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Thinking Together Before We Teach: Conversations for developing an antiracist approach to Thanksgiving - Shared screen with speaker view
Ella Krasnov
16:50
Ella Krasnov
Rebecca Gautieri
17:16
Rebecca Gautieri Berman Hebrew Academy, Rockville, MD
Anna Hartman
17:19
Hello, everyone!
Anna Hartman
17:28
Introduce yourselves in the chat.
Sharon Sherry
17:30
Sharon Sherry, DC Federation
Rachel Elefant
17:30
Hello, I’m Rachel. I work with three year olds at Temple Sinai preschool in Oakland California.
Lisa Plotkin
17:38
Hi all! Lisa Plotkin, Richmond VA, Weinstein JCC Preschool
Robin Bright
17:40
Robin Bright, Northbrook Illinois
Marci Flynn
17:54
Marci - Oak Park Temple, Oak Park IL
Amy Damast
18:08
Amy Damast, Temple Sinai, Summit, NJ
Elizabeth Gebert
18:10
Hi, Liz Gebert, Stamford Ct JCC
Deborah Lee-Pierce
18:17
Deborah Lee from JCC Heller Chicago
Jenna Turner
18:20
Hi! Jenna Turner from Chicago!
Christine Rocha
19:16
Hello, I'm Christine. work with three years old at Temple Sinai preschool in Oakland, California
Idie Benjamin
19:32
Hi, I am Idie Benjamin. I am a professional development specialist/quality coach at the Child Care Council of Westchester. I worked in Jewish early childhood education for many years.
Anna Hartman
22:17
—Situating the student at the center; reflection on the part of the children and the teacher.
Anna Hartman
23:54
—How we choose to represent the holiday
Anna Hartman
25:56
Take a minute or two to play around the Padlet, to read the ID charts of the colleagues
Anna Hartman
26:04
in the room
Rachel Elefant
26:43
Where do we find the link?
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
26:54
https://padlet.com/staci_rosenthal/3n39rqrqnpkoxatq
Geula Zamist
27:41
a lot about our families
Yasmin Kudrolli
27:52
Identities are so diverse.
Sasha Kopp
28:24
I think it is interesting to see the variety of different personality traits, there are some that I wouldn’t imagine belonging to the same person but they do!
Amy Damast
28:26
combination of nouns (roles?) and adjectives (traits?)
Debbie Deutsch
28:51
A wide range of interests
Christine Rocha
28:55
place/country of origin
Robin Bright
29:00
religion
Matasha Allen
29:12
Nationality is a common trait on many charts. It's interesting to see the variety of backgrounds represented.
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
29:13
I like seeing different handwriting :-). It adds to the identity in some way.
Sasha Kopp
29:14
But it’s also the nature of the categories we create…that there are “conflicting traits”
Robin Bright
29:14
educator/teacher
Matasha Allen
30:04
That's something to think about.
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
30:16
Lots of positive!
Anna Hartman
30:23
One person talked about how their sibling thinks of them
Sasha Kopp
30:32
a lot of relationships
Anna Hartman
30:40
Q What factors shape our identities?
Rachel Elefant
30:42
how people see us
Yasmin Kudrolli
30:47
Interest
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
30:48
hobbies.
Sasha Kopp
30:51
Religion
Rebecca Gautieri
30:51
nationality
Anna Hartman
30:53
Our dispositions
Robin Bright
31:03
family, identification markers
Anna Hartman
31:04
How others see us (in some cases)
Anna Hartman
31:13
Profession, professional role
Robin Bright
33:06
It is often assumed that I know “everything” about being Jewish, because it’s important to me.
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
33:09
I think others might see more positive traits than I do in myself. OR vice versa!
Ellyn Weisz
33:11
babysitter not teacher
carolyn drucker
33:14
others see me more confident than I see myself
Elizabeth Gebert
33:25
I am an introverted introvert but in my role at work I am seen as an extovert
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
33:37
Fascinating, Liz!
Jessie Skiles
33:39
good one Elizabeth
Jackie Arnold
33:48
people assume I am younger than I am, I don't really feel that way
Keith Gaboury
33:50
As a male preschool teacher, sometimes people can look at me with suspicion in a preschool setting
Sasha Kopp
34:06
When I was young people thought I was responsible and mature because I was tall
Sasha Kopp
34:17
They all left me alone with their kids when I was only 11/12
Rachel Elefant
35:48
calculating the risks of walking past the person
Rachel Elefant
36:01
Safe qualities
Jessie Skiles
36:01
they have different risk factors
Jackie Arnold
36:03
safety
Christine Rocha
36:24
putting in categories
jeffrey blumkin
36:32
being cautious
Matasha Allen
37:07
I make these assessments often, especially in an unfamiliar place.
Robin Bright
37:29
their assumptions are stereotypical
Rebecca Gautieri
38:11
Mitigating factors are familiar to them.
Rachel Elefant
38:15
I like the whistling/humming music. Reminds me of a book “Whistling Vivaldi” by Claude Steele about how stereotypes affect us
Anna Hartman (sher/her/hers)
42:17
I am thinking about what is happening in the mind of a child as they meet someone else on the street? How different children see others.
Sasha Kopp
43:17
In New York I see kids creating stereotypes if people are walking or sitting on the street
Sasha Kopp
43:20
Or laying
Anna Hartman (sher/her/hers)
43:22
The news
Rachel Elefant
43:25
Misinterpreted history
Sheri Brown
43:29
all media
Amy Damast
43:30
passed down in families
Jessie Skiles
43:41
what your adults tell you
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
43:47
Stories we hear from our grownups when we are children.
Jessie Skiles
43:57
how your adults act
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
43:59
(What jessie said ;-))
Elizabeth Gebert
43:59
community behavio
Rachel Elefant
44:00
movies/films/books etc
Anna Hartman (sher/her/hers)
44:14
From a place of void—lack of seeing certain kinds of people in our neighborhood, in our lives, etc
Rachel Elefant
45:06
I don’t think stereotypes can be harmless. Even if they are a positive thing (model minority), they create false assumptions and beliefs
Ellyn Weisz
45:12
if you learn something from it not terribly bad
Sasha Kopp
45:13
I think some stereotypes can help us become more considerate of people around us too - thinking about people with physical disabilities
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
45:14
Maybe some stereotypes can be good - like a group of people known for awesome dancing.
Debbie Deutsch
45:18
I have never put thought into the question, "are stereoypes always bad?"
Ellen Carlson
46:09
Even when stereotypes carry a "positive" attribute, they are still limiting an entire group of people to one behavior
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
46:26
Stereotypes aren’t always TRUE for everyone in a grouping. I suppose that’s obvious, but I’m thinking about it in terms of this new question about whether they can be harmless.
Jackie Arnold
46:56
with my little ones, lack of exposure and unfamiliarity and not understanding the differences may cause them to group, but not knowing why
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
47:31
Jessie, I appreciate your comment - it’s still a blanket statement.
Sasha Kopp
47:44
Can negative assumptions be used in a positive way? Vice versa — interesting to think about!
Anna Hartman (sher/her/hers)
50:49
—“cant judge someone based on one snapshot image.” Some social media (and other) lessons there!
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
01:08:38
No problem! It was fun seeing you ;-)
Anna Hartman (sher/her/hers)
01:11:14
love this idea of adding to our identity charts (as teachers, too, and as children)
Rachel Elefant
01:11:51
The influence of outside forces. That they have created negative images that perhaps are internalized which can lead to a negative sense of self
Rachel Elefant
01:12:07
to the point where parents make choices as to what to pass down for fear of stigma etc
Anna Hartman (sher/her/hers)
01:13:08
We will share it at jparadigm.org/webinars
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
01:14:59
Thinking and talking about stereotypes, I see how they become negative when they might not begin negative… perhaps because they become misunderstood. Like the example of “spirit-talking”…. listed in positive stereotypes… might shift to negative or source of sarcasm if it’s not fully understood.
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
01:16:27
(Thanks, Staci - you totally paraphrased it exactly how I meant!)
Staci Rosenthal (she, her)
01:17:05
How has this reading or any of the activities we have gone through tonight connect to what I already thought about identity?
Staci Rosenthal (she, her)
01:17:17
How do they extend or broaden my thinking about the connection between identity and stereotyping?
Staci Rosenthal (she, her)
01:17:28
How do these themes challenge or complicate my thinking as it relates to the connection between identity and the celebrating holidays, like Thanksgiving?
Juliette Landesman
01:19:32
HI
Juliette Landesman
01:20:26
I think it’s important to learn the original Thanksgiving story, yet also make Thanksgiving personal & meaningful for our families.
Staci Rosenthal (she, her)
01:20:57
staci_rosenthal@facinghistory.org
Sasha Kopp
01:21:37
Thank you Staci, so much great content to consider!
Robin Bright
01:22:18
Best ways to integrate this to pre-k, for thanksgiving…
Matasha Allen
01:22:34
I remember that Sesame Street clip.
Sasha Kopp
01:22:52
I think one thing that I am thinking about is how young children put things in categories (I think by nature but maybe we do it for them) what does that mean for how we talk about people. They enjoy creating their identity with concrete identity markers yet not all people with the same identity marker are the same…….anyway LOTS to think about .....
Robin Bright
01:23:23
Thank you to Staci , Anna and Jenna
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
01:23:46
I appreciate the idea that how others see me is different than how I see me.
Lisa Plotkin (she/her)
01:24:16
I love tackling the question of whether stereotypes are good or bad and why!
Idie Benjamin
01:26:31
I think we must approach Thanksgiving with everything we know about developmentally appropriate practice and how young children learn. We don't expect children to have our adult understanding of so much of our lives. Why do we think they need to look at Thanksgiving through our understanding? Can the holiday be meaningful without Pilgrims and "Indians"? What do children want to know and explore about the idea of thankfulness?
Ella Krasnov
01:26:59
Thank you 😊
Keith Gaboury
01:27:37
I think focusing on thankfulness is a great approach
Staci Rosenthal (she, her)
01:27:48
If you want to do this more, definitely be in touch!
Sheri Brown
01:28:07
Thanksgiving = Sukkot writ large?
Matasha Allen
01:28:33
I would love to continue this dialogue.
Juliette Landesman
01:28:45
There are similarities between Sukkot & Thanksgiving
Juliette Landesman
01:29:02
Ie Celebrating the Harvest season
Christine Rocha
01:29:26
Being grateful and thankful is an attitude to have children cultivate all year around (saying Modah Ani dail?)
Matasha Allen
01:30:17
I work in a Sheva program. I want to emphasize gratitude-one of our Sheva lenses- when exploring Thanksgiving, Gratitude is universal.