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Conquer your Cover Letter - Shared screen with speaker view
Deena Sasser
10:24
Hello from a semi-high elevation in Roanoke. Thankfully no flooding at our place over the last few days!
Jen Wachtel
10:58
Hello from Silver Spring, Maryland!
Jose Ortiz
11:18
hi everyone
Alexander Grosby
11:27
Hello from Portsmouth!
Bernice Baker
11:32
Hello from Richmond VA Happy Tuesday!
Katharine Kosin
11:36
Hello from DC!
Tito CHAN
11:42
Hello Everyone !
Joanna Jennings
12:16
Hello from Central New York!
Gilbey Lund
12:19
Hello for the penultimate Career in Transition from Leicester in England
Suzanne Grobbel
12:41
Hello from Round Hill, VA - perfect porch weather here today!
Leslie Naranjo
13:21
Hello All, from Richmond VA
Laura Yakulis
16:43
Yes
Minh-Thu Nguyen
16:44
yes, always
Joanna Jennings
16:46
It depends
Hannah Powell
16:47
It depends
Krista deKryger
16:49
Yes 100%
Olivia Lacher
16:50
yes
Alexander Grosby
16:50
It depends
Andrew Coulomb
16:50
yes!
Jen Wachtel
16:51
it depends
Joanne Grant
16:51
Yes!
Deena Sasser
16:52
It depends
Katharine Kosin
16:52
Yes, can’t hurt
Laura Cole
16:52
Yes!
Suzanne Grobbel
16:54
Yes
tneikirk
16:54
Yes
LisaMiller
16:56
yes
Helen P Ross
16:58
MOst definitely
Tamara Schlossenberg
16:59
Yes, it is your best chance to sell yourself
Amanda Shields
16:59
Yes
Katharine Stewart
17:00
It depends
Erin Clark
17:01
it depends
Bernice Baker
17:01
Yes, it's more personal
Stephanie Carter
17:03
yes
Gilbey Lund
17:13
It depends on the type of application as could be personal statement
Alexander Grosby
17:21
If asked for by job description
Erin Clark
17:22
if they ask for one or not. I dont give it unless they ask for it
Joanna Jennings
17:31
If the opportunity comes to you through networking it may not be necessary
Deena Sasser
17:32
Whether or not they ask for one.
gracepierce
17:32
Yes, I have noticed in my museum that they turn away from app with no cover letter. They consider it a red flag.
Jen Wachtel
17:45
Federal postings generally do not request a cover letter
Hannah Powell
17:47
Depends on what the posting asks for (I've been told that cover letters for government jobs are a no no)
Leslie Naranjo
17:54
Yes, plan on it but some transitioning to job that are brief online national applications there is No way to attach a cover letter.
Jacquelyn Ainlay-Conley
18:32
Yes unless it is a job application site that doesn't allow for letters or documents.
Kim Frola
19:54
Absolutely, unless the instructions indicate that it should not be included. If it says it is optional, include it. I have served on numerous panels at a variety of organizations including at the Federal Government level, and most of my colleagues have wanted to see one even if they do not review it closely. Watch out for typos and spelling errors!
Deena Sasser
19:55
That's what I meant, yes. If they say they don't want/need one, they will see that as an inability to follow directions.
Katharine Kosin
20:15
Is it still worth including a cover letter even for federal jobs, in case you get through the AI filter, for when your application sees a human?
Katie Reynolds
24:22
2.5 page cover letter is way too long. I’d stop reading.
Joanna Jennings
24:58
I agree with Katie. 2.5 pages doesn’t sound targeted enough!
Bayla Arietta
27:15
how do you use an active voice and minimize "I" statements at the same time
Katharine Kosin
27:35
Good question, Bayla~!
Deena Sasser
27:55
I excel at proofing other people's work. My own? Not so much. I always look for a proofreader!
Joanna Jennings
28:48
Sometimes pdfing a word processing doc helps to spot errors if you don’t have another set of eyes
Katharine Kosin
29:24
Isn’t every single person writing to get a job? Isn’t that cliched
Deena Sasser
30:11
Agreed, Joanna. I love the built in proofreaders.
Katharine Kosin
32:04
Like I understand in this case, but if you just found a job on Indeed or something like that, is it important to tell them that?
Helen P Ross
38:34
Great! Now did you get the interview?
Helen P Ross
39:02
Wow! nice:)
Jennie Chaplin
39:09
Impressive cover letter:)
Joanna Jennings
39:23
Interesting technique using the keywords to develop the main body content. Suddenly I feel a lot less daunted!
Kim Frola
39:24
Including information about where you found or heard about the position (including Indeed) is helpful to some organizations that use it to guide their marketing/advertising strategies.
Katharine Kosin
40:30
Kim: Though if elsewhere in the application they ask that, or if you can mention it in your email body, maybe that wouldn’t be needed as much?
Kim Frola
43:18
Then not so much, but it can come in handy for starting the conversation in the cover letter. Also, remember that the e-mail message may or may not be sent along with the cover letter to the full panel.
Deena Sasser
44:54
I have website/linkedin info in the header. Is that ok?
Joanna Jennings
45:07
If you have a recently published article is this a good opportunity to mention it?
Katharine Kosin
46:58
Good point, thanks Kim.
Katharine Kosin
47:20
Jose is here!
Tamara Schlossenberg
47:24
Jose is here
Alexander Grosby
47:24
I hear him!
Kat Burkhart
47:25
yes
Jen Wachtel
47:25
we still have Jose
Erin Clark
47:29
I hear Jose
Jen Wachtel
47:31
I hear Jose
Jacquelyn Ainlay-Conley
47:34
Jose was talking.
Helen P Ross
47:34
Yes I can hear you!
Hannah Gaston
47:37
We can all hear Jose!
Jennie Chaplin
47:40
I hear Jose
Jacquelyn Ainlay-Conley
47:47
We can hear him Greg/
Erin Clark
47:58
I think Greg is having connectivity issues and lagging
Angela Claude
48:02
I get the impression from a lot of job postings that they don’t want you contacting them. Should you still include the line about following up?
Hannah Powell
49:10
A little off topic, but if a writing example is requested but I don't have any professional writing, what would I do? I have things from college but when is it too far out to keep using things like that?
Tamara Schlossenberg
49:47
Hannah, do you have any blogs or writings you have done for other jobs?
Gilbey Lund
50:22
usually if not heard 3 weeks after deadline
Hannah Powell
50:24
Tamara - a couple things from internships. Nothing from paid employment unforunately
Minh-Thu Nguyen
50:40
I'm in a similar boat as Hannah, except I work as a ghostwriter so I can't use anything I've written professionally
Tamara Schlossenberg
51:27
It is still professional writing. I am just out of school so my school writing are my most recent writing samples.
Joanna Jennings
52:32
Would if your “hook” is through skills rather than a personal visit to the workplace/locale/musuem?
Kim Frola
52:47
The cover letter style that Greg opted for in this case can be utilized for Federal Gov't. applications in which applicants are often asked to indicate how they meet the KSAs. Oftentimes, there is no other place to indicate this, and by noting it in the cover letter saves the reader from having to search for it in the résumé or to make the connections on their own.
Jen Wachtel
53:26
How do you demonstrate a personal connection to the museum if you have never visited (because it is far away) and were not referred by a current staff member?
Tamara Schlossenberg
54:23
Maybe do some research online? Is there a collection they have that particularly interests you?
Joanna Jennings
58:26
I question the use of the word refurbishing
Bernice Baker
01:00:51
At some point should the person indicate that lack of hands on in a botanical museum
Katharine Kosin
01:04:55
For federal jobs, is it ever worth including a cover letter even if they don’t ask for one? Like in case it gets far enough in the process for a person to see the package?
Katharine Kosin
01:05:08
(If there is a place to upload one)
Alexander Grosby
01:05:18
No
Tamara Schlossenberg
01:05:20
no
Angela Claude
01:05:22
after
Jen Wachtel
01:05:23
no
Katherine Somerville
01:05:24
NO!
Laura Yakulis
01:05:25
No
Helen P Ross
01:05:25
No.
LisaMiller
01:05:28
no
gracepierce
01:05:28
Is it possible to watch resume session somewhere?
Bernice Baker
01:05:31
Absolutely not!
tneikirk
01:05:31
Based on this session no.
Jennie Chaplin
01:05:34
would not trust it
Joanna Jennings
01:05:37
In light of this workshop, NO!
Gilbey Lund
01:05:41
no
Leslie Naranjo
01:05:43
No.
Katharine Kosin
01:05:58
No, but could copy similar phrases from other cover letters perhaps if the job asks for similar skills
Suzanne Grobbel
01:06:07
Not really - tweaking would take more time than writing from scratch.
Leslie Naranjo
01:07:14
Greg's info here provides a good outline to make sure you have all the elements and express it in the cover fitting the position..
tneikirk
01:09:46
Thank yo Greg and Jose!
Tamara Schlossenberg
01:10:24
How does the cover letter change if you are applying for an internship or fellowship? Should you highlight what the position will do for you in those cases?
Katharine Kosin
01:10:28
Thank you Jose and Greg!
Jennie Chaplin
01:10:31
Abundant thanks to Greg and Jose
Joanne Grant
01:10:39
Thanks again Greg and Jose!
Helen P Ross
01:10:48
Thanks so much for your insights! Very helpful.
Jen Wachtel
01:10:53
thank you for this series so far
Tito CHAN
01:10:55
Many thanks Greg, Jose !
Joanna Jennings
01:11:04
A timely topic and very helpful information. Thank you, Greg and Jose!
Kat Burkhart
01:11:06
Thanks for creating this program! Very helpful.
Suzanne Grobbel
01:11:21
Thanks for doing these sessions!
Gilbey Lund
01:11:35
Thank you Greg for another amazing webinar is a shame that the webinars are finishing on Thursday