So glad everyone is here today!

Hi Everyone, my name is Alejandra Marroquin and I am with Community Health Councils. Gina Fields, the Chair of the Empowerment Congress West Area Neighborhood Development Council, South Area Region shared that we could come and provide an update on the work that we are doing.

Each agenda item should be read for recording and participants especially on phone.

“Joy” your Neighborhood Council?🤨

Is that an 'Insta' Reaction perhaps?

The Commission's performance on Tuesday was nothing short of disgusting

Jamie — who at DONE coordinates theseagreements and when? Did you get any data on that? Also, I heard that other name handles on social media were used in this work by these contractors. We’re you able to verify any of this ? Thank you. I sense DONE is very nervous about their waste of public funds.

Jamie —are these contracts paid by the Controller or the other Fund / Contractor ?

And the city attorney

Re cindy raquel and Armando are the names that appear on the contracts

These contracts are paid from the general fund

Thank you Jamie.

I’m not sure what you mean by other social media handles I would need more information

Has anyone looked at the thedangerman.com/about.him site?This organization’s mission is to impose additional Second Amendment restrictions. What does their mission statement have to do with improving election turnout?

If only these entities were held to the same satandards as NCFunding....

Tony’s advisory oversight would be good to include in a position on this.

I was just saying that an investigation should be conducted as to if there is any criminality to all of this, I was not saying that there was, just that it should be investigated…

That's why we have a problem with BONC. Every since they certified all the NCs, *THEY* have been trying to figure out what they are for.

The basic issue is that we do not trust the General Manager, or for that matter, BONC.

This is Council File 20-0963 and the Community Impact Statements, including this one from Reseda NC, are filed there.

Jamie - what is the date range when these contracts were initiated? Thank you!

Depending on how you view it 2020 to current

Raquel also denied one of the contracts existing in the town hall which was really strange to me

Both raben group contracts are directly tied to the election

Thanks Jamie. I hope to locate that info.

Cindy, from what I know, the money was made available to DONE (from the City Clerk) after elections already started, I think in November. It was supposed to be spent DURNING elections and apparently was not. After the elections were over, DONE decided to spend the money on "social media outreach" as an excuse to claim that they use the money for SOMETHING.

Do you mean checking the non profit status?

I’ve asked multiple times about the NC use of the municipal postal permit. No response. But sitting City Councilmembers use it consistently to outreach even pre election for their seats. NCs used this same permit during the time when NCs were forming. So who is holding up that capability?

The IEA systems were the last time there was effective outreach coordination with Neighborhood Councils. (Personal opinion, biased because I was one of those IEAs in 2012 and 2014.) The City Clerk 'lost' half of our candidates in Panorama City because they did not follow up aggressively on getting their documentation before the filing deadline.

She keeps trying to say they were extremely transparent

Non profits have very specific limits in their work.

Lauren, even tho I am a glass half full guy, I have no hopr for the Los Angeles Times. Their owner is 100% on board with whatever the local 'corporate Democrat' opinion and policy is (currently, Mayor Garcetti). They gave up on real local news over a decade ago.

no hope

Yes!

my apologies I have to log off. I will try to return

Council file. Bonc. Controller. Aphen

I hear you Tony which is why I suggested LA Progressive and there’s also Capital and Main. Misuse of public funds and botched elections are good hooks to surface NC problems more broadly.

city controller

Lance calls for a complete investigation . . .

and that a NC Oversight Working Group for the DONE Election Outreach expenditures be established on an ongoing basis

LANCC is deeply disturbed by the findings presented in the CIS from the Reseda NC regarding DONE elections spending. Therefore LANCC supports the Reseda NC's CIS and calls for a complete investigation into this matter by x, y, & z

Lydia, where is that information regarding contracts of $5000 do not need to be in writing?

This is Valerie voting for Wilmington NC

Gina left

Sharon, it is Sec 10.2.1

add independent NC oversight working group?

Administrative code

Sec. 10.2.1. Contracts Not Required to Be in Writing.(a) Contracts or agreements for the awarding of funds from the Council District Community Service account, the Neighborhood and Community Improvement Services account, and the Cultural, Art and City Events account of the General City Purposes fund to nonprofit agencies and community service groups in amounts up to and including $5,000.00 are not required to be in writing.(b) Contracts or agreements for the awarding of funds by neighborhood councils, as authorized under Section 22.817 of this Code, from the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment Fund to nonprofit corporations and to public schools in the amounts up to and including $5,000.00 are not required to be in writing.

Yes!! I strongly agree

Someone can move to amend

Done is not gonna put me on their working group lol

David Rockello representative of RVNC today!

They won’t put me in their group either.

The independent NC Outreach Oversight Working Group can recommend a professional agency, if that seems appropriate. The most important thing is to CREATE THE NC GROUP.

I can’t support this motion if D.O.N.E is still a part of it.

the response from DONE has been to deflect

DONE is proud of the work they have done with this election

Who hires these people and or groups?

They have also tried to ask why reseda didnt say anything earlier

Motion #1 was about the waste of public funds. Motion #2 is about fixing the issue moving forward.

"election outreach" is descriptive of the scope. It includes all actions, not just expenses.

YES.

Since DONE plans to hire outreach workers, it will ALSO include those workers and what they are charged with doing. "election outreach" is the scope of work.

We can't REQUIRE anything

Am AGAINST the amendment. Why hang a red flag on it and make it toxic? Make THE DEPARTMENT toxic if it refuses to work with the LANCC committee.

You are all doing great!

I am fine with the proposed amendments

Aphen

City Council Arts, Parks, Health, Education and Neighborhoods Committee

Yes. DONE stumbled at APHEN in their report to them.

The oversite commity should be composed by members from each alliance, not just the LANCC. if only LANCC it looks very self serving.

We cfan only have ONE amendment considered at a time.

What is the definition of an "independent" NC Oversight working group? How will LANCC determine who is on this "independent" working group? Transparency at all times.

Try to get City Council, starting with APHEN, to direct DONE to work with Working Group in good faith.

They are the ones that have the authority to require DONE...

Perfect.

call for the vote

The DEMAND that is Terrence's instinct is great theatre but it usually fails in practice. Please vote NO on the amendment. The original motion with NO add-ons is fine.

That's a good point Bob

Actually, only the MAYOR can require a XDEPARTMENT to do something. City Council is NOT the right place.

Can't something be done about the crosstalk?

I’m now comfused

Parliamentary Rules- Who is Chair? Yes lots of cross talk and contradiction, hard to follow the motion and amendments.

Someone needs to mute

Can someone mute all so the yelling in background stops!

All votes should be listed by NC, member voting and how they voted!

This is SUPREMELY pretentious. It is TELLING a city council that they MUST put our reports on their agenda. It will be dead on arrival.

Also for the final version add (OWG) after the NC Oversight Working Group (OWG), and replace working group/ work group/ that group with OWG

This is a classic NC effort to make ourselves FEEL STRONG. It is not useful politics.

I find this to be highly useful politics

We already tried asking at bonc and they ignored obfuscated and mocked

and require…no “s”

The natural next step is in fact a stronger ask

In fact, APHEN will now JOIN Raquel Beltran in a dual effort to stonewall Neighborhood Councils.

QAll because we feel better by making demands, for which we have no power.

Re: EVs and charging ports: This is an engineering issue and should be considered carefully and based on long term development

The practical reality of NCs dictating how national automobile manufacturers make their cars is totally unrealistic. This is another NC "feel important" motion.

Even if true, sometimes we do need to feel important :~)

Perhaps we should suggest to the charger manufactuers that the charger plugs should be more streamlined and toward the ground instead of sticking out sideways.

Actually, auto manufacturers rely on this kind of feedback when making design decisions. See, e.g., the new style of grilles on cars that are flat and wide. That originated in a Dutch city council resolution related to pedestrian safety and it is now the international norm,

RFight now the design mimickes the gasoline dispenser. Let them rethink it.

Did we vote on item 6?

Kay, it was withdrawn

Thank you. I missed that somehow.

Thank you, everyone!

As Chair of Land Use for Pico NC, the committee only is an ADVISORY to the NC Board. The Planning 101 Training is required for all LU committee members and is OPTIONAL for NC Board Members which is a bit backwards. Typically if a LU Committee member is not up to date on requisite training, they are not eligible to VOTE on a motion before the committee. It does not prevent a committee from moving forward. The training portal on Cornerstone for Planning 101 is not optimal and has issues in getting people trained. The Monthly Profiles for NC typically are not up to date as well.

For Van Nuys NC, we have twice sent a roster of PLUM Committee members to DONE, but this list does not show on the DONE webpage for VNNC.

Tony, Where is this document or wording you are referring to regarding all committee members having to take the Planning 101 or they cannot meet/vote?

Sharon, I do not have a document. Raquel Beltran has said this multiple times in meetings. I am a human and could be wrong.

DONE training is not proper training

YES, stakeholder members are included.

@Keren: I presume this item on the LANCC agenda because Panorama City NC is dysfunctional on this issue. After more FIVE MONTHS, they still have NOT submitted their Land Use Committee Roster so that's why the member names are not posted on the webpage.

This motion is NOT in opposition to the treaining rule for Land Use committees. It is about effectively removing from the BOARD the power to act on any land use issue unless all BOARD members take the training. I maintain that the Board sould be able to act even if its Land Use Committee has not met to hear the issue.

Thank you Glenn.

I recommend--Best thing to do when in doubt on any policy is to ask in writing for clarification of any issue.

Done has someone listed as needing training who is dead on ours

The long, detailed investigations take place in committees, not at boards. It is the committees that too often think they are equivalent to Zoning Administrators and conducting "hearings". TheBOARD is not mentioned in the BOANC training rule. I am objecting to the prohibition on BOARD action if the BOARD is not all trained on Land Ue.

I say if an individual member of a Land Use Committee has been unable or is unwilling to take Planning 101 training sometime during the past ONE YEAR and FIVE MONTHS, they should be REMOVED as a member of the Committee until they have done so.

Just like they rolled over on City Attorney liaison insistence that we can't work with applicants to voluntarily expend postage for USPS notification of NC PLUM and/or Board meetings.

I took the Planning 101 back when they were in-depth courses arranged by Cindy Cleghorn (a decade ago), as well as the current training from city planning. I support the availability of these courses. The NC push to mandate these trainings is shooting u[ourselves in the foot. The requirement was instituted AFTER the city decided that many land use cases would be Directors Determinatijns. Lansd Use committee case files have decreased by 50% in last few years.

David - what is the language of your motion and who seconded it please

DAVID UEBERSAX what is the language of your motion and who seconded it please

a. Move by David Uebersax, second by Sid Goldb. LANNC feel that that language from DONE and other verbal representations thereof are imprecise, and that the Board should be the ones to decide whether they insist its committee members have such training, it should be in its own bylaws.

thanks

Glenn: I agree 100%.

Furthermore, if there is a mistake on the EmpowerLA webpage for your NC, please contact Rosters@ AND your NEA. Give them a few days to correct and then if necessary escalate the matter to the General Manager and to the Commission. Although I sometimes have had to make two or more requests, I have ALWAYS been able to get the corrections made within a week.

That is why Panorama City never submitteed its roster. :))

Editing suggestion: Replace “feels that that” with “considers the”

Please remember when at LANCC meetings, voting it is the person voting own opinion and not the NC board voting on the matter.

Many NCs are in 100% compliance with the Planning 101 training....

This Planning 101 training came FROM NCs dating back to 2013 Working Group.....

Sharon, that depends on the NC

ABLE training is available from cornerstone.

NC Compliance of trainings section of Bylaw or standing rules.

I think the ABLE training is very important and needed. I think the implementation was bad.

The issue with the ever changing mandated lit is that the DONE required list of trainings do not map to most ByLaws are arbitrarily added without NC support. Not to say trainings are required, it’s just the organization, administration and enforcement are the issue, not the requirement of training. ABLE training was recently added to the cache of requirements. It’s not even on our monthly profile yet. Now they are adding a Workplace Harassment training with no reference to where we find this training. To compound matters, Cornerstone is not able to keep up with the requirements as required training as they are not even listed on the site.

Well said Glenn!

DEI = Diversity Equity and Inclusion

Motion to ask the Department of Neighborhood Empowerment to change the wording on the website in regards to anti - Bias training instead of" DeI training" as it is causing confusion

It does specify Diversity, are you saying you do not want Equity and Inclusion to be removed or disagree with that training as well

Bylaws template is only a SUGGESTION. It is up to each NC to decide for itself what it will put in its bylaws. Any NC that looks at DINE suggestions and bylaws mandates is missing one of the fundamental issues we have about NCs.

DONE

Congress meets in 22 minutes, right?

Why are we listening to someone who hasn't even taking the Anti-Bias training and whose NC is overwhelmingly NOT in compliance. Vote NO. We can correct the website wording WITHOUT A MOTION

Yes Congress Planning Committee meeting starts at 1:30 pm

Tony that’s not correct. Most of the language in the Bylaws template are NOT changeable. There are few areas that can be changed.

I agree everyone should take their training...we need to be able to enforce that. DONE could have been more proactive with advice regarding that.

Why are we wasting our time with this? If we want DONE to update their web page, has someone asked? If someone asked and she refused, that's one thing. Until someone asks, this is a waste of our time.

Some are mandated, some are recommended. The section should say which.

I agree with Kay -- this is a waste of time. Ask DONE to correct their website. Period. And move on....

NC needs to add/amend to their bylaws under Training Compliance section all required training including ABLE (letters meaning spelled out) training.

No one is ordering anyone on an NC to "work" for free--that is the individual person's choice on their involvement on an NC..

The amendment to Bylaws needs to be a lot more than adding ABLE see the new Bylaws Template

Whether we vote on this or not, we need to go to the Congress meeting. Could someone please put a link to the Congress meeting in chat? Kay? I never received a notice.

Did anyone else NOT receive a notice from the Congress Planning Committee about this afternoon's meeting?

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/4657525454

Thanks Kay :~)

The meeting is at 1:30. The zoom is in the chat.

Wait! Use this zoom

I ended up finding the February 2 invitation to the Congress meeting. The link is: https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZMocuGvrT0rE9YAxJ7FDjtRKF8Ouh98kk77

https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZMocuGvrT0rE9YAxJ7FDjtRKF8Ouh98kk77

Thank you Kay!!~

Congress of Neighborhoods February Planning Committee MeetingSaturday, February 5, 2022 at 1:30pmTo join the meeting, dial +1 669 900 6833 and enter Meeting ID 875 5873 6192 and then press # or clickhttps://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZMocuGvrT0rE9YAxJ7FDjtRKF8Ouh98kk77

We need to discuss the Anti Bias policy and discrimination issues and cyber bullying deeply , as example Porter Ranch has multiple violations and DONE does nothing about. Let’s agendize this please.

My point is that DONE is using this as an excuse to add additional hours of wasting my time — what will be the next subject they add 10 hours of training?

Perhaps one approach to the problem of bullying is for other people to speak up immediately. I’ve dealt with attempts to bully me over the years and I am sympathetic but don’t see it as a good excuse to abolish traditional freedoms

Please note there is "new" (since last year) Zoom ID for Congress Planning Committee

See you all next month!

And place announcements at the top. I stayed the entire 3 hours to share an announcement and didn't get to share it.

EMAIL: DelReyBoardMember@Gmail.Com

Is there any interest in a no confidence in BONC? Is it something I should spend time on?