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Did the PM’s “windy” intervention help or hinder what we are trying to achieve in the region?
Great that we have NG, Ofgem and SZC with us today. We are really sorry/ disappointed that scottish Power declined to take part - as we collectively seek joined-up solutions.
I think it was a little misleading, I've spent most of the last two weeks explaining to people that whilst offshore wind will support our domestic/home energy requirements, we still need to generate another two thirds or so to power industry, hospitals, schools, universities, electrified transport etc
SPR’s attitude is not untypical of many of the energy majors. No doubt this will be debated anon.
Feedback from the first two roundtables included an urgent need for the energy majors to get together with NG and Ofgem to find a more “coherent” and unified approach to energy in the region
Don’t forget Cadent, the water companies and transport planning authorities, as well of course as UKPN.
Yes. Thanks. Challenge is how we bring these groups together in a meaningful way and not “just another” talking shop!
I heard a great comment last week that the many people focussed on energy transition should remain aware of the wider context of sustainability eg amenity biodiversity - and of course social factors
Presumably post-Covid staycations will be beneficial to tourism opportunities? Or is it the view that East Suffolk might have attracted more overseas visitors?
Rodney - a point that Ian Wright, CEO of Food & Drink Federation made yesterday - was that visitors are as important a stakeholder group as residents…
Jonathan - sorry to interrupt you. Do post your thoughts on offshore ring main here..
Question for Rebecca, Pete and Graeme - is it possible to re-start/ kick-start conversations about a joined-up approach for on-shoring wind?
Offshore Wind operations & maintenance is increasing! Moving from c.£340m now to around £1.3bn over the coming 5-10 years as the current pipeline is built out.
Fully agree with Michael - we need sustainable, quality jobs, The Supply chain requirement for a CfD does not properly embrace this, and we need implementable commitments specified against local projects. Followed by ex post audit.
Sizewell B shows a lack of long-term legacy? 750 people work there - they all live within 25 miles of the station. What about all the apprentices there from Suffolk? I've worked in Leiston for a decade and genuine locals are supportive of the sector.
world class centres - Cefas in Lowestoft - c. 300 highly qualified marine scientists operating from there
And one of the reasons it has remained in Lowestoft has been the work it undertakes on Sizewell
Centres of excellence seems like a sensible model - from education to delivery
Great example of the energy ecosystem Tom
Huge new opportunities for local skills development for hydrogen supply chains. We have a track record of development for offshore and we can add to that all of the demand-side activity eg building and running refuelling stations, introducing and servicing hydrogen trucks and buses etc etc
what does 'working very hard' actually mean?
My understanding from the NGESO project is that NGESO are not looking at serious investment in the onshore network
Perhaps for national politicians who are not sure what to do, we need to "bring to life" practical solutions with demonstrator projects. The smallest projects which exemplify solutions which can be rolled out nationally and which appeal to local people and visitors, provide huge local leverage.
I see Tom has adn
Has admitted that SZB has not delivered for Leiston. Leiston is not a boom town
the current ESO study is looking at whether an integrated offshore network makes sense and a CBA associated with that. Not onshore investment per se (though an offshore integrated network impacts on onshore investment needs.
Ng eso doesn’t have to deliver the infrastructure so you need both camps of national grid
No Michael - you described it as a Boom Town so as to imply it is experiencing a bust. The Town's economy services Sizewell B - go and have a look.
There is significant agreement her e- the challenge seems to be in integration (of thinking not just energy) and deliverability
all service people that we have to deal with along the coast seem to live in Leiston. They are not engineers at Siz B!
National Grid is a single organisation it needs to get its act together internally. You have to look at offshore and onshore holistically. The failure to do so has taken us to where we are today.
We are talking a lot about the small number of large issues eg SZ, Bacton, offshore. We also have many opportunities of large numbers of smaller activities - distributed and centralist energy thinking together.
Ref hydrogen - part of SZC green construction strategy we are investigating hydrogen demonstrator for fuel for bussing
That is due to the housing stock in Leiston. Have you looked into the young people from Leiston who came out of the High School, became engineers, work at the station and then moved out of town?
Tom would you describe Leiston as prosperous?
To Tom’s point - addressing the housing crisis is key for attracting young people and skills. came up yesterday and Monday also
Maybe new work/ live/ skills hubs - suggested by Beth at UEA
Michael worth been aware that the National Grid ESO is actually legally separated part of the business - therefore independent from the other parts of the business. We are however feeding in views on the need to coordinate onshore to align with their offshore work
No but I wouldn't suggest Sizewell B - or A - has had a negative influence and I would certainly say it has been positive. It has been an important source of local employment at all levels: we cannot all be engineers. Look into Leiston's history and the challenges it's faced as a post-industrial town. Look at education provision, access to FE (rural transport) and also look at migration out of the town - quite often of young local people who became engineers and operators at the nuclear stations and moved to more of the surrounding villages. the diversity of employment opportunities presented by the sector has helped the town - particularly so after the closure of Garretts.
I may be out on amounts, but EDF could be the cornerstone investor in an education fund or a regional development fund, if it wanted to.
National Grid is one group which owns the various divisions. You have allowed current regulation to get in the way of investing for the long term.
I’m up for hosting a session on “better” regulation and joined-up thinking, if others would like to join :-)
I agree we need a much longer term view, which requires brave anticipatory investments (query how the risk of those should be placed). However, one of the big difficulties in investing for the long term, is forecasting perfectly what the long term needs.
I'd urge anyone interested to read the Environmental Statement in the Sizewell C Development Consent Order application to get the facts about coastal erosion and the Sizewell section of the Suffolk coast. I'll send the online reference to Robert after.
Happy to are any Further Reading. Let us know what you’ve got!
Michael - OK - agree with you on ambition. Let's be ambitious and plan for a positive legacy IF it goes ahead.
Thank you for inviting me. All very relevant. It has been a privilege.
happy to engage bilaterally
Thanks very much for inviting me, it’s been a really interesting discussion.
thank you for the conversation.
Really good conversation. Well done to Robert and the team! Be good to keep it going
If anyone wants to know more about the work I’m doing around Hydrogen East or local market innovation, give me a ring: 07900092524. Thanks for the stimulating discussion.