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Michelle Fletcher
01:03:40
sending love and gratitude for the ways you show up
Michelle Fletcher
01:03:55
@emily
*Christopher Morgan*
01:07:47
What are the ways you see the personal entering your work and how can that foster social transformation?
Michelle Fletcher
01:09:01
werkkkk Kamilah 💜💜💜
*Christopher Morgan*
01:13:55
Current Questions: What are ways you see or hope to see the arts community listening and responding?
Kristopher McDowell
01:18:20
I hope to see more co-leadership. I too hope that institutions will take a moment to re-start and re-focus for a more equitable future.
Alison McNeil
01:19:30
New metrics are absolutely necessary
Candace Thompson-Zachery
01:19:46
Yes Alison we have been talking about this
Alison McNeil
01:19:50
Thank you SO much for naming this. This is the work that is so tough to introduce!
*Bill Bragin*
01:19:59
That's a huge question... do all the organizations which are currently closed NEED to reopen? And why? Or why not?
*Christopher Morgan*
01:20:44
Current Question: What might be the NEW metrics of success be in a new future?
Kristopher McDowell
01:20:47
Yes Bill, and how can we ALL participate in that conversation?
Candace Thompson-Zachery
01:20:48
Can someone the name Emily just shared ?
Alison McNeil
01:20:51
It starts by telling this truth out loud! Silence when funders ask the questions only supports and old narrative
Scott Stoner
01:21:01
Success not defined by donors - people you think you cannot survive without their strings-attached ($) ideas
Alison McNeil
01:22:36
Will you ask funders to address how they’ve tried to bully evaluators to tell narratives that make them look good?
Candace Thompson-Zachery
01:22:56
Ooooo Alison
Kaisha Johnson
01:24:10
Yes! As with systems (and the institutions that uphold and perpetuate them), every organization will not need to continue to exist. The sooner we recognize this, the sooner we can get on with the real work that needs to be done.
Yanira Castro
01:27:36
@candance Thompson-Zachary I think you are asking about Edgar Villanueva, author of “Decolonizing Wealth.” https://www.decolonizingwealth.com/
Candace Thompson-Zachery
01:27:47
Thank you Yanira!
*Christopher Morgan*
01:34:16
Current Question: What are the ways we have seen, or hope to see, that we can move from words to actions?
Scott Stoner
01:34:54
Check out Guild of Future Architects future architects.com - their process is about listening, hearing, action
Emily Johnson
01:39:43
mily P — totally hear you! yes.
Emily Johnson
01:39:52
Great idea Malesha. The Creating New Futures working group has also been talking about the emergence of an Ethics Council….
Lynn Fisher
01:40:37
Leaning into Discomfort: To register: https://danafonteneau.as.me/Leaningintodiscomfort*All proceeds will be donated to the non-profit Black Girls Code.
Emily Johnson
01:40:40
Yes Sean! re inclusion / erasure
*Bill Bragin*
01:40:44
Are there some conversations that are half happening in the Panelists only thread that aren’t getting into the attendees conversation?
Jumatatu Poe
01:41:03
wanting abolition
Emily Johnson
01:41:14
Yes juma
Krista Bradley
01:41:16
Here's a question: Julianna Crespo 01:33 PMCan you give guidance for those of us who experience staff within the organization that are pushing back on change. Responding with things like "All Lives Matter", and honestly centering the conversation on them. It slows the work many of us are trying to do to push forward...
Krista Bradley
01:41:31
And another from Q & A : Anonymous Attendee 01:52 PMThank you for speaking to organizations/institutions that already exist. Can you please speak a bit to the young artists/arts professionals who might be watching that have just watched the already severely competitive end economically fragile field of the arts become even more so with the pandemic? Any thoughts/advice about how young people might deal with the absolute crushing reality that the performing arts may never come back in the same way?
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
01:41:53
I hear you, Sean. I see it this way: If you’re a presenter, your SEASONtells us who you are.If you’re a university, your CURRICULUMtells us who you are.If you’re an opera house, your COMMISSIONStell us who you are.If you’re an orchestra, your PROGRAMMINGtells us who you are.If you love Black people, your CHOICEStell us who you are.I love you, now tell me who you are.
*Bill Bragin*
01:42:32
@DBR - I was totally thinking of this FB post of yours when Sean was talking
*Bill Bragin*
01:43:05
I remember presenting Sweet Honey in the Rock in college and it was my first lesson that a contract and rider is a moral document too.
Yanira Castro
01:43:42
Creating New Futures document: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1F-PfkWYNuOMtRzyvLKXOABKUlXhTx2sz?usp=sharing
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
01:44:13
Sean is speaking the truth!
Amy Schwartzman
01:45:00
Yes, sorry I sent mine just to panelists: My fear about the question “Do they all need to reopen?” is that many of those organizations that are most vulnerable because they may not have reserves or enough infrastructure are often in that position because of the structural and systemic inequities. Although, it may also be the case that the smallest can be the most nimble and able to reopen because they’ve always survived with less: artists will make their work and figure out how to do that because they always do. The larger organizations may have the most systemic advantages. The ones I worry about the most are the ones in the middle and, again, they may suffer the most because of the systemic inequities - how can and will they find a path through to do the work and how do they need to be supported to do that if it is what they want to do?
Krista Bradley
01:45:15
Question from an attendee: Anonymous Attendee 01:52 PMWE are not addressing the racist presenters in this field! How do we speak to them as normally we do not challenging them when we are speaking to them as we are afraid of lossing a booking? The famous line we do not need that in our community.
Ellen Chenoweth
01:45:22
Yes for leap-frogging from DEI to abolition and yes for the image of a party where we all bring tools
*Christopher Morgan*
01:46:56
Current Question: Any thoughts/advice about how young people might deal with the crushing reality that the performing arts may never come back in the same way?
Yanira Castro
01:51:05
Yes to suspending disbelief. Thank you, Tara.
Scott Stoner
01:51:29
the concept of “relationally” is important - connected with making time and space in the community for reimagining community identity through the lens of youth - reimagining space and time for culture to grow and flourish
Hannah Henderson
01:51:30
I love this actioned oriented positivity
Michelle Fletcher
01:51:45
@Candace Miguel is talking publicly with Edgar at 4pm EST
Michelle Fletcher
01:51:48
http://hmd.simpletix.com/e/54155
Candace Thompson-Zachery
01:52:04
Thanks michelle
Michelle Fletcher
01:52:16
xo
Kaitlyn Sakry
01:52:27
HERE/NOW: HOW WE GOT HERE (AND HOW WE NEVER GET HERE AGAIN)Thursday, June 11, 3:30-5 p.m. (EDT)/12:30-2 p.m. (PDT)
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:52:27
This movement is about BLACK LIVES MATTER. Where is the discussion about centering BLACK LIVES within the dance field? The conversation continues to be side stepped.
Krista Bradley
01:52:45
Tomorrow's session with a historical lens at 3:30 EDT: HOW WE GOT HERE (AND HOW WE NEVER GET HERE AGAIN)
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:53:24
You can’t lead a revolution until we center BLACK LIVES MATTER in this conversation.
Khalil Sullivan
01:54:08
@Denise Saunders Thompson: Are you aware of this three day talk that begins today. Today’s session is for black folks only:
Khalil Sullivan
01:54:09
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.eventbrite.com/e/bwayforblm-day-1-a-day-of-healing-registration-108453724008&sa=D&usd=2&usg=AOvVaw22oBqJcgChUVRJYBgkgh54
Khalil Sullivan
01:54:59
Broadway for Black Lives Matter is the name of the 3-day conference.
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:55:15
@khalil the link isn’t working - just clicked on it.
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:55:50
@khalil - just found it in eventbrite
Khalil Sullivan
01:55:51
Try this one: https://www.bwayforblm.com/
Khalil Sullivan
01:56:09
Great! I hope you can still register and attend.
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:56:30
@khalil - i am aware of this push from the theater community.
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:56:37
the dance community is silent…
Khalil Sullivan
01:56:54
Gotcha. Hmmm.
Candace Thompson-Zachery
01:57:25
I hear you Denise - doing what I can where I am
Denise Saunders Thompson
01:58:37
@candace - love you for all that you do! we will have to mobilize ourselves. White people have to “do the work.”
Julianna Crespo
01:59:27
Regarding Emily's point for more resources for artists. I believe AB5 was supposed to address this at least in Ca
Michelle Fletcher
02:00:01
https://instagram.com/thedanceunion?igshid=15ojhjuzz5vdr
Candace Thompson-Zachery
02:00:04
Thank you Denise. Agreed
Michelle Fletcher
02:00:42
June 15 town hall at 7pm to address white supremacy in dance institutions
Yanira Castro
02:01:30
@Michelle fletcher that is The Dance Union correct?
Michelle Fletcher
02:02:22
yes! and here is the link to first one- https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2roJLe4AOv0&fbclid=IwAR3pW-JqWCYrjFCnvXUVtRXOTkY8N7UF7J06e648tHMgyz58H-qCdbFHz4g
Michelle Fletcher
02:02:50
for those who May not know or have seen it yet
Sixto Wagan
02:04:38
I am concerned that the nimbleness of the small/medium organizations also comes at the costs of the personal labor of the people and the artists who make those organizations possible. Is there a way to make holding those values actually something that respects that labor?
Amy Schwartzman
02:05:14
Sixto, yes!!!! And hi!!
Jennie Wasserman
02:05:44
Agreed, Sixto. I’ve been thinking about that as well.
Michelle Fletcher
02:05:53
^^^
*Rika Iino*
02:06:20
Exactly Sixto
Stephanie Pacheco
02:06:31
Agreed.
Candace Thompson-Zachery
02:08:46
Agreed Sixto
Denise Saunders Thompson
02:09:19
I am so confused by this conversation. The color BLACK - is inclusive of all colors, however until we center BLACKNESS we will not be able to “move forward” anything. This country, has not dealt with this issue and until that happens - the dismantling of these systems - we will continue to have these conversations that go no where.
Joe Clifford
02:10:55
Thank you, Sixto
*Bill Bragin*
02:11:42
@Sixto That’s a question I really try to think about from a management side. Having been trained in boundary-less organizations, and being personally willing to work more than should be expected or is healthy how do I not create a structure or an expectation that this should be the norm.
Adele Myers
02:14:15
Yes Emily!
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:14:34
My work centers blackness 365 days out of the year. My work, and my institutions work
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:15:06
Happy to do that
Sixto Wagan
02:16:34
@Bill - this is particularly significant right now, when so much of the work - as discussed earlier in this conversation - requires time and reflection. The partnerships require time that do not relate to actionable metrics.
Sixto Wagan
02:18:24
why isn’t there a snap function on Zoom?
*Rika Iino*
02:19:30
KAMILAH!!!!!!!
Tere O'Connor
02:19:32
Thank you for all of this thinking. Very informative for listeners.
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
02:20:38
Kamilah is Truth
*Rika Iino*
02:21:06
Hundreds of years. Yes. Not every February.
Candace Thompson-Zachery
02:21:10
Reparations…
Krista Bradley
02:21:10
Tbis is so important: KARIN STEIN 02:17 PMAlso, speaking from a rural perspective, some presenters are in the early process of understanding the depths of racism and discrimination, but are trying to learn and bring their communities slowly in that direction. Should their slow-moving efforts be stopped or excluded? I live in a rural area and have always thought that having the patience to be a part of that change, including those eye-rolling moments or even angering moments, are important to endure to help some rural thinking evolve.
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:21:30
Justice oriented approach!
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
02:22:00
Denise keeping us real and now and truthful
Krista Bradley
02:22:12
Thank you, Denise.
Sixto Wagan
02:22:36
thank you @Denise!
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:22:47
Yes @carol
Jeanne Mam-Luft
02:23:02
Denise, thank you for pointing that out!!!
Krista Bradley
02:23:08
Next conversation is at 3:30
Stephanie Pacheco
02:23:35
@Sixto: “so much of the work - as discussed earlier in this conversation - requires time and reflection. The partnerships require time that do not relate to actionable metrics.” YES… and so much of this work is tied to individuals and not integrated into the fabric of institutional systems. So when individuals or leaders depart, the work goes away and communities feel justified anger and resentment.
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:23:59
Thank you for the brilliant facilitation Christopher
Lulani Arquette
02:24:12
Thanks to all of you for your insight and sharing; so much powerful statements:hold moment of stillness
*Bill Bragin*
02:24:59
@Stephanie - yes - that’s where the continuity of a well structured institution comes into place. Where the values can extend beyond and outlast individual departures
Tere O'Connor
02:25:33
Christopher you a great job here!!
Julianna Crespo
02:26:09
@Karin I find my work within my organization in a similar place. My board needs to be educated and expanded. We have staff who need to be educated or move on. My organization needs better hiring practices... the comminity I serve has changed rapidly in the past 5 years...the donors are conservative older and white. Our community is 60% Latinx.
Ellen Chenoweth
02:26:33
Gratitude to all panelists, the sensitive moderation, and to Denise for reminding us of the need to center blackness, now and in our futures
Kaisha Johnson
02:26:39
Thanks. Kamilah for your words. Also, a justice oriented approach means centering Black and indigenous people. Let’s address the original sins that activated these systems in this country so we can work towards liberation for all.
STACIE CHAIKEN
02:26:51
This was fantastic. Well done !!
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:27:09
Yes @kaisha
Michael Harrington
02:27:17
Thank you, all.
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:27:22
Thank you christopher
Emily Johnson
02:27:22
Quyana everyone!
Yanira Castro
02:27:23
Amazing work. Thank you Christopher and all the speakers and Denise and all of you on this chat.
Denise Saunders Thompson
02:27:56
@Kaisha - YES
Kaisha Johnson
02:28:02
Thank you Christopher for your inspiring facilitation.
*Kamilah Forbes*
02:28:03
Thank you all
Lulani Arquette
02:28:18
oops pressed too quickly. I meant to complete Kamilah’s thought about, “hold moment of stillness and force in these times”. and so many others. Christopher, beautiful moderating; emily all great
Keelyn Mitchell
02:29:26
Incredible panel. THANK YOU. Cannot wait to learn more and do better.
Khalil Sullivan
02:32:12
Thank you, Denise for pushing the conversation
Sean Dorsey
02:37:23
Thank you all. Thank you Denise for shining a light on us non-Black folks not centering BLACK LIVES in this session (I lipread & use hearing aids so I cannot look at Chat Box during a session). Thank you Krista and Christopher for holding this conversation <3
Krista Bradley
02:39:25
Thank you so much for doing this session, Sean, and Denise, thank you for bringing us back to where we needed to center some of the covnersations today.
*Bill Bragin*
02:42:22
For those who may be interested, Martha Redbone is currently in a powerful conversation on Camille A Brown’s Instagram’s page, also talking about Black and indigenous issues, both in relation to her personal and family history, and on a larger level
Lulani Arquette
03:05:02
Thanks Bill! I met you in 2018 in Abu Dhabi at the Cultures Summit. Glad you
Lulani Arquette
03:05:54
Glad you are on this webinar and hope to connect again at some point.
*Bill Bragin*
03:11:16
Hi Lulani! Nice to reconnect with you here!
Krista Bradley
03:24:56
Thank you Mojo. Can everyone see DBR?
Krista Bradley
03:25:26
Thanks, everyone.
Bonnie Schock
03:31:50
thank you APAP, Marc, Maurine, Linda for this...
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
03:32:45
In my introduction, I should have been more clear. THIS panel is THE MONEY QUESTION. I apologize for the confusion.
*Heena Patel*
03:40:52
THANK YOU Linda for highlighting the connectors that were missed.
*Bill Bragin*
03:42:38
Linda’s point brings up the larger question - philanthropy is largely driven by tax status. Creative producers, agents, managers, independent artists, independent venues…many set up their structures outside of the 501(c)3 structure, yet are just as mission driven and essential to the field.As we’re talking about disrupting structures, what conversations are happening within philanthropy about revisiting eligiblity requirements?
*Rika Iino*
03:43:12
*snap snap* bill!
Denise Saunders Thompson
03:43:55
SYSTEM CHANGE...
Emily Johnson
03:44:12
Yes Bill Yes Denise
*Heena Patel*
03:44:16
Really do need a snap function here. Who is going to disappear if we don’t recognize the connector not supported?
Krista Bradley
03:46:30
*Bill Bragin* 03:55 PMLinda’s point brings up the larger question - philanthropy is largely driven by tax status. Creative producers, agents, managers, independent artists, independent venues…many set up their structures outside of the 501(c)3 structure, yet are just as mission driven and essential to the field.As we’re talking about disrupting structures, what conversations are happening within philanthropy about revisiting eligiblity requirements?
Thomas Kriegsmann
03:46:47
The non-profit structure itself is among the myriad of American structures demanding recalibration. What facet of the experimental arts structure is not essentially non-profit and what is the reward for risk?
*Rika Iino*
03:53:58
YES!
*Heena Patel*
03:54:00
YES Maureen!
Sonya Kitchens
03:54:19
Yes indeed!
Emily Prince
03:54:35
YES
Ellen Chenoweth
03:54:36
Yes, thank you, yes
*Bill Bragin*
03:55:30
Yes, these are issues of health care, affordable housing, livable wages…for most people in the US, in the arts and otherwise.
Krista Bradley
03:55:42
The poem Bamuthi shared was by Nicole Sealy and poem title is "Hysterical Strength"
Adele Myers
04:03:23
I am in the same situation. Thank you for asking this question Marc.
*Bill Bragin*
04:03:24
Where is the audience? Are they even physically in the same space as you or one another?
Adele Myers
04:05:57
Yes Liz!
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
04:06:21
The truth, Liz!
*Bill Bragin*
04:09:09
Bill Bragin The best philanthropic support I've gotten was in a letter from Mellon at the start of the pandemic which said, essentially: We trust you to know how you need to use the resources in your grant, and opened up a less restricted vision of the grant. We need more of a focus on general operating support, and multi-year support, as Liz pointed out. And as Eddie said - it's rooted in trust.\
Adele Myers
04:09:16
As artists we need to resist the pull to make ‘fast art’
Jannina Norpoth
04:10:53
Adele - could not agree more
Ron Bermingham
04:11:22
As an opera singer living and performing in Western Europe, I, along with citizens and residents of the country, enjoyed full medical coverage, a full 12-month performance contract - 11 months of performing , followed by a 12th month for a fully paid holiday, and…wait for this, a “13th” extra month of pay at full salary so that the vacation could be enjoyed without any financial anxiety. Returning to North America was like running into a brick wall at full steam. Chock. We are so far behind in the arts that here, are often elitist and so under funded that it’s difficult to maintain a career, and even more difficult to convince students to follow their dreams into the arts. Oy!
Emily Prince
04:12:25
Re risk: This is a great time for funders to let orgs fail forward. “We’ve always done it this way” is blessedly gone.
Mary Lou Aleskie
04:13:37
Risk taking and experimentation is the bedrock of finances for the sciences. Where are the research and risk based funding for the arts? We fund products but not process. Why? Can this change??
Sixto Wagan
04:14:39
@Mary Lou, is it that we fund products, or does the system only understand how to present product and not process?
Shane Cadman
04:15:15
This is such an inspiring conversation. Thank you!
Mary Lou Aleskie
04:15:21
@sixto wagon. Both!
Tere O'Connor
04:15:49
Almost all available funding in the United States is for new performance. There is know money for research or general operating which could include ideation for new models
Amy Schwartzman
04:17:07
Will the chat, as well as the presentations themselves, also be saved and accessible later? How?
*Bill Bragin*
04:17:31
When most funding is for new performance, it also doesn’t allow for continuity. Further development of repertory work. More focus on gen op would then leave more up to the artists and presenters to decide whether the focus is on creation, refinement, infrastructure, engagement…
Jennie Wasserman
04:18:01
Yes, Bill!
Emily Johnson
04:18:08
Private foundations have a minimum payout rule: 5% has to go out the door. Only 5%. Of that, only 8%goes to communities of color. Maybe some ‘risk’ could be about allocating ALOT more resource out the door(s).
Lulani Arquette
04:18:47
Yes Bill! The pandemic created a sense of urgency and some funders stepped up in trust and quickly. The key is not losing this momentum and to really lean on philanthropy to embrace transformative change and how the work of artists and creatives is to community and social change. I think of the legal term, Justice delayed is justice denied. There needs to be consideration for other ways of funding including what’s already been mentioned.
Sarah Martin
04:18:49
@Amy, yes. APAP will be sharing the chat, etc. as PDFs on our website next week.
Amy Schwartzman
04:19:13
Thanks, Sarah!
*Daniel Bernard Roumain*
04:19:37
THE question right here: @Mary Lou: “Risk taking and experimentation is the bedrock of finances for the sciences. Where are the research and risk based funding for the arts? We fund products but not process. Why? Can this change??”
Nina Patel
04:20:32
If we believed in the importance of the arts, and its value for society, as much as Elon Musk believes in the importance of going to the moon — We would be investable. We, as arts professionals, need to believe in every way the work that we do is essential to human survival. We require an unrelenting belief in what we do, deep into our bones and build a business case, model that investors are willing to invest.
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:20:56
REPARATIONS…
Emily Johnson
04:21:12
Yes Denise
Julianna Crespo
04:22:16
Author, Ijeoma Oluo just hosted a discussion on this topic in her IG live. Its still there for anyone interested.
*Heena Patel*
04:22:21
THANK YOU Maureen for naming WHO we are or aren’t funding.
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:22:31
centuries…decades… our organizations were formed in the belly of the beast.
*Bill Bragin*
04:23:10
We’ve been turned down for grants because our budgets were too small (our need too high?)
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:23:49
@Heena - her name is spelled Maurine. ijs
*Heena Patel*
04:24:55
Thanks @Denise for the correction.
Lulani Arquette
04:25:23
Right on Maurine!
*Bill Bragin*
04:29:08
There’s been a lot of conversations in my circles about how contracts and payment can be structured based on the work that is done - as it’s done - and not have it contingent on the performance. Reduce the burden of artists and producers self-funding.
Jannina Norpoth
04:29:58
As a black performing artist in classical music I'm keenly aware of the inequities in our field. One of the biggest frustrations for me is that the majority of arts institutions (especially in the classical world), are administratively white. White staff, white presenters, white board. In dismantling the white supremacy of our arts organizations what is the responsibility to revisit actions for risk taking and change when there are fears to make white board members uncomfortable, or the majority of white booking agents expected to seek out and present black artists?
Emily Johnson
04:30:08
Edgar Villanova - on another philanthropy focused meeting right now with Miguel Guiterrez - just suggested that private foundations (all) give 10% (maybe as a start) of their endowments to BIPOC communities so we can self-determine. This is anti-racist work.
Deborah Sommers
04:31:18
We are looking at possibility of contracts and negotiations In terms of payments in phases. So institutions/presenters and perhaps funders taking on a portion of this risk on as well.
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:31:35
@JANNINA - Yes…
*Bill Bragin*
04:32:00
@Emily - meaning - to create BIPOC led foundations, or specifically earmarked for BIPOC artists/orgs?
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:32:51
Yes, the philanthropic sector has work to do but this is personal/internal work that must be done in order for there to be change. Organizations are made up of #PEOPLE.
Julianna Crespo
04:32:54
@Jannina your question is so pertinent. Something that I am dealing with as well - with boards being dominated by white leadership. Anti-racism work needs to be internal looking in order to not just be performative. Those of us trying to drive the work need help on how to push change at the board level - from the top down... Do we need to give then education resources? TO help them understand this is important?
Emily Johnson
04:35:03
To go directly to BIPOC communities (maybe through orgs in existence, maybe other ways too outside of the non-profit sector) with no strings attached (no program/no product). BIPOC communities/orgs know and can best determine how to utilize the funds. We Self determine where the resource is needed/has most resonance to us.
Adele Myers
04:35:43
Yes Liz!
Francine Sheffield
04:35:58
Yes Liz!
elena moon park
04:36:00
Thanks Liz!
Jannina Norpoth
04:36:05
Yes Liz!
*Bill Bragin*
04:36:06
@Emily - thanks for the clarification/elaboration
Sean Dorsey
04:36:57
Yes redistribute wealth!!
Jacob Yarrow
04:37:01
Yes! Move the money!!!
Kaisha Johnson
04:37:08
#MoveTheMoney! And at LEAST 50%, not 10%, should be dedicated to BIPOC.
Linsey Bostwick
04:37:16
Yes, and it starts with us
Rachel Katwan
04:37:19
Redistribute not just wealth but also access and exposure.
Alison McNeil
04:37:32
Revisit your definitions for what is valuable...
Francine Sheffield
04:37:44
Yes Kaisha! #MoveTheMoney!
*Heena Patel*
04:38:01
#MoveTheMoney applies at ALL levels - from grantmakers to presenting organizations to agents/managers
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:38:07
@KAISHA - YESSSS
Emily Johnson
04:38:11
Yes @kaisha !
*Heena Patel*
04:38:18
There is power and ability at so many levels to #MoveTheMoney
Alison Loerke
04:39:42
Thank you for this question, Marc…..
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:41:22
Wealth is loaded…
Alison McNeil
04:41:51
That speaks to the definition of value…
Sean Dorsey
04:41:55
Denise: agreed!
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:41:56
this country killed - BLACK WALL STREET.
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:42:22
like let’s talk about what this really is…
Jennie Wasserman
04:42:50
Amen, Maurine! Trust artists!
*Bill Bragin*
04:44:10
Maybe they have a small LLC. For others, maybe they do or don’t have a bank account.
*Heena Patel*
04:44:30
YES Eddie!
Tere O'Connor
04:47:14
I have listened to many online meetings Creative Futures, Dance Union etc regarding the collision of covid and Floyd/Black Lives Matter. I feel like a student again and I am lifted up by the intelligence and thoughtfulness and generosity of all the speakers. You have all been fantastic today. Thank you.
Marc Joseph
04:48:02
Thank you for a very informative, brilliant session
Marc Joseph
04:48:12
Move the Money
Jacob Yarrow
04:48:17
I'll move the money to buy that shirt!
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:48:23
how about #givebackthemoney
Denise Saunders Thompson
04:48:31
#itsbeenstolen
Adele Myers
04:48:41
Thank you all so much...
Emily Johnson
04:49:04
Yes Denise
Sharon Moore
04:49:11
Thank you all! Move the money! Thank you for your generosity and brilliance!
Sean Dorsey
04:49:15
Yes Denise
Lori Jones
04:49:44
Thank you all!
Alison Loerke
04:49:49
Terrific panel, thank you Marc and all the panelists for your thoughtful engagement. Move the Money!
Deborah Sommers
04:49:59
Thank you for this conversation
*Heena Patel*
04:50:03
Thank you all for your brilliance!
Sean Dorsey
04:50:12
Thank you all!! So grateful
Jannina Norpoth
04:50:16
Thank you!
elena moon park
04:50:18
Wonderful, thanks!
*Bill Bragin*
04:50:38
Excited and energized for tomorrow night. It’s bedtime here in Abu Dhabi. Thanks Bamuthi and Rika and APAP and all of the inspiring panelists
erica zielinski
04:50:53
Bamuthi, et al. THANK YOU for this necessary inspiration!
Malesha Taylor
04:51:05
Fantastic! Great honest conversation. Marc is always amazing. Thank you!
Sean Dorsey
04:51:05
Krista we appreciate you so much <3
Nina Patel
04:51:06
Very insightful, thank you.
Lulani Arquette
04:51:50
Mahalo nui to Krista, Mark, and all the panelists, and the participants. this was really valuable and I appreciate all of you.