Leaking Havoc: Refrigerants, a Climate Conversation - Shared screen with speaker view
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Larry Ulfik, freeze drying technology consultant, shepherd, and practitioner of transition
Are there $$$ incentives for proper disposal/recycling?
Central Hudson and other utilities will give you $50 for a working refrigerator.
A Federal Program ideally -
Time for American Sustainable Business Council, CERES, and all ESG inclusive investment firms to engage with Emerson, Carrier, Whirlpool, Trane, etc as well as Retailers to make changes OR divest
How do EIA's ratings match up with stores that are compliant with the EPA Green Chill program?
Best practices for supermarkets to monitor refrigerant leaks and electricity usage must have some financial benefit to the stores in terms of reducing refrigerant and electricity costs. To what extent does implementing those best practices pay for itself, and to what extent should good government policies incentivize implementing best practices?
Margaret Perkins 350NYC
when you contact supermarkets which level of management or office are you dealing with.
For a new market -Are there cost comparisons for installing HFC free technology in a market vs HFC equipment
Margaret Perkins 350NYC
if we as consumers have an issue with supermarket freezers, who should we contact? the store always says they have no control over the selection of refrigerants
Central Hudson's refrigerator recycling rebate program is for residential refrigerators/freezers, so not applicable to supermarkets. Rebate is now $100! but must be a working refrigerator. Good to publicize! https://www.cenhud.com/my-energy/save-energy-money/residential-incentives/refrigerator-and-freezer-recycling/
Costs Not nescessrily to replace - but cost of a systems but for a new market
Any current or upcoming legislation that citizens can encourage Congress to support to increase incentives for better new units; maintenance and recycling?
How does the proposed R4 program compare to an Extended Producer Responsibility Program scheme for refrigerants?
Somebody told me that the low GWP refrigerants although better for the environment pose human health risks. I have not heard this from anyone else and have not gotten to ask the person for more information. Have the speakers heard of this? I'll note that this conversation was in relation to residential heat pumps not supermarket equipment.
IF electrifying heating with heat pumps usually involves substituting a heat pump for an A/C unit, why would this greatly increase HFC leakage? How many buildings do not have A/C? (including window units)
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Can this presentation be distributed. This was really great and I would like to share them with others.
Also, window unit ACs are very common, and they are factory sealed and rarely leak
Is that so - old window ACs rarely leak?
proper end of life disposal is an issue for window unit ACs
are only air source heat pumps effected? The geo thermal heat pumps use a water based
what are the typical responsible end of life options for people in the Hudson Valley?
Senator Kaminsky has a bill for extended producer responsibility. Anyone know if it includes refrig. And end of life issues?
Do DIY heat pump kits have any mechanism to make sure they are not installed properly... there seem to be a lot of heat pump kits and I would think they would lead to a large risk for HFC leakage.
Say more about the jobs in refrigerant or equipment recycling, maintenance etc
Will the new refrigerant rules just singed into law finally lead to European air to water heat pumps finally being available in the US?
On political action: It would be great if you wrote to the Climate Action Council, responsible for making a plan to implement NY's climate legislation (CLCPA). Ask them to include refrigerant management in the scope of the CLimate Action Council's plans, including leak reduction, extended producer responsibilty , and phasing in natural refrigerants. They have been neglecting this area for the most part. Write to ClimateAct@dec.NY.gov
Dorian Fluvio currently Kaminsky's extended producer responsibility bill does not include refrigerants
email: email@example.com to check in with New Yorkers for Cool Refrigerant Management
Link here to sign up for EIA updates: https://www.climatefriendlysupermarkets.org/join-us
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What support is available to supermarkets that wish to improve their refrigerant management?
Smaller chains may make it easier to find a descision maker who is amenable to action
North American Sustainable Refrigeration Council: https://nasrc.org/
I have to leave but thank you for the presentation! Very informative
I know 2 people who have recently DIY installed heat pumps, although I strongly suggested they not do that.
Working with transcritical CO2 and lower gwp refrigerants requires expertise that many technicians lack. Some of them are more flammable than the higher gwp options and there are major safety concerns.There is no widespread certification program for technicians in NY. Also, very few young people are entering the field and the skilled technicians are aging out. Is your organization pushing for a statewide certification?
On Heat pumps, there is a large cost for installation, so I bet many people are trying DIY
Thank you! Very helpful explanation.
Are there makes/models of mini-split heat pumps (for residential) that have more responsible refrigerant gas?
I understand that Delgado is now Chair of the Ag. Committee and is also committed to working on Energy related issues and Green Energy (I hope)
This was great and very informative Thank you.
Thank You ! Great Presentation !!!! Stay Safe & WEel, lg
Thank you, excellent presentation