I’m part of a community. (1/2)
Kellie Heistand
01:07:36
One advantage of working remotely and using Slack is that most of our communication is in written form which accommodaties not just my autism but also the fact that I’m hard of hearing. This makes it easier to connect and form relationships.I’ve learned a lot in the past year. Before I started, I had never done accessibility testing before. I got the training I needed and have been gaining experience doing accessibility testing for the past year. I’ll also be starting a data quality project in a few weeks which I’m excited about. I’m looking forward to continue learning something new and gaining experience with different kinds of projects. (2/2)
Marcelle Ciampi
01:09:11
Thank you, Kellie. Wonderful contribution.
Kourosh Safavi
01:09:31
Thank you, Kellie! So glad you’ve found your home at Ultra :)
Ben Sullivan
01:11:59
Thank you Nicole and Kellie, your stories are really important and give a different perspective.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:13:08
great job hosting J David Hall. You rock!
Amy Root
01:13:13
It's interesting that you mention the "handbook" Fred!! I had forgotten about that, but when my daughter was diagnosed - we were also given this big handbook from Autism Speaks and it was so overwhelming. I remember reading it and crying because of HOW THEY VIEWED people. (Later find out that I am also autistic and it makes sense).
Magnus Hedemark
01:13:30
Autism Speaks is so problematic
Kellie Heistand
01:13:53
I can do that
Elizabeth Kendell
01:15:15
this is the best webinar I've attended all year!!!! So powerful, insightful, informative and REAL! Thank you all!
Lyric Holmans
01:15:23
That’s amazing!
Jessica Larsen
01:15:35
We also got that manual when our son was diagnosed @Amy; didn’t bother reading it.
Magnus Hedemark
01:15:51
These diversity stats are FIRE <3
Amy Root
01:15:52
I'm totally obsessed with your NUMBERS!!! Amazing and totally unheard of.
Amy Root
01:15:58
Those stats are FIRE
Else Kramer
01:16:02
Wow.
Karen Streeby
01:16:04
Ditto Fred and Amy on "the handbook". We got it too and I SO wish that parents of newly diagnosed kids weren't automatically given that. It just causes panic and fear. Why can't these places suggest acutally helpful resources, like seeking out the advice of actual autistics?
Wendy Madill
01:16:07
I absolutely agree, Elizabeth. I was losing hope that I could find a safe and healthy workplace but this is really wonderful and encouraging.
Michael Kranz
01:16:14
Those numbers are incredible; mixed with the qualitative statements from everyone on here… that’s super impressive
Molly Gleizes
01:16:36
I cannot believe that this is the 1st webinar on this type of topic I’ve attended, thank you. :)
Magnus Hedemark
01:17:01
I wouldn’t be surprised if Ben Franklin were ND
Heather Dimmitt
01:17:06
You'll find when Ultranauts is hiring for ANY position, we'll always state "neurodivergent applicants encouraged to apply"--true universal workplace
Habee Hamilton
01:17:09
Wow.......statistics many companies could only dream of.Wonderful to see inclusion really working
Kellie Heistand
01:17:32
Take a proactive approach. That means not just passively accepting diversity but actively seeking it out. Don’t wait for people to speak up because not everyone is comfortable advocating for themselves. Others are, but they may struggle with burnout -- of always having to explain and advocate for inclusion.I’m a big fan of the concept of universal design -- deliberately designing an environment from the start to be accessible to as many people as possible. People need to know that they’re in a safe and accepting environment where they can be themselves and given space to grow -- without dealing with barriers due to being part of a marginalized group.Also, don’t assume it’s a one-and-done process. It’s always possible to do better. Have processes in place for feedback and follow through on commitments to change.(1/2)
Fred Logan
01:17:51
Hi Amy! Yes, I cried too.
Jessica Larsen
01:18:03
Ultranauts is amazing. I have never felt accepted at a workplace.
Karen Streeby
01:18:35
YES, @Kellie on Universal Design!
Amy Root
01:18:52
A big thanks to Rajesh and Ultranuats for hosting this amazing conversation
Amy Root
01:19:07
THANK YOU to the amazing speakers and panelist.
Kellie Heistand
01:19:13
We have Team Forum meetings twice a month where we can meet to support each other and discuss current issues along with monthly Community Gathering meetings that educate on different topics and discuss ways to improve our company culture.Zoom meetings are integrated with Otter to provide automated captions and Google Hangouts now has automated captions as well. (The technology still has a ways to go but it’s improving.) It’s helpful not only to people who are deaf / hard of hearing (like me) but also to people with auditory processing disorder, ADHD, etc. (2/2)
Lyric Holmans
01:19:21
Thank you ALL for sharing your wisdom and time today.
Carlton Logan
01:19:34
This has been wonderful. As someone working on the DEI initiative in our workplace, I appreciate all of the panelists for sharing your stories and perspectives. Thank you!
Jill Springer
01:19:46
This Panel. this chat. my heart is so full <3
Marcelle Ciampi
01:19:52
https://www.recruiter.com/i/neurodiversity-paving-the-way-to-universal-design-inclusivity-in-the-workplace/
Kourosh Safavi
01:19:53
+1 Jill
Kourosh Safavi
01:20:56
I hate that I have to jump off but I wish we could do this more often. You all are so amazing and I’m deeply appreciative of everything shared today. Remain strong and much love!
Marcelle Ciampi
01:21:07
Wonderful Kellie. Love you Jill.
Molly Gleizes
01:21:14
I need this in my household. ;)
Jessica Larsen
01:21:25
Thank you all for doing this. It has been wonderful being in a safe space with supportive folks who understand and appreciate you.
Lyric Holmans
01:21:53
Sorry, got to run! Really enjoyed this time.
Michael Kranz
01:22:00
@Carlton we’re also implementing some DEI processes (and building more) and this is super-helpful and informative… the practical ideas are pure gold
Hope Freedman
01:23:23
Thank you Ultranauts (Hi Rajesh!) and all the speakers for this amazing panel. Wish I could stay on longer. Look forward to receiving the materials afterwards.
Jillian Covell
01:23:58
This has been a beautiful conversation! Thank you so much - it’s a wonderful thing to make gradual progress in helping to educate and learn about how we’re more similar than we are different! <3
Autumn VanKirk
01:24:59
Someone on Twitter said it better than I could, but our society raises no untraumatized autistic people.
Rachael Silverman
01:25:30
Thank you panelists, this is an incredible webinar
Wendy Madill
01:25:33
This has been amazing!Would any panelists/attendees feel comfortable sharing your LinkedIn profile links? I'm a late DX autistic and would love to make more neurodiverse contacts. (I'm at https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendymadill/)
Kellie Heistand
01:25:50
Yes, absolutely. If autistic people are more likely to have coexisting conditions, then part of supporting autistic people needs to include supporting coexisting conditions. Also, plenty of people have these coexisting conditions without autism and also deserve support.A lot of these coexisting conditions are mental health related but unfortunately, there still seems to be a stigma around mental health. Society in general needs to start viewing mental health as just as important as physical health. Mental health disabilities need accommodation just like physical disabilities (though to be honest, physical disabilities aren’t always accommodated in society either.) (1/2)
Kellie Heistand
01:26:00
Part of the reason why autistic people are more likely to deal with depression and anxiety is due to not understanding social norms that neurotypical people seem to understand easily. But it’s also more than that -- it’s neurotypical people that are establishing norms in the first place and ostracizing people that can’t -- or don’t want to -- conform. Another factor is that autistic people are more likely to be to queer or part of the LGBTQIA+ spectrum -- another group of identities that are marginalized by society. (2/2)
Magnus Hedemark
01:26:10
https://linkedin.com/in/hedemark - But I don’t accept connections from sales folks or ABA/BCBA.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:26:17
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelle-ciampi-aka-samantha-craft-she-her-290a11b6/
Debbie Ruff
01:26:37
Agree!!!!
Jessica Larsen
01:27:11
www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-larsen-m-a-7866a056
Molly Gleizes
01:27:36
Hello @wendy I am happy to connect. https://www.linkedin.com/in/mollyhildengliezes/
Ben Sullivan
01:28:17
,
Stephanie Ranno
01:28:31
I am in recruiting and staffing and would love to connect up with anyone (and everyone) in this conversation. linkedin.com/in/stephanieranno
Autumn VanKirk
01:29:09
Please feel free to add me: https://linkedin.com/in/avankirk
Stephanie Ranno
01:29:16
Here's my linkedIN again too... https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephanieranno/
Debbie Ruff
01:29:28
I’m happy to connect as well. I treat the common co-existing mental struggles. Jackieshapintherapy.com
Kellie Heistand
01:29:55
My LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kellie-heistand/
Jill Springer
01:29:58
I have a 1:15 meeting and need to grab some lunch - thank you THANK YOU for all the beautiful words and comments here today. I hope to be part of many more of these kinds of conversations. my very best to all!! Happy to connect on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/jillspring1/
Karen Streeby
01:30:05
I should preface this with the fact that I am presumed NT, but parent to an autistic son, and an autistic ally, personally and professionally. <3 I always love adding like-minded humans to my network. Feel free to connect - https://www.linkedin.com/in/seattlestreeby
Debbie Ruff
01:30:53
Oh what did u mean about the bcba thing
Kellie Heistand
01:31:16
Just would like to thank everyone on the panel :)
Magnus Hedemark
01:31:16
I mean I do not connect with people who make their living on Applied Behavior Analysis.
Lindsey Foskett
01:31:24
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lindseyfoskett
Heather Dimmitt
01:31:48
Also happy to connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carrielblackman/
Magnus Hedemark
01:32:13
Many Autistic adults are outspoken about the need to end ABA, and as an Autistic person and ally to my neurosiblings I support them in this.
Else Kramer
01:34:04
Happy to connect too - late-diagnosed as well, such an eye-opener…after years of being chronically exhausted. https://www.linkedin.com/in/elsekramer/
Heather Dimmitt
01:34:18
It's beneficial to think outside the traditional employment box when considering where to gain experience--volunteering, self study, personal hobbies/projects related to your career goals.
Jessica Larsen
01:34:56
Yes, Marcelle, that has been my challenge.
Else Kramer
01:35:02
100% Marcelle
Krystel Anderson
01:35:03
@Stephaine Ranno, contact me.
Magnus Hedemark
01:35:25
@Heather I legitimately learned a lot about being an effective manager through three very unconventional paths: 1. Bouncer at a night club, 2. Fine art nude photographer, 3. Patched into a traditional motorcycle club
Magnus Hedemark
01:35:54
Bouncer: I learned how to achieve desired outcomes through diplomacy in situations where I had accountability but not power.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:35:59
excellent response Heather (in chat above)
Magnus Hedemark
01:36:21
Fine art nude photographer: I learned that EVERYBODY masks, and in order to have authentic conversations you have to create psychologically safe spaces for people and earn trust.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:36:47
We are going to have another webinar in July. Also #diversitywithdignity global roundtable see Spectrum Suite LLC on Linkedin
Karen Streeby
01:36:52
@Heather - Is that the right LinkedIn Profile that you shared? Might want to resend. :-)
Magnus Hedemark
01:36:55
Motorcycle club: a society that appears chaotic on the surface has an unspoken underlying order. You have to look for that social order, learn it, respect it.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:37:04
Also hosting a Diversity with Dignity Global Neurodiversity Summit 2022.
Stephanie Ranno
01:37:34
Krystel, I'm happy too. Are you on LinkedIn? And what is your company/job/ profession so I can find you.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:37:38
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/disclosing-autism-job-yes-marcelle-ciampi/
Marcelle Ciampi
01:37:49
Most report regretting disclosing a hidden disability or condition
Marcelle Ciampi
01:38:08
Only 3.8 % nationwide feel comfortable disclosing a hidden disability.
Karen Streeby
01:38:31
@Marcie - That makes me so sad that people have experiences that make them regret disclosure.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:38:35
implicit bias is a killer
Krystel Anderson
01:39:19
@Stephaine, FAA, Analyst
Autumn VanKirk
01:39:22
My stance as an autistic, ADHD, non-binary trans woman is that I will take up space and rattle cages so those who come behind me don't have to.
Marcelle Ciampi
01:39:29
Thank you for all of your kind feedback and panelists fantastic discourse!
Jessica Larsen
01:39:30
I am working to improve things on my campus
Heather Dimmitt
01:39:57
I'm here too :-)
Rachael Silverman
01:40:20
My linked inhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/rachaelsilverman/
Marcelle Ciampi
01:40:41
marcelle@ultranauts.co
Fred Logan
01:40:54
Thank you Marcelle!
Ruth Wilson
01:41:08
Thank you!! I'm so impressed by all of the panelists and am so grateful to have heard this priceless information. You are all amazing!
Marcelle Ciampi
01:41:10
Most aren’t doing it like Ultranauts :)
Heather Dimmitt
01:41:11
Thank you all for sharing, and David for leading the conversation!
Magnus Hedemark
01:41:22
NOBODY is doing it like Ultranauts.
Else Kramer
01:41:24
Thank you all so much for sharing so vulnerably and for being such a great example
F Henry
01:41:24
Thank you all for a great conversation!!
Fred Logan
01:41:24
This was amazing. I am so fortunate to be apart of this meeting.
Jessica Larsen
01:41:26
Thank you all!!
Lindsey Foskett
01:41:27
Thank you to everyone connecting on LinkedIn, it’s truly amazing and inspiring to connect with you all.
Nicole Caraoue
01:41:30
This is an outstanding and very emotional webinar, thank you
Marcelle Ciampi
01:41:33
Spectrum Suite LLC on Linkedin and hashtag #diversitywithdignity
Karen Streeby
01:41:36
Thank you, Rajesh and all presenters. Great talk!!
Caitlin Owens
01:41:40
Thank you all, this was so great <3
Vanessa Corona
01:41:49
I appreciate all of you for sharing your stories with us today. I feel like I have learned quite a bit, but there is so much more to learn. Thank you very much. Feel free to connect: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessacoronatalentseeker/
Nik Harless
01:41:49
Thanks, everyone!
Ben Sullivan
01:41:50
We need more Ultranauts in the world!
Marcelle Ciampi
01:41:54
What a kind and welcoming group. Thank you!!!!
Wendy Madill
01:41:55
Extremely well-done! Thank you. :)
Kellie Heistand
01:41:58
Thank you to everyone!
Ben Sullivan
01:41:58
Thank you.
Lindsey Foskett
01:42:03
Thank you!
Stephanie Ranno
01:42:06
Thanks all!
Denise Jones
01:42:07
thank you!
Amanda Jolley
01:42:08
Thank you all so much!
SC Chu
01:42:20
Thank you all!
Magnus Hedemark
01:42:20
<3
Wendy Madill
01:42:21
<3
Jessica Larsen
01:42:23
Thank you, Marcelle!
Autumn VanKirk
01:42:32
Thanks one and all, even attendees! 💖
Shawn Thompson
01:42:40
Thank you so much for all the insight. I appreciate you.
Else Kramer
01:42:53
That sounds awesome!
Karen Streeby
01:42:59
You rock, Thanks all!!
Linda Philips
01:43:01
Thank you for an outstanding session!
Stephanie Ranno
01:43:01
Can't wait!
Jessica Larsen
01:43:07
You all have inspired me!!!
Ben Sullivan
01:43:15
Yes, great job David!