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CWPA President
18:02
It is currently being recorded
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
18:03
What software are you using to create the captioning?
Justin Bendell
18:15
I feel that is should be the decision of the facilitators to do so.
Patricia Gillikin (she, her)
18:24
Thank you, Mark!
Joanna Johnson
18:43
CC is on google slides
Ashanka Kumari
18:48
I think it’s just PowerPoint? You can caption slides live as you present in PowerPoint.
Ashanka Kumari
18:55
Ah, Google Slides yes! :)
Jessie Borgman
19:04
It's Google Slides
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
19:14
Thank you!
saralovett
19:57
I’m not seeing the breakout room link
Cathy Gabor
20:12
How do we go to the other group?
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
20:17
https://msu.zoom.us/j/91337543681
Joanna Johnson
20:24
https://msu.zoom.us/j/91337543681Password: 595020
saralovett
21:20
I tried to go over, but there is a meeting password
saralovett
21:25
Anyone know what that might be?
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
21:36
Password: 595020
Joanna Johnson
21:36
Password: 595020
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
21:36
Password: 595020
Jennifer Wilson
21:52
same here. it just went by on a different slide...
saralovett
21:55
thanks! Can you resend the link? The chat history disappeared.
Jennifer Wilson
21:55
and the original link?
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
00:22:11
https://msu.zoom.us/j/91337543681
Password: 595020
Joanna Johnson
22:13
https://msu.zoom.us/j/91337543681Password: 595020
Jennifer Wilson
22:16
thx!
Casey McArdle
22:50
Room #2: PARS Introduction--link to that Zoom roomhttps://msu.zoom.us/j/91337543681Password: 595020
Terri Pantuso
22:55
I'm most interested in strategies for creating communities beyond freshman comp
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
25:10
Great question, Joanna! I have had the same issue and question
Joanna Johnson
26:17
And I’m in south Florida… so….
CWPA President
26:19
What a great job you did on this statement. Thank you!
Lydia Wilkes
28:39
That would be amazing! But…I’m in Idaho. :(
Amy Cicchino
28:48
YES, @Lori! And labor efforts that are inclusive of staff as well as faculty
Lydia Wilkes
29:05
How might we build labor solidarity in the absence of opportunities to unionize?
Joanna Johnson
29:53
@Lydia: I don’t know… I wish I did
Jennifer Grouling Snider
30:05
I’ve been supporting some contract faculty in a letter to administration and a forum through faculty senate to push the choice issue—which is haphazard here. But I’m actually separating that from my WPA work. What do you see as advantages/disadvantages to tying that advocacy to that role?
Nelson Graff
30:24
What about the higher workload for online teaching?
Christopher Werry
32:37
Yes the higher workload issue is crucial. Most writing teachers where I am teach 5 sections of 30 students. Doing that face to face was almost impossible, and tended to avoid pedagogic shortcuts. Going online makes that extremely hard.
Lori Ostergaard
32:41
Michigan is also a right to work state, so no strikes, but our faculty union, which is a PT and FT union, is strong.
Amy Vidali
32:47
I’m in California in a unionized environment, which is wonderful (was previously in Colorado). But the major concern is lower enrollments and the lack of a safety net if our lecturers fall below 50% employment and lose health insurance.
Lydia Wilkes
33:14
Lower enrollments are a huge concern here, too. The university has already let faculty go.
Amy Vidali
33:42
To this end, I would like to see a stronger statement on smaller class sizes, which of course is also needed in online spaces.
Christopher Werry
34:08
Second Amy's point
Lydia Wilkes
34:16
Yes, that would help out everyone: people teaching 5 sections of 30 students and institutions with dwindling enrollments.
Lori Ostergaard
34:37
Yes, I agree with Amy!
Ashanka Kumari
36:47
agreed!
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
37:48
Lydia: Maybe an open letter on the connection between COVID and online and class size?
CWPA President
37:55
Totally agree with the wisdom of limiting class size; THIS statement made it through two EBs, so it probably won’t be revised soon. :)
TLC
38:06
Agreed about the smaller class sizes—and also, how do we support faculty who are new to online in doing really effective online instruction? —yes, this is back to how we wrangle professional dev without being able to pay people to do it
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
38:40
My university is looking to limit F2F class sizes and bump up for all online classes, even in FYC
Jennifer Grouling Snider
38:48
How are people planning to cover classes should faculty get sick mid-semester?
Lydia Wilkes
39:14
They’re prioritizing the safety of the institution over the safety of faculty and students.
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
39:31
Yes, what Lydia said. That’s my uni too
Joanna Johnson
39:36
Same here
Kristin Prins
39:39
From a campus that’s fully online for fall: I had success with the argument that we needed to drop FYC caps to 20 (from 24) for teaching online t0 support student success and retention—until my state’s budget forecast came down. And then they were immediately bumped back up with very little fanfare or consideration for the good reasons for dropping them.
Jeanne Marie Rose
39:58
Our WPA has a teams approach--we're a smaller program, so there may be cohorts of 3-5 instructors who teach a given course. If one person fell ill, we might each take on another section. We prepare by adding each other to CMSs.
Nelson Graff
40:25
Yes, Kristin. It’s hard to make the argument for smaller class sizes when we have such budget shortfalls.
Kristin Prins
40:56
@Jeanne: That teams approach sounds interesting! Are instructors self-sorting, or are the groupings done by the WPA?
Jill Hartwig
41:06
@Jeanne Marie Rose, that’s a great idea. Very helpful.
Amy Vidali
41:37
I’ve found thinking about arguing the smaller class size issue via retention, which administration does want to hear about right now.
Lydia Wilkes
41:56
Yes, retention is the #1 goal here right now.
Jeanne Marie Rose
43:19
Hi Kristin, We're talking about only 10 faculty or less. There's a mix of self-selecting or group pairings. If people can demonstrate coverage, they can self-select.
Kristin Prins
43:59
@Jeanne, that makes good sense. Thanks :)
Jennifer Grouling Snider
44:02
That’s awesome! We made Canvas examples and shared to Commons for faculty but I’ll ask about BluePrint
Courtney Wooten
44:25
We have a buddy system where we ask faculty to pair up (or pair them up if needed) so at least one other person is in the LMS and knows what’s going on. Then, they can transition into the class and/or help transition someone else into the class as needed.
Nelson Graff
45:58
Synchronous versus asynchronous
Kristin Prins
46:14
@Courtney, that’s a smart system
Lydia Wilkes
46:28
I use anonymous weekly feedback with students. Having weekly feedback has been very helpful.
Courtney Wooten
46:47
It worked fairly well in the spring and we plan on doing it again this fall. It also gave faculty the sense of a support system/backup.
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
46:57
And there are lots of much smaller ways to do checkins that the LMS can help you with. I've been working on a list and you all are making me realize that I need to share that thing.
Amy Vidali
47:04
Yes, Nelson. We have a very on-campus/anti-online culture where I am, but then teaching lots of Zoom classes sucks for everyone. So thinking about what students need versus want.
CWPA President
47:24
Yes, one of the best things I’ve heard in this conference is that we should plan for students to be ill and also instructors to be ill. So build flex into the classes, and encourage instructors to keep LMS, grade books, syllabi up to date so someone can fill in.
Joanna Johnson
47:29
@Traci, yes, please!
Nelson Graff
47:32
Agreed, Amy. I’m also concerned with the equity issues of having required zoom sessions.
Lydia Wilkes
48:06
That’s the culture here, too, Amy.
Jill Hartwig
48:15
In terms of making an argument for administrators for smaller class sizes, here’s a document that I compiled with some helpful articles and resources as I began to research this issue at our institution: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dsn8GQBAF5Ipk4nl6NG7FVUtSsRylq4ygPO8_Lw5J6A/edit?usp=sharing
Jeanne Marie Rose
48:22
Another Big DATO: recording expectations, consent issues, etc. Important to establish at the outset.
Nelson Graff
48:31
Thanks, Jill!
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
49:13
Thanks, Jill!
Lori Ostergaard
49:55
Thanks, Jill!
Katelynn DeLuca
50:16
Thank you for sharing, Jill!
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
50:58
Yes, Traci. That’s what I’ve been doing too; I love that feature in canvas
Joanna Johnson
51:16
Is there an equivalent in blackboard?
CWPA President
51:57
@Joanna Retention Center helps with check ins
Joanna Johnson
52:02
thx
Lydia Wilkes
52:54
Moodle automates the feedback for me.
Mellisa Huffman
56:25
Cheri Lemieux Spiegel and I analyzed 25 years of conversations about the class size argument on the WPA-L to determine how the conversation has evolved and compile some of the recommended rhetorical topoi. We presented on this at the CWPA conference in 2018 and created a heuristic for tailoring this argument at your institution based on our findings. We are currently writing an article on this, but we distributed a handout at the session. I can share this handout/heuristic with anyone who is interested.
Jill Hartwig
56:41
We have tried mentor groups within our larger group of instructors. That seems to have worked OK, though I’m sure there’s lot of room for improvement.
Jill Hartwig
56:57
@Melissa Huffman, I’d love to see that handout. Thank you!
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
56:58
I’d love to get a copy of that, Mellisa
Amy Vidali
56:58
Melissa, yes please!
Joanna Johnson
57:15
@ Melissa yes please!
michelepolak
57:28
I’m interested, Melissa. Thank you!
Diane Economakis
57:42
Yes, I’d like this too - thanks
Ashanka Kumari
58:09
Yes please, thank you!
Nicole Weaver
58:29
Me too, Mellisa
Lydia Wilkes
58:38
Here’s the weekly anonymous feedback I use in my online courses: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NBxArw3mj-WN9-HpD33Y0rl2AQn9yFSX/view?usp=sharing
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
58:39
Could we do a poll: how many of us would love to take the two day workshop if another version were offered in August?
lindalearman
58:43
@ Melissa, I’m interested too, please.
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
59:12
Thanks, Lydia
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
59:25
Andrea, I’ve written to Mark BH on offering more session(s) if Casey/Jessie can do it
CWPA President
59:33
CWPA would be happy to offer another workshop if Casey/Jessie are willing
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
59:36
Thanks!
Jessie Borgman
59:42
We are :)
Diane Economakis
59:46
I would definitely be interested if that’s a possibility - thank you, Sherry!
Sherry Rankins-Robertson
59:49
Thx Jess
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
59:49
thanks, Lydia. Those questions are really close to the information that I ask students to track in their weekly work logs
Lydia Wilkes
01:00:03
Nice! Do you have the prompt for the work logs?
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:00:20
just a sec
Darci Thoune
01:00:45
I had students create playlists too! So much fun.
Madelyn Fox-Defago
01:00:58
I’ve done the shared spotify playlist in f2f classes before to use during workshops, and it was a really great tool. I love the idea of transitioning that to the online platform.
Jeanne Marie Rose
01:01:41
My son's class (admittedly elementary school) did FlipGrid recordings as ice breakers a few times a week. Thinking of borrowing this idea.
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:02:36
@Lydia I think it may be stuck in a Canvas Assignment right now. I'm not sure that the public version of the course will let you get to it. I'll pull it out and make a post with a link later this afternoon. I'll share on FB and Twitter
Lydia Wilkes
01:02:57
@Traci Thanks! And no rush. :)
Cathy Gabor
01:03:37
We talked about FlipGrid in our break out group, but noted that it is blocked in China
michelepolak
01:04:23
I let my students chat to the side during class…great underlife! But I do tell them that if they are not following me as I am speaking or taking part in discussion, they are NOT present in class.
Lydia Wilkes
01:04:28
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NBxArw3mj-WN9-HpD33Y0rl2AQn9yFSX/view?usp=sharing
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
01:04:32
@Traci what is your Twitter handle?
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:04:42
tengrrl
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:04:51
I'm tengrrl pretty much everywhere
Ashanka Kumari
01:05:20
Thanks for this Lydia! Love this idea.
Sara Beam
01:05:29
Thanks, Lydia!
Terri Pantuso
01:05:34
is this a Google form
Darci Thoune
01:05:42
Thanks, Lydia and Traci!
Diane Economakis
01:05:44
Love the feedback sheet! What does the reflection usually include?
Diane Economakis
01:05:54
Any particular question they answer?
Lydia Wilkes
01:06:22
The reflections vary from week to week. Usually it’s “what was new, what was familiar?” or, when they finish an assignment, “what was challenging? how do you think you’ll use this in the future?”
Lydia Wilkes
01:06:48
Sometimes the reflections are check-ins, too, especially around the midterm and finals. They can let me know if something’s going awry in their life. And they do.
Jessie Borgman
01:07:03
Please feel free to join our community too :)
Jessie Borgman
01:07:04
Website: http://www.owicommunity.org/Twiter:@theowicommunityFacebook: http://facebook.com/groups/owicommunityGoogle Groups Forum: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/the-online-writing-instruction-community
Diane Economakis
01:07:13
Thank you! Very helpful!
Jessie Borgman
01:07:45
http://www.owicommunity.org/2020-owi-symposium.html
Heather Flyte (she/her)
01:07:48
There's an extraneous "Google" at the end of Facebook link.
CWPA President
01:08:15
Wow! A symposium!
Terri Pantuso
01:08:16
the Facebook link tells me the content isn't available - do we need invites?
Derek Mueller
01:08:22
I have another meeting I am due to lead at 2 p.m., so please forgive me ducking away to tend to that. Good luck with continuing preparations for fall. And please follow-up with me at dmueller@vt.edu if there is anything you think I might be able to help with.
Traci Gardner (she, her, hers)
01:09:05
@derek I'll be late to that
Brooke Rollins
01:09:15
How can we register for the symposium in August?
Jessie Borgman
01:09:32
@Terri, it's a closed group so you need to request access
Andrea Scott (she/her/hers)
01:09:35
THank you!
Katelynn DeLuca
01:09:38
Thank you, all!
CWPA President
01:09:44
Full conference schedule here: http://wpacouncil.org/aws/CWPA/pt/sp/virtual_conference
Kathleen Turner Ledgerwood
01:09:49
Thank you all so much!
Cathy Gabor
01:09:50
Thank you so much — this was really helpful!
Eric Brown
01:09:52
Thanks so much!!
Amy Vidali
01:09:53
Thank you! This has been really helpful and a great place to just be able to think about these issues for a moment.
Joanna Johnson
01:09:55
Again, so helpful! All these sessions have been fantastic. Thank you
Courtney Wooten
01:09:59
Thanks so much!
Darci Thoune
01:10:01
Great session—so helpful!
Kristin Prins
01:10:02
Yes, thank you!
Lydia Wilkes
01:10:02
Thanks, everyone, for this great discussion!
michelepolak
01:10:08
Thank you all!
Heather Flyte (she/her)
01:10:09
Thank you!
Jeanne Marie Rose
01:10:15
Thanks so much! I appreciate the creative energy!
Christopher Werry
01:10:16
thanks!
Peter Mortensen
01:10:18
Thanks, everyone.
lindalearman
01:10:19
Thanks very much!
Jessie Borgman
01:10:24
@Terri, try this
Jessie Borgman
01:10:25
Facebook: http://facebook.com/groups/owicommunity
Stephanie Liu-Rojas (she/her/hers)
01:10:58
Thank you, All!
Casey McArdle
01:10:59
Thank you all!!!!!
Jimmy Hamill (he/him/his)
01:11:01
Thanks, everyone!
Terri Pantuso
01:11:03
thank you!
Jessie Borgman
01:11:04
Thanks everyone!
Amy Cicchino
01:11:06
Thanks, everyone!