My audio is not working in Zoom right now but i have a question out of the ordinary here to make;

What’s the question?

Didn’t Israel destroy Gaza’s airport and create the naval siege before there was a war with Hamas?

i want to say something give me 5 mints please

Thank you Abolishing the apartheid is the only solution one person one vot

please wait till the question and answer portion of the meeting for questions and comments

It's true: the "success rate" of "Western Aliyah" (from the U.S., Europe, Australia, etc.) is low. Except perhaps from France, where many/most Jews are leaving due to antisemitism and likely will not go back

So excluding All Gaza people because of Hamas? Is this not collective punishment?

The Arabs in Israel were Palestinians in Palestine, so is it accurate to say they are “Arabs in our country”?

Yes, Nasser, this is the continuation of Zionist settler-colonial policies by someone who supposedly is progressive…

Hamas is the governing party not the common man and women in the street,did any body ever try to find out what the people of Gaza want?

@Haim.. I am shocked that such a proposal is seen as progressive. It is blanketed apartheid.

I perceive a problem of the Jewish political culture that concerns both the Zionist and the Marxist mentality. The Jewish Israeli opposition continues to play on the note of what has been named by B'etslam and others as 'Jewish Supremacy', as if one lived in an ethno-centric bubble that only differentiated between 'Arabs' and 'Jews' ! This is both racist and Antisemitic since it is not representative of the Jewish People as a whole to be supremacist. Where the majority of Jewish people live is not in the Zionist State but rather in the West amongst the Christian populations and Nation-States. Here again there is a problem of the mainly assimilated Marxist Jewish tendencies that use the common term 'Jews' as if we were to be objectified. This again is labeling a given nationality as atomized objects of derision for being what we are. This comes from a Jewish Bundist perspective by upbringing as a refugee.

Of course, Nasser! The whole excercise of this Confederation is exactly that.

How do we begin to include Hamas so they don't feel they are the only protectors of the Palestinian people?

@Nasser - This is part of the Normalisation agenda of Israel - the dividing of the Palestinians into permanently separate entities. This is an evil agenda!

People in Ramallah hate Gaza?

Listen, people, instead of shooting arrows.

You can listen to an opposite idea by Ehud Ya’ari, another Israeli journalist.

I cannot believe the racist views we are hearing here. If this is the progressive voice of Israel, we can and should expect nothing good from such intellectuals racist of the right.

but listen.

all the fighting and disagreement in the Palestinian comunity comes from the inability to change anything, they feel powerless, thus they argue over what to do!!

Where did you get this data? Genuenly curious.

(About palestanian homes pre 48 still existing)

If you happen to have a link I'd be interested to read more

Yes, me too!

Canada park was three Palestinian villages - I’ve been there. There is photographic evidence of villages removed at gun point

yes and this land can be given back to its owners

It is sad to hear such gifted and influential Israeli author speaking in such simplistic and denuded manner about millions of people in Gaza, or using such stereotypes about all Palestinians.

Sad to say Canada had it wrong to facilitate that wrong against Palestinian villagers

yeah, but the interesting thing is whether any old Palestinian houses are still standing AND are empty

illegitimate child of who?

Ohg… the same west that executed the Jews... of course

Great knowledge of history. Talk about oversimplification and retroactive views

RIght, Leahy Ish Shalom, there is that, that the west almost exterminated us

Exactly. And that does not contradict the rights of Palestinian's to live in peace and dignity.

Yes

But these silly libels don't help anyone...

Many do not know that most Israeli Jews are not originally from Europe. The majority, like the speaker, A.B. Yehoshua have roots in the Middle East and North Africa

This whole "progressive" new notion of Israel as some sort of colonial superpower that acts on behalf of the left is absurd!

Yes! Robin, that's an excellent point too.

*on behalf of the *west

Salaam shalom from Madrid ✌️

Israel is an illigitimate child of west

Israel have good relation with turkey and other countries only for economy not for idiology.

Hi Rizwan. You keep on making this statement. And I ask again: How do you explain that the same Europe that executed millions of Jews is suddenly the "parent" of these Jews that literally fled from them? Also, are you aware that a large percentage of Jews in Israel are in fact refugees from Arab countires *NOT* from anywhere in Europe.

Do you have ANY knowledge of who the Jewish population in Israel is. Where they are from and what led them to come there?

The majority of Israeli Jews are from the Middle East and North Africa, not Europe

It's easy to speak of this form Pakistan with little to no knowledge and feel so self righteous. In fact what you are doing is only giving fuel to the fanatic right wing in Israel.

This Rizwan guy has no knowledge of history or the conflict. He's simply following a religious political religious rhetoric. He's another ignorant

Structure from the ground up is necessary!

Yes. That's frustrating. The same happens elsewhere too. I see it from both sides of the political map in the USA

This conflict has been taken up by the political parties and been exploited well

Sadly we do see people with no knowledge of or stake in the Israeli-Palestinian situation speaking, which does not improve matters

Exactly. People need to be a bit more humble before they add flames to an already bloody conflict.

Thank you!

Important to hear this perspective

Thank you Abraham

thank you for today. sorry I have to leave earlylooking forward to the next zoom

He IS considered progressive in Israel

I think we all need to understand that

if he is considered progressive then there is no hope in finding peace

Maybe not right now....but we have to work with what we have

There are also many Palestinians, I'm sure, who would not agree to a joint Palestinian-Israeli state.

This is a reality check, I think

@Robin: I think if it offered us equality and justice, it would be excepted my most

the palestinians have nothing now and are being disadvantaged and it will continue to be so,they have no alternative than to accept an israeli palestinian state

Well spoken, Olivia

Thanks Olivia

@Olivia- If I can recommend a 4th- The other Arab countries

Important point of Abraham: Eliminate APARTHEID, racism, division

Mr. Yehoshua did use the word apartheid

if Israel spent 10% of their arms budget on making palestinian in the occupied territories and gaza have a better life we would have had peace a long time ago

all this speculation why not have a referundum asking palestinians if they want a 2 state or one state solution?if we are serious about this

I think the Israeli have to be serious about any decision

@shahira

Well said Phil

Principles above personalities

In the U.S., the 50 states don't work together very well right now!

are you kidding 50 states working together??

lol

Most Israelis do not want that