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Healdsburg Community Services - Parks Design Team Meeting - Shared screen with gallery view
Lacey Scott
33:42
Completely depends on where you’re using the material but I’m a fan of DG for how environmentally friendly it is compared to concrete. And like DG more for biking then gravel and DG is also better for running for your knees and joints.
Chris Herrod
34:36
Lacey -Good points!
Tony Ramsden
35:18
What about wood for boardwalks, bridges
Samantha Marquis
35:55
My children (7 and 4 years old) prefer the DG (they are sitting with me right now) they said it feels like it would hurt less if they fell on it.
Healdsburg Community Services
36:14
Great comments! Thank you.
Kenneth Munson
36:19
Concrete much easier to maintain, keep clean. Textured/impressions ‘can’ look nice. DG i also has a sound quality under-foot and bike tire. Cooler as well. Concrete can be integral color and under shad trees or Structures.
Healdsburg Community Services
36:23
We'll be getting to the boardwalks and bridges
Lacey Scott
36:43
LOL! Tell the kids that’s a very good point Samantha!
Pat Abercrombie
36:44
Gravel does "migrate" a lot and does not seem appropriate in locations where the surface transitions from gravel to grass, for example. Fully contained areas like below a jungle gym with clear raised borders around the boundary would work for gravel.
Dannelle Jenkins
36:57
DG does get slippery when wet and can become “muddy.” We have some at the preschool I work at and we’ve been having issues with children slipping and falling lately.
Tony Ramsden
38:18
Make use of wood as much as possible, rather than metal/plastic
Walter Niederberger
39:32
Sports fields/equipment wear out fast, utilitarian might be best
Pat Abercrombie
40:10
I vote for architectural since it offers opportunities for creativity without being to striking and detract from the natural environment. Traditional starts to look shabby as it ages instead of just aging gracefully.
Lacey Scott
42:24
I agree with Ken that the Artistic nets look VERY sloppy.
Walter Niederberger
43:58
Agree with Danelle: Function over form
Chris Herrod
44:35
I like activated for Montage, Open for Badger
Samantha Marquis
45:10
My children say more nature so we have more peace :-)
leesigler
46:00
The one on the left looks like a city plaza not a park
Lacey Scott
46:06
The Activated promenade is way to urban looking for Healdsburg.
Samantha Marquis
46:07
I like the idea of intermingling the 2. With more sports fields, I'd assume there will be a need for larger groups to gather
Brian Geagan
46:07
Activated scheme is very urban and could be less attractive during HOT summer.
Dannelle Jenkins
46:23
Again…love the natural look of the one on the right.
Dannelle Jenkins
47:40
Does Fletcher have a “play” or child development expert on staff?
Alina Vanoni Collin
48:25
Creative/Adventure
Brian Geagan
48:36
artistic and creative option would invite more diversity of use and would not necessarily be "kid only"!
Healdsburg Community Services
49:09
Hi Dannelle - we don't have someone specific on the team who specializes in child development.
MaryPat Moore
49:36
I agree with the creative as well.
Dannelle Jenkins
49:37
Thanks…just curious.
Chris Herrod
49:41
There are lots of great ideas for play structures that work for disabled kids. Let's include them.
Dannelle Jenkins
50:06
Check out Tatum’s Garden playground in Salinas, CA for an all-inclusive playground.
Pat Abercrombie
50:07
Creative + Adventure/Challenge. The artistic looks too contrived and cerebral for a kids play space.
Samantha Marquis
51:07
Totally agree with various heights
Alina Vanoni Collin
51:20
Agree with Ken on the height ranges
Pat Abercrombie
51:24
The Community Garden design should be done on the side with current community garden users. They know best what community gardeners need.
Alina Vanoni Collin
53:33
Traditional
Brian Geagan
53:49
Sculptural would be interesting --- perhaps using the valley oaks as inspiration...
Dannelle Jenkins
54:06
Solar panels could go on any of them, right?
Samantha Marquis
54:09
I like sculptural
Samantha Marquis
54:27
You can get really creative with it
Tony Ramsden
55:21
Both parks with the proposed enhancements will be great resources, and will be expensive to build; so I suggest going with the lowest cost structures that provide the needed shade.
Pat Abercrombie
56:28
The traditional design almost "requires" concrete surfaces. Agrarian seems to offer more flexibility for ground surfaces, which also seems to soften the transitions to the surroundings.
Lacey Scott
57:03
I’m not a fan of any of these images and think we could do better from an architectural stand point. I like the agrarian idea but would like to see more images. The most important for a pavilion is shade and would like to see lots of trees around the pavilion
leesigler
57:23
Love the go to and see it
Brian Geagan
57:32
I like the "Go and See It" option --- would require a slower traverse through the site
Dannelle Jenkins
57:51
Go to and see allows for more interacting with the surroundings and nature.
Lacey Scott
57:51
Go to and see it...also touch it!
bendurie
58:00
Agree the go and see it is much better and would be fun with kids.
Samantha Marquis
58:19
Go to and see it
Pat Abercrombie
58:20
Go to for sure! Traverse just separates the visitor from the environment. Maybe that one overlook at Badger that we saw in earlier meeting, but otherwise get down on the ground.
MaryPat Moore
58:34
Go & see it for sure
Lacey Scott
58:41
See it touch it experience it
Walter Niederberger
01:01:40
See me, feel me, touch me, heal me - The Who
Chris Herrod
01:05:49
I want to reiterate the need in Badger for a somewhat broad walking track and maintain this use of the park.
Walter Niederberger
01:06:28
Great color palette
MaryPat Moore
01:09:38
I think that style of fencing works at both parks.
Dorothy Reagan
01:10:25
Oh, I Love those play area images
Dannelle Jenkins
01:10:58
Love the river-inspired, but it might take a lot of upkeep and seems like it could be damaged easily.
Tony Ramsden
01:13:07
Idea "A" reminds me of the water play area at the Children's Discovery Museum in Santa Rosa. Can we have a similar area near the island/beach area?
Walter Niederberger
01:13:35
To what degree do paths and walkways in public parks need to be handicap accessible?
Kenneth Munson
01:14:20
Hoping that Syar stops its “industrial’ gravel mining so we can plan / create a better neighborhood adjacent to the River.
Dannelle Jenkins
01:14:40
Love the palette
leesigler
01:14:53
Cement can look like wood, too.
Kenneth Munson
01:14:55
Color Palette is fine/good. Follow nature, can’
Kenneth Munson
01:15:20
…can’t go wrong.
Pat Abercrombie
01:15:34
Looking at the river today, we might want to add some brown to the palette.
Dorothy Reagan
01:15:42
Artistic!
Tony Ramsden
01:15:45
With the metal elements, can we play with the look of the river bridges?
Brian Geagan
01:15:48
Artistic option would be most attractive and have the right feel
Kenneth Munson
01:16:01
Like the Artistic fence where needed. Very nice design.
Chris Herrod
01:16:02
Artistic is well suited to Badger
Samantha Marquis
01:16:04
Artistic
leesigler
01:16:14
You have done a great design from a “bird’s eye” and lends itself to artistic.
MaryPat Moore
01:16:14
Yes, artistic!
leesigler
01:17:28
Need some shade
Dannelle Jenkins
01:17:35
Both styles of picnic areas would be great.
Alina Vanoni Collin
01:17:56
We've only ever used the one inside where the play structure is in the shade
Dorothy Reagan
01:18:22
I prefer to keep the forested area more natural. I worry about litter
Brian Geagan
01:18:28
For bikers and walkers, the forested picnic area B would be more useful
Samantha Marquis
01:19:21
Forested
Kenneth Munson
01:19:41
Full sun and an “exposed” feeling probably affect the use. Would get more use if there were trees or shade structure.
Mindy Kiff
01:20:46
The presented color palette is spot on! I like the artistic element for any fencing/benches, etc. Forested picnic areas would get more use than grassy sun due to heat & wetness during different seasons.
Dorothy Reagan
01:21:15
Can we have both? Incredibly beautiful
Pat Abercrombie
01:21:45
Forested for me. Can't see people using the open lawn unless there is an event drawing them there.
Alina Vanoni Collin
01:22:31
Forested Play areas - not a fan of the water ones. If I want to have them a complete mess and sandy, we can go to the beach. If I'm taking them to the park of a bit I'd rather avoid the wet kid/sand filled car
Kenneth Munson
01:23:39
These seem more European in context (not destroyed after hours). You could see if Russian River Keeper has any interest with “learning feature? Like it…don’t know if practice.
leesigler
01:23:50
Need some senior friendly paths
Dorothy Reagan
01:24:47
I like the floating particularly when things are muddy or wet, feel like it protects nature from being trampled.
Alina Vanoni Collin
01:24:53
For Badger I think the floating makes sense with the mud and poison oak
Tony Ramsden
01:24:55
Floating is more usable in wet months
Brian Geagan
01:24:59
Sure --- good with both. Maybe floating where some foliage should be protected. And yes, poison oak!
Kenneth Munson
01:25:06
Only thing that keeps it “at bay’ is removing IT!!!
Walter Niederberger
01:25:22
Floating works in all seasons
Dorothy Reagan
01:25:55
That curved timber pavilion is gorgeous!
Pat Abercrombie
01:25:56
Footpaths - some of both? Floating out toward the river and at-grade through the forested areas. Bit of liability issue with the floaters, stepping off the side accidentally?
Kenneth Munson
01:27:19
Maintenance of ”Industrial” structural is easiest (Flood-Proof).
Tony Ramsden
01:27:32
Put the timber pavilion designs on metal/rock bases to lift them above flood waters
bendurie
01:29:15
the industrial looks to be the most practical.
Brian Geagan
01:29:27
Industrial or half arch are nice.
bendurie
01:29:57
YES - bathrooms at Badger = very important
Pat Abercrombie
01:30:00
Agree with Mark the timber pavilion is beautiful but costly to maintain and not flood-friendly. Industrial would be most practical.
Tony Ramsden
01:30:06
Any way to reflect local traditional designs like barns or hop kilns, etc?
bendurie
01:31:17
with young kids, we appreciate areas that are fenced in as well
Walter Niederberger
01:31:17
Is the idea of a concert pavilion still in play? If so, then the hauled rounded timber pavillon
MaryPat Moore
01:31:57
I agree the bathrooms need to be more accessible to activities.
Pat Abercrombie
01:32:01
Love Tony's idea of the barn/hop kiln design elements in the pavilion areas.
Walter Niederberger
01:32:21
sorry - self correct - “then rounded timber pavilion”
Tony Ramsden
01:34:15
If large groups come to performances, will need more parking or shuttle bus services from parking areas
Kenneth Munson
01:37:10
Can/should be limited to ‘small’ venue performance. Some folks like ‘small’ group performance.
Brian Geagan
01:37:59
I think the elevated crossings are over-engineered for this site. Site features do not justify bridges.
bendurie
01:38:01
elevated - the interactive is a nightmare for toddlers
Mindy Kiff
01:38:26
Interactive please!
Kenneth Munson
01:38:56
Elevated ‘with’ a path/access to the water below.
Dannelle Jenkins
01:39:17
Windsor Town Green has interactive and it seems to work well.
Lacey Scott
01:39:38
I like both crossings
Dorothy Reagan
01:39:38
I think the elevated seems like it would be far more expensive
Pat Abercrombie
01:39:50
I echo Brian's comment above...is there really enough distances to cross to warrant elevated crossings? They have to be much more expensive.
Tony Ramsden
01:40:17
Don't forget that the small creek will be dry almost all the time
Kenneth Munson
01:41:31
“elevated” crossing could be short, like a flat-car bridge. Not spanning the Russian River (yet!)
Kenneth Munson
01:43:04
Agree…barking dogs not ‘calming’ while gardening.
bendurie
01:50:01
thanks so much for all of your hard work on these plans
Kenneth Munson
01:50:47
Great Work. Keep it UP!!
Dannelle Jenkins
01:50:50
Thank you!