ISRAELI PALESTINIAN PEACE SIMULATION - Shared screen with speaker view
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Now live at Marion Woods, Indepndent Living for seniors in Ocala, FL. Couldn't get phone or internet for 2 weeks. No outside communication. They told me I was kidnapped. I believe them. No one, sister, nephew, friends knew where I was.
So now that all are aware of my situation, I will watch and see whatever I can here.
In Israel there is no such thing as Israeli nationality but they do have Israel Citizenship but only Jewish nationaity.. You can be a Jewish Palestinian, Christian Palestinian, Muslim Palestinian or a Palestinian with no religion. You cannot be a Musim Jew or Christian Jew in the "Jewish State." How does the IPC propose to resolve this contradiction?
Would the IPC give the Golan Height back to Syria?
What about the Palestinians in refugee camps and out side of Palestine? Also Jews outside of Israel/Palestine?
I volunteer to be a representative from the West Bank.
The map should show Israel and the disputed territories.
Where do the Israeli Palestinians fit in?
we came to listen to Prof. Smooha, not to argue with him. please let Prof. Smooha speak his opinion.
I apologise for having to leave.
Sorry, I have to exit the meeting.
Why don’t the Hamas members get a vote?
would you require settlements in West Bank to be dismantled and right of return and reparations as part of a two state solution. How would you configure land
Prof. Smooha points out a real issue - who has the monopoly of representing the people? A "democratically" elected Israeli government will be reluctant to cede some of its democratic legitimacy to another body
I think people are failing to understand the ipc is a DIPLOMATIC body with no real power
a third way
Welcome back Rochelle Cleaver
It is wonderful to be back.,. HAD NO COMPUTER OR PHONE FOR almost 3 weeks. Moved to independent senior living in Ocala, FL. Seems I am captive here. Now I have computer and some phone but no hearing of what is going on. Except Sammy Smooha must be a relative, going by his bodily exp;ressions and mannerism.
Can we conceive of a "provisional IPC" which would be not based on a popular election, but on an assembly of a variety of participants including personalities from all sides, which would propose legislation for consideration by the Israeli and Palestinian authorities along the lines envisaged by the IPC?
Is it possible that if the present governments do not work here with a two state solution, then this one state solution would be utilized?
we had two right-wing governments make peace
Perhaps reparations OR right of return, but not both. NO dismantling of settlements, use what is already there. Either share what is already there or compromise.
likud begin with Egypt in late 1970s
and Ariel Sharon with Gaza settlement pull out
again IPC is a third way for negotiation
no real power
Where are the Black Jew participants in this meeting?
this meeting happens every two weeks
the meetings I have been in doesn't do quota systems to get representation
If one type doesn't work, uses second type or third type.
there is a book and website and YouTube videos give details about ipc confederation. it is worth a try! I bet 10X as many people would participate in a IPC online vote
as did 10yrs ago
massive dbs and stop usa 🇺🇸 Zionist money
IPC would stop roadblocks of current conditions. let people talk. it's 2022. we absolutely can make this work! at least give it a try!
No to sanctions against Israel
sanctions aren't working. look at gaza
let's do IPC third way! I have zero faith in Abbas and current Israeli leadership
From my experience in the US, it does not have Zionists,, only Jews who are afraid of the anti-Semitism against them. They donate money so they do not have to show who they are but just go along with politic al correctness. They are afraid US is almost like Nazi Germany, at least it is for me.
IPC is not a binational state. it's a mechanicsm for negotiation
it has no real authority
many usa jews go to Palestinian land build illegal settlements and r Zionist
why can't we do another election online? why should we accept status quo?
listen to professor and give up?
"get rid of Hamas?" how?
We cannot get rid of Hamas. They speak for Palestinians because they are unable to speak for themselves.
Arafat never agreed with Carter because Palestinians were unable to form their own state. That is still true today,.
US sells rockets to Hamas and rockets to Iran to barrage Israel with. If US did not sell rockets to ME, Israel would not have to fight back.
Wars and armaments in US keep their economy afloat. Eisenhower said "beware the industrial-military complex."
IPC would get away from all this international diplomacy that goes nowhere. IPC is a fantastic idea for talking and diplomacy
put real pressure on Israeli government
Thanks Sammy for your contribution.
Thank you very much Sammy Smooha.
In terms of reality vs dreams, Israel is recognized by Amnesty International as an apartheid state according to international law, which is the fact.
Such will not continue forever
thank you prof Sammy smooha for participating. although I disagree with you pecissim
What will it take to budge support from the right
The real fact is the UN declaration of Israel, not Amnesty International.
Amnesty, HRW and B'Tselem are funded by Soros, Fords and Rockafeller foundations, all radically anti-Semitic. Most democracies have rejected Amnesty.