Knowing Seeds, Knowing Ourselves with Betsy Samuelson, K Greene, Nate Kleinman, and Shani Mink at Cultivating Culture 2021
- Shared screen with speaker view

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conference@jewishfarmernetwork.org

10:41
so excited for this!!

11:00
me too Marsha! eeeee!

19:25
What does "feminized" mean?

20:01
@rachel: I think the difference between hemp and marijuana?

20:11
Cannabis is dioecious (male & female plants). Female plants produce smokeable flowers, so feminizing seeds ensure you get high quality, seed free consumable product

20:22
YAAA

20:38
yay omaha! š

22:01
hi! yes I know Connor and the magnuson family

22:12
I don't live there anymore but yes. very much!

22:16
did you go to school in VT?

23:44
I am also in the Philly area and wondering how to learn more about the Lenape

25:25
for @nate: can you share who/where in the USDA you requested indigenous seed?

25:54
Efnseeds.com

26:30
Is it this? https://www.nal.usda.gov/afsic/heirloom-varieties @trella

27:23
www.ars-grin.gov

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I recently did a talk at the Northeast Organic Seed Conference which I believe will be posted online, if it hasnāt been already, about the practicalities of requesting seed from the USDAās National Plant Germplasm System (via the link above)

30:01
ppppsssshhhhhhhhh

30:23
@nate: www.ars-grin.gov says site can't be reached...

32:29
Itās working for me. Huh.

32:47
I got the same error message

33:02
Same.

33:17
!!!

33:19
Weāre so grateful for you!

33:40
I am already so inspired by this session. WOW.

33:43
š¤©

33:47
This is working for me: https://www.ars-grin.gov/ ā but it could just be in the cache. It gets updated sometimes on Sundays. It should be back.

34:31
Shalom Nate =)

34:34
That link worked!

34:34
this new link worked for me, but not the other one. thanks for sharing!

34:58
yes- working now- thank you!

35:11
maybe metaphorical, like we kept the seeds from the temples and will plant them again in the messianic age

36:40
I think globally that's been a role that Jewish immigrants have played, carrying other peoples' seeds, for centuries and centuries. we bring foods from places we're coming from to places we're going to, and have shaped global cuisine in the process. My favorite example, we brought the chickpea out of Africa and into Europe.

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https://www.facebook.com/palestineheirloomseeds/

39:06
I wonder how to find seeds from ancestral places...

39:23
https://viviensansour.com/Palestine-Heirloom

39:28
That is so powerful Nate! The seed/human DNA connectionā¦

41:25
really good question K! seeds belongs to nature and to the Creator, we should share spread and grow, honoring the history

42:12
yeah there's no pure "this is where this came from," but also, when colonizers start using indigenous seeds without getting to know them and pay the people back, it gets messy

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**Reminder to add your questions into the chat as they bubble up for you! We will be collecting them for later in the session.**

44:01
I wanna learn more about the tradition of seed-keeping as a jew you just mentioned!

44:03
naāama seed keeper for Noah arch

45:22
please don't stop :D

45:22
soooo beautiful

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Makes me think about the klipah

45:35
ein sof

45:39
this is gorgeous, thank you

45:46
blown away by that teaching

46:02
y'all should follow K on Instagram @nonbinarybotany

46:26
yassss

46:28
yess!!!!!

46:29
amazing teaching, seeds as shards of concentrated light

46:33
yes yes yes!!

50:05
I have chills. Yes Betsy!

51:15
I keep thinking one of you is my favorite panelist and then Iām falling in love with each of you over and over. šš¤©

51:27
+1

51:29
^^^

51:33
do you grow all the seeds that you sell?

55:34
Amazing! How do you spell the name of that barley?

56:02
Nebawi

56:12
Thank you!

56:44
Does anyone have seeds collected by the Ahronsohn familynin Atlit?

58:13
what about growing seeds is different from growing food plants? is it basically the same except harvesting is a little different?

58:44
In my very small seed saving practice, I have started trying to grow & save seeds of ritual or cultural foods. So, poppy seed, horseradish, all the ingredients for "kosher-style" fermented dill pickles. And all kinds of karpas :-) Curious if anyone is working with this approach.

59:28
do you have any seeds special to you in your personal family history? any specific seeds lost that you grieve for? Today reminded me of a specific apple tree in my familyās history that I now want to run off to Connecticut to collect seeds and cuttings to graft!

59:33
@Alex I grow my own horseradish specifically for the seder :) but Iāve never used seeds! it just grows from the root

01:00:09
same

01:00:14
YESSSSSSS

01:00:25
Thank you for naming this, K

01:01:44
Yessss⦠knowing seeds, knowing yourself

01:01:46
++++

01:01:49
<3

01:02:12
yesssss

01:06:32
Betsy, appreciate your story, thank you

01:07:13
Thank you betsy!

01:08:15
++++so important++++

01:09:06
Beautifully put

01:11:36
yesssssss

01:12:03
cuz its so hard to get the tools to talk about it diffierently :( schools don't teach it

01:12:14
love this, i am excited for my unlearning!

01:12:14
seed solidarity! yes!!!

01:12:42
Amen! Nature is queer as hell

01:12:42
Woah

01:12:54
Thank you for that K

01:12:59
šš±

01:12:59
Thanks so much for that K

01:13:00
*cheers in non-binary*

01:13:06
To all the panelists - I'd love to hear more about any seeds you feel especially connected with!

01:13:19
^^ on what Shana said if anyone has good tools for teaching about being in relationship with seeds and etc would love those links :)

01:13:36
Does the government seed collection provide seeds to home gardeners or only larger farm/seed projects?

01:14:54
š§

01:15:18
and everyone sees us as weeds

01:15:20
Youāre more likely to get seeds from the govāt if youāre attached to an organization (pretty much regardless of the size or scope of the organization). Seeds are only distributed for research, education, breeding, or rematriation. So if you describe your intended use of the seed and it encompasses any of that, they should give it to you. You might get some pushback, but just respond with a more detailed description of your intended use of the seeds.

01:15:35
but we're MEDICINE!

01:15:41
I was JUST going to ask what relationship do you have with seeds of plants sometimes called āweedsā

01:16:14
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEsSsdClbNV/ sharing this resource from the indigenous Sovereign Seed Network (for those who use instagram) regarding the ethical questions around growing, saving, and/or repatriating indigenous seeds

01:16:25
I love that with garlic, the part that we treasure and eat is also the seed :)

01:17:01
it only takes one!

01:17:13
^^ <3

01:17:29
so does that mean our horseradish cuttings are identitical to what our pickling great great grandparetns used???

01:17:37
Same, love growing horseradish

01:17:42
yum horesradish

01:18:03
Sesame!

01:18:06
@AlexLyon Probably! Pretty close anyway. There are a few strains out there.

01:18:08
Big Same

01:18:16
yes

01:18:41
question - should all seeds be kept? this is coming from a person whose job required the saving of a particular Shaker tomato variety thatās almost inedibly disgusting - yet we put in the work every year to save the seed. what seeds should we prioritize saving?

01:19:04
When yāall are doing the research about a particular seed to understand its āseed storyā, how do you synthesize information in a way that honors the complexity of that seedās journey? So many seeds have difficult to trace origins and pass through many cultures/places

01:19:29
How do you listen to plants?

01:19:48
@Sam start with what you enjoy eating. :)

01:22:32
sounds like a Talmudic debate ;)

01:22:43
I imagine there's a whole industry of coming up with glorified stories about seeds' supposed origins to put on marketing

01:22:43
Story is damn good medicine

01:22:54
^ YES <3

01:24:04
will the schmoozes be recorded?? having a hard time deciding whether to go to the disability one or the seed one

01:24:15
Link to sign up for the seed story share: https://forms.gle/5mSSgEqmJ2ANAKK49

01:24:43
It says we need permission Sonia

01:24:44
that link doesn't work

01:25:00
i think you mean tthis? https://www.jewishfarmernetwork.org/day-two-schedule-links

01:25:18
https://forms.gle/S2812GFCMeBuSRom7

01:25:33
Same problem Shani, says we need permission

01:25:35
working on getting the link to work!

01:25:43
Thanks!

01:25:50
Or just

01:26:11
Seed Share Form: https://forms.gle/g53MmokEXmTdmjww9

01:26:40
Does the new link work for folks?

01:26:40
umm please where can we get the whole entire squash story?!?

01:26:48
Or just, a line of "traditionally grown" by native americans

01:26:58
https://store.experimentalfarmnetwork.org/collections/corn/products/oaxacan-green-dent-corn

01:27:58
thanks for some great answers to my very long winded question :)

01:28:12
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfzwcaIkaUTTQ0rXUWW-cMRHznLKlrm03ukbRex_GDpic9WbA/viewform?usp=sf_link

01:28:35
will the schmoozes be recorded? really want to attend but have other obligations!

01:28:39
Thank you all so much, this has been wonderful, must leave now, it's bedtime in England! xx

01:29:13
Beans!

01:29:15
caraway!

01:29:19
dill!

01:29:27
Where can we find recordings?

01:29:32
Iām also starting to realize that it is a kind of sickness in my family to hide our familyās stories out of grief or shame. Trying to have compassion for that dynamic.

01:29:33
thank you SO much. this was incredible.

01:29:36
thank youuuu!!!

01:29:36
Thanks to all of you! You'

01:29:39
You

01:29:42
thank you!

01:29:49
Thanks K, Nate, and Betsy

01:29:58
thanks,all!!

01:39:49
Stern you're looking glamorous!

01:39:59
did we ever find out if the schmooze is recorded?

01:40:06
ty my omaās blanket!!

01:40:19
the seed share will be recorded, but the other two schmoozes will not!

01:40:28
okay thank you

01:40:35
hugs to all!

01:42:02
https://www.jewishfarmernetwork.org/day-two-schedule-links