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Israeli Literature with Rachel - Shared screen with speaker view
Elizabeth
38:59
Wonderful Israeli film “Igor and the Crane’s Journey”
Gail Levine and Bob Fried
40:14
to Rabbi Linda Henry Goodman- Shalom! Happy to see you!- Gail Levine-Fried
Sheldon Dorph
41:09
hello from shelly dorph to Rachel and others
Jackie Ellenson
41:35
hi shelly!
Jan Frisch
42:41
Do ear buds work for the sound or do we need regular headphones?
Randi Brenowitz
42:51
we are never bored in your class Rachel
Elizabeth
43:11
I should have said the film is about a family who leaves Russia and makes aliya to Israel.
Asaf Rabi
43:23
Ear buds should work!
e.b.
51:30
bravo
Erica Sokoloff
51:42
Gorgeous:). Todah!
Ayala Weinberg
51:46
Todah for the musica!
Gail's iphone4105043416
51:55
fabulous!
Mitch Slomiak
52:04
Extraordinary!!!
Randi Brenowitz
52:05
wonderful. thanks
Dorothea Dorenz
52:05
oded’s last name?
diane allan
52:34
best ever! Thank you.
Asaf Rabi
52:35
Oded Melchner
Jan Frisch
53:59
Loved it!
Marilyn Fogel
54:32
The sound is not so good today. Would everyone please turn off your video? That sometimes helps.
Dorothea Dorenz
54:39
wonderful playing!
Denah S Bookstein
54:53
Rachel the writing is very small. can you put it up in parts?
Lawrence Kaplan
59:56
Reminds me of Chekhov
Wendy Liebow
01:02:00
The title reminds me of line from Yeats: “Tread softly because you tread on my dreams.”
Nitza Tsur
01:03:13
How old was Michael Zatz whe he emigrated to Israel
Lawrence Kaplan
01:03:15
Didn't Rachel have a poem about the Russian landscape?
Viktoria Dorosz
01:04:19
This is what the Oz’s mother was longing for in The Tale of Love and Darkness
Mitch Slomiak
01:04:49
Viktoria, I was about to type in the same exact comment about Tales of Love and Darkness!
Viktoria Dorosz
01:05:15
Great minds… ;-)
Nachama/Chumi Kanner
01:05:21
today is the 39th anniversary of our Aliyah
Ed and Shelley Grossman
01:05:32
Childhood memories never leave you (even if bitter sweet).
Yael Gott
01:05:41
Going back to a time in your life
Viktoria Dorosz
01:06:49
Where did Nachama come from?
Dorothea Dorenz
01:12:18
was the poem written n Hebrew and in Russian?
Lawrence Kaplan
01:13:23
I think I confused Rachel with Leah Goldberg
Heather
01:16:38
curious why Michael didn't write the poem in Russian
Viktoria Dorosz
01:16:52
How old was M when he came to Israel?
Ayala Weinberg
01:17:03
what is actual translation of dacha. ... summer home?!
Ayala Weinberg
01:17:20
I agree with dr Lawrence
Viktoria Dorosz
01:17:33
Dacha is a small summer house, wooden, simple
Heather
01:18:51
not necessarily small and simple. Some are quite large and luxurious!
Viktoria Dorosz
01:19:55
Leah G was in her twenties when she came to Israel
Linda Henry Goodman
01:20:13
Michael
Dorothea Dorenz
01:20:25
What other themes are you focusing on in your poetry now?
Linda Henry Goodman
01:21:23
Michael's story is so characteristic of the disorientation that comes with immigration.
Linda Henry Goodman
01:22:45
What I mean by "disorientation" is really more of a sense of displacement. It manifests itself throughout several generations. I think we probably all know that dynamic......
Denah S Bookstein
01:23:07
name of song?
Gail Levine and Bob Fried
01:23:52
virtuoso fingerwork!-Gail Levine
Ed and Shelley Grossman
01:23:53
Does Oded have any recordings?
nurit tuch
01:24:34
nurit.born in Israel and lives now in Canada,I niss Israel emensly. I left the country bur the country is still in me.....
Sarah Elpern
01:25:56
Wow, exquisite!
Sharon Packer
01:26:03
I made aliya at the age of 15 from the northeastern US. I loved the way Israelis knew every centimeter of the country and were in love with the landscape and climate including deserts and rocks and heat. I fell in love with toiled land from living on a kibbutz in the Galilee and it instilled in me a love working with rich soil. When I went back to the States, 6 years later, I landed in Philadelphia and was amazed by the tall green trees followed by the colorful autumn. I had the sensation that I could breathe for the first time in 6 years. In subsequent stays in Israel I came to appreciate the beauty of and awe of the desert- but the climate and landscape of the northeast, still resonates for me more deeply than the landscape of Israel.
Michael Thorner
01:26:18
The music would be better shorter.
Harriet
01:26:30
This music fills my soul.
diane allan
01:26:39
hypnotic exquisite such musical mastr!
Lynnie Mirvis
01:26:42
torah rabba
Yael Gott
01:26:48
Magnificent!
Violet
01:26:48
Brravo!!
Ruth Hilliard
01:26:57
beautiful music!
Jan Frisch
01:27:05
Fantastic!
Rosemary Linsider
01:27:08
Fantastic playing! Kol HaKavod!
Ayala Weinberg
01:27:11
nifla
Michal
01:27:11
Bravo!
Lynnie Mirvis
01:27:12
so moved—I felt like I was on a journey of connection to a faraway time
Elisheva Edelson
01:27:13
Bravisimo!!!
Jon Tepper in Tucson
01:27:14
A delightful musical interlude!
Mara
01:27:16
bravo!
Mitch Slomiak
01:27:24
Absolutely wonderful !!
Joan Borkow
01:27:48
Lovely music.
Karin Adelman
01:28:59
Thanks for your heartfelt words Sharon Packer.
Elizabeth
01:31:22
Oded, your guitar playing is wonderful!
Viktoria Dorosz
01:32:04
Super cute group of kids, which is Misha and which is Vitya?
Ayala Weinberg
01:32:34
I don’t see the picture?!
Elizabeth
01:32:54
Adorable kids!
Ed and Shelley Grossman
01:32:56
Download the file.
Suzanne Levin
01:33:05
I can't see a picture.
Mel Barenholtz
01:33:16
Nor do I see the picture
Ayala Weinberg
01:33:36
no file
oded
01:33:37
hi everyone, thank you for your comments, you are welcome to visit my youtube channel just write "oded melchner" i have a new album coming up and a new website as well, for now you can visit my hebrew site www,guitaracademy.co.il it contains music videos and you can contact me via this website, also i have several albums available on spotify, apple music etc.
Viktoria Dorosz
01:33:49
you need to click on it once, wait to download and click again
Mel Barenholtz
01:33:52
What file?
Helen Schwartz
01:33:56
What are agorot?
Viktoria Dorosz
01:34:03
Pennie
Viktoria Dorosz
01:34:07
pennies
Mara
01:34:14
where is the picture of VITA?
Helen Schwartz
01:34:15
thanks
Suzanne Levin
01:34:57
smallest Israeli coin in value
Viktoria Dorosz
01:35:22
Vitya is a diminutive of Vitaliy and Viktor (like Misha diminutive of Michail)
A Ginsburg
01:35:33
No picture. Is there a link instead?
Lynnie Mirvis
01:36:01
in the file—then you have to click on zoom to get back in
Lawrence Kaplan
01:36:35
Essay seems not so much about Vita as about Misha's perception of Vita
Mel Barenholtz
01:37:10
where is the file for the picture?
Lawrence Kaplan
01:39:52
navoch is more confused than embarrassed
Dorothea Dorenz
01:41:22
how did you start writing poetry and when ?
Ayala Weinberg
01:41:55
which city did you start in in Israel
Linda Henry Goodman
01:42:46
Like Moreh Nevuchim. Guide for the Perplexed.
Suzie Lampert
01:43:05
That’s just perfect!!
Mj Levison
01:44:55
maybe Navi has isslightly disoriented
Mj Levison
01:45:05
Navi has
Susan Shevitz
01:45:24
What was your parents’ motivation for leaving?
Mj Levison
01:45:29
navoch
Susan Shevitz
01:47:34
In the 1970’s there were Russian Jews who were activists who wanted the freedom to leave for Israel. Was your family involved with that?
Martin Bobrowsky
01:47:50
in Yiddish, Zatz means sentence as a sentence in a written work - appropriate for a writer. did you consider changing your family name to a Hebrew one
Ayala Weinberg
01:48:36
in late 80 s we had large group of Russian immigrants come to our city in USA
Nachama/Chumi Kanner
01:48:42
depending on context, there’s definitely an element of embarrassment to the word navoch...sometimes a very strong embarrassment
nira malis
01:49:33
more like
Ayala Weinberg
01:49:33
jewish Russians I watched their integration was hard in the beginning now they are second and third generation
nira malis
01:50:11
more like don't cut me off
Viktoria Dorosz
01:52:08
Standing on one foot - a nice allusion
Suzanne Levin
01:52:31
standing on one foot like Hillel
Lawrence Kaplan
01:53:26
Like the convert whom Shammai cut off while Hillel heard him out.
Linda Henry Goodman
01:54:12
One of my friends who made Aliyah several years ago from the US characterized another American oleh whom we know in this way: "He speaks English with Hebrew words." That is to say, his Hebrew lacks the sophistication and colloquial understanding that a "native" would have.
Susan Shevitz
01:54:20
When I was in Russia in the 70’s to meet some refuseniks and dissidents I was shocked that some of them wore so many military and other regalia and metals they wore. The older ones were eager to tell us what they had down in WWII both in army and for some as partisans. This picture reminded me of them
Dorothea Dorenz
01:55:15
poetry is or was very important in Russia, much more so than in the U.S. Did your parents recite and read poetry to you?
Lawrence Kaplan
01:56:37
Luggage is substitute for landscape.
Gail Levine and Bob Fried
01:56:51
the need for a sense ofcontinuity-Gail Levine
Suzie Lampert
01:57:43
I’m looking at items from my grandparents that came from Hungary right now in my dining room - it makes it home
stanleykay
01:57:44
Sort of reminds me of when my parents bought apartment in Jerusalem which they used part of year for 26 years. the amount of things they shipped from NY, as had just sold big house for a smaller NY
Lawrence Kaplan
01:58:18
Russians greatly contributed to the flourishing of classical music in Israel.
Lynnie Mirvis
01:58:31
all the things contain the memories and the stories and the connection to the past and to family
Ed and Shelley Grossman
01:59:35
But the objects--like a piano--are not as powerful a memory as the sound (music) and the taste (food)
Martin Bobrowsky
01:59:40
interestingly the name Zrulik is the yiddish form of Israel as a name - very appropiate
stanleykay
02:00:02
c apartment. When they sold, not so sensibly they shipped most everything back, except the appliances, and the upright piano, as had baby grand in NYC including duplicate lp records, even a huge Lalique vase, which cracked. Not very sensible, but all had significance, family links, for them
Julia Gilden
02:00:47
I love that these classes are stretching out. It’s a lovely mix and most of us are at home these days. Thank you so much!
Julia Gilden
02:01:25
And the music. Very evocative. Thank you Oded!
Sarah Elpern
02:01:26
I agree. It's wonderful. Thank you, Rachel!
Elisheva Edelson
02:01:39
Love that piece. Toda!
Sarah Elpern
02:01:39
And Oded!
stanleykay
02:02:21
For some people, pianos are as imp as the music. I have the Steinway piano still my grandparents gave my father when parents were engaged! It was him and hopefully, son will one day have a home for it.
Mitch Slomiak
02:02:22
Todah Rabbah, Oded!!
Linda Henry Goodman
02:02:30
Bravo Oded!
Gail Levine and Bob Fried
02:02:33
arich program that deepened my understanding of the immigrant experience-Gai;l Levine
Carol Ducak
02:03:13
Michael- I loved your poetry, prose and comm
Violet
02:03:28
Thank you so much!
Gail's iphone4105043416
02:03:34
one of the best sessions yet - thank you so much
Sharon Packer
02:03:35
Michael, Rachel tells us that all Israeli children know the stories of the Hebrew Bible (Tanach) Did you learn these stories in your Israeli school or were you too old or too limited in your knowledge of Hebrew to learn these stories? Do you think that for the most part olim from the former Soviet Union missed out on this part of the educational system?
Lynnie Mirvis
02:03:37
Thank you so much Rachel—so wonderful to meet the poet who wrote this heartfelt poetry and the music to go with it.
monafishbane
02:03:37
Michael, your poetry touched my heart.
Elisheva Edelson
02:03:50
Michael, I identified in many ways with you
monafishbane
02:03:53
Oded, your music lightened my day!
Mitch Slomiak
02:04:06
Todah Rabbah, Michael. Thank you for helping me/us understand the unique challenges that Jews experience in Israeli who were emigrating from the former Soviet Union
Elisheva Edelson
02:04:39
Thank you so much Rachel! You are the best!
Rosemary Linsider
02:04:50
Michael, Your poetry is wonderful! Keep publishing! Rachel, thank you so much as always.
Joan Borkow
02:04:52
Thank you to Michael for his poems and his reflections.
Audrey Asher
02:04:55
Michael, your poetry is very touching. Thank you for sharing your thoughts today as well as your poetry.
Paul and Mazal Nisner
02:05:19
תודה על ערב מעניין ומהנה
nily sofer
02:05:40
he was only 6 years old when he came ti israel!!!
Varda Farber
02:06:06
while the details are different, the experience of immigrating to a new land and culture as a child it's pretty universal.
Sarah Elpern
02:06:16
In another life, I studied the Soviet Union and my husband was arrested in front of the Russian embassy, before we met, in 1970. I feel like his poetry is really meaningful to me.
htigay
02:06:23
This was an uplifting session! Thank you, Rachel, Michael, and Oded!
Julia Gilden
02:08:43
Jews carry the past in words. Good that we have poets to fill in some gaps.
Lawrence Kaplan
02:08:56
Glad to be back, As always, programs are well thought out and very rich.
Jon Tepper in Tucson
02:09:03
Thank you, Michael, for sharing your writings and innermost feelings with us. Also,
Jon Tepper in Tucson
02:09:41
...thanks to Rachel for inviting Michael to this class!
Viktoria Dorosz
02:16:25
Linda, rememberr they had a one room apt in town! the same misunderstanding works the other way: people from Eastern Europe thought anyone who has a house - as opposed to cramped apt - must be very rich!
Dorothea Dorenz
02:16:33
its not that they had a rotten life so much as they were forbidden to practice as Jews, have Jewish schools, etc
Shirley Cirlin
02:18:08
What does Michael do in everyday life - I imagine writing poetry is not a full time occupation
stanleykay
02:18:28
When I am out west visiting in Houston, Tulsa, flat, dry mostly and come back east, I feel same re the trees and green! Galveston beach is IMHO ugly compared to Maine and Cape, though love the informality v. New England
Dorothea Dorenz
02:18:56
knowing Torah stories is not the same as knowing who is gong on in synagogue service.
Linda Henry Goodman
02:19:07
Thank you Dorothea and Viktoria. That is very helpful. But there are Russian Jews I know (many) who had no relationship with Judaism, and barely knew that they were Jewish, let alone that they were forbidden from practicing. So while your observations are certainly valid, I think it's not the whole story.
stanleykay
02:20:05
I’ve heard my immigrant grandmother got piano to be sure my father and sister learned to become cultured Americans, and they did! Father played Chopin at his Bar Mitzvah and as youth was at first Gershwin performance of rhapsody in Blue in NYC
Dorothea Dorenz
02:20:26
After the Russian Revolution the Jewish Schools were destroyed, synagogues were burned. And sadly, this was carried out by Jews who were Bolsheviks!!!
stanleykay
02:20:37
That side of family life long musical.
Harriet
02:22:48
This discussion explained two components of my life--why we all have pianos and why my grandfather purchased country homes for all his children. He was the immigrant from Russia. Thank you for giving me two pieces of my puzzle!
Suzanne Levin
02:24:49
there was a joke that the Russians who got off the plane without a violin must have played the piano.
stanleykay
02:24:58
Wasn’t Israel Philharmonic founded mostly with Russian immigrant musicians? I recall a wonderful movie re the founding
Julia Gilden
02:26:19
why embarrassing?
Dorothea Dorenz
02:26:59
No it was formed by those saved from Europe by a famous violinist whose name I am not remembering: He went all over Europe and chose the musicians he sent to Israel to save them from the Nazis.
Linda Henry Goodman
02:27:45
There are a number of Russian-born cantors in the United States who studied at Hebrew Union College School of Sacred Music. Several of them made Aliyah with their families when they were young, and then came to the US. Wonderful cantors. And -- in general they also play the piano!
Ruti
02:27:56
The Israeli Philharmonic was established in 1936. Lest we think there was no music in Israel before the immigration of 1991... well, correction
Leonie Kramer
02:28:06
Bronislaw Huberman
Dorothea Dorenz
02:29:52
yes thanks!
Jon Tepper in Tucson
02:31:13
Aliyah vs. olim, reminds me of the old joke 1-liner: I love humanity; it’s people I can’t stand.
Linda Henry Goodman
02:33:31
If there were Jews in Eretz Yisrael, there was music, without any doubt!
Suzie Lampert
02:35:30
Thanks so much for a wonderful learning opportunity
Viktoria Dorosz
02:36:32
One misses a place where one was young, it’s really not that surprising, surely?
Ed and Shelley Grossman
02:36:51
But wasn't the experience in Russia also include non-Jewish friends, food, etc.
Ed and Shelley Grossman
02:38:19
Wonderful session with Misha and the music!
Toby and Flo
02:38:32
Thank you for a very interesting session
Elizabeth
02:39:25
Thank you Rachel for inviting Michael and the musicians. They have added so much!
Michal
02:40:12
Thank you for Michael’s poems and for inviting him!
Michal
02:41:37
Yom huledet sameach!
Viktoria Dorosz
02:42:16
happy.birthday Ilana !
stanleykay
02:42:53
Dorothea- I misspoke, meant immigrant musicians, from Europe. thanks for correcting and reminding re the movie and origins of Philharmonic
marty stempel
02:44:04
Todah rabbah, Michael! Rachel, a day without your class is an empty day indeed!
Erica Sokoloff
02:44:46
What a special class. Todah Raba!