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Jennifer Liguori
02:03
hi Dawn!! it’s jenlovesaqua 👋🏼
Erin Quinn
02:07
Welcome!
Maribeth Bousum
02:11
Oklahoma
Tristan RowLee
02:18
Ohio mama here!
Allison Brown
02:18
VA
Tami Wall
02:20
Hello from Norther CA!
Jennifer Horton
02:20
Massachusetts
Becky McLaughlin
02:21
Hi from north Carolina!
Meagan Jones
02:21
Dallas, TX
Nicole Pate
02:21
Good morning from CA
Susie Robertson
02:21
Pennsylvania
Amanda Smith
02:21
Hi from Ottawa, Canada!
Charity Troyer
02:22
Hello from TN!
Lara Keever
02:22
Hello again from north central KS!
Rosalie Danek
02:23
Hi from BC Canada
Jennifer Liguori
02:23
I’m in SoCal!
Janice Duthie
02:23
Hi, from Scotland
Becky Jenks
02:23
Oklahoma too!
Karen Murphy
02:23
Hello! Joining from Chicago!
M D
02:24
Seattle
Karen Reddick
02:25
Olympia washington
Terrean Schmidgall
02:26
Colorado!
Muriel Croston
02:26
Virginia
Colleen Bukach
02:30
Vancouver, Canada
Gina Tampio
02:30
hello from NY
Elizabeth Whitby
02:32
hi from England
Jennifer Clark
02:32
Hi from CT!
Dani Sellier
02:33
Magnolia Texas :-)
Jelene Donatlan
02:34
Colorado
Stephanie Tuttle
02:35
Rochester, NY
lubov byrum
02:36
NC
Jen Phillips
02:37
Iowa
Jennifer Liguori
02:37
nice to see your sweet face ❤️
Drea Knoell
02:44
Colorado
Craig Schneider
02:47
Hi from Santa Barbara
Tanya
02:47
Birmingham, UK.
Annie Chabot
03:29
I'm from Quebec- the french speaking part of Canada ! So happy to be here with you.
Erin Quinn
03:36
Hello, and welcome!
lubov byrum
03:50
I work and homeschool!:) You make it work!
elisa p
05:10
hi from Canada...also Quebec
Becky Czerwonka
06:20
Hi from Sacramento, CA
Julie Bogart
07:37
Matilde, are you a native speaker?
Julie Bogart
08:07
Our program does offer a lot of help and support for writing and understanding those items. You can learn alongside your kids.
Julie Bogart
08:24
The products are designed to help parents understand, not just the children.
Julie Bogart
09:10
Our online classes may be helpful to non-native speakers as well.
Julie Bogart
09:23
https://bravewriter.com/online-classes
Erin Quinn
09:41
Our children's ability to think and talk has progressed beyond their ability to apply handwriting, mechanics, and spelling to the page.
Erin Quinn
10:23
So they can either dumb down their ideas to match their writing ability, or they can ignore the mechanics and get their sophisticated thoughts on the page.
Jennifer Jones
10:30
Julie, is there a place in Brave Learner Home to connect with parents local to our area? It’s encouraging to see that here.
Julie Bogart
10:31
At first, kids will either choose to write accurately (but with less sophisticated language) or they will write what they think but it may be filled with inaccuracies in mechanics.
Allison Brown
10:42
Both of my kids are anxious about writing. They have anxiety. They refuse to really try to write anything because they care about spelling and all that. They have never just tried, even when they were little. They both have learning disabilities. I'm always thrilled when they write anything.
Julie Bogart
10:42
Jennifer, we hope to see that happen, yes!
Nicole Kelso
11:00
How much of this philosophy should I explain to my kids? That their sophisticated thoughts are challenging to put down that way on paper.
Julie Bogart
11:05
Allison, it’s great to support their attempts! Good for you.
Karen Taggart
11:28
Great question Nicole!
Julie Bogart
11:30
Nicole, telling them is great! You can even begin by jotting down their thoughts for them! Let them see their amazing vocabulary on the page.
Erin Quinn
11:42
You don't have to explain the philosophy to your children. You can show them by engaging with their ideas and ignoring the mechanical mistakes.
SARA Robison
11:58
Dawn, you are still my homeschool role model.❤️
BRITTANY ALESSIO
12:01
<3
Erin Quinn
12:14
You can also take the pen and jot down their ideas yourself letting them know you want to help get their valued thoughts down on paper.
Erin Quinn
13:49
When you have perfectionist, it can help to create a list of words she might need during writing and spell them out in a highly visible key ahead of time.
Julie Bogart
13:55
Suzanne, that may be that she has internalized the idea that accuracy is the way to be heard. You might try having her write without you seeing the writing (let her read it to you without you looking at it). See if that helps.
Julie Bogart
14:17
The facts they know
Erin Quinn
15:31
Thank you, Craig! It's such a fun class!
Dani Sellier
15:42
This transcription- it is still good for teens, or does it "embarrass" them when you share what they said earlier
Julie Bogart
16:04
We’ve heard that teens often feel validated when they see you write down what they say.
rosy akhtar
16:14
I struggle with the grammar aspect
Amanda Murray
16:35
Sometimes I can't "Jot" fast enough to catch my (extremely writing-resistant) son's creative ideas. I've found that he loves to record himself on my phone...then I transcribe it for him, and have him copy a small bit on his own later. Sometimes he's ok with the copying, and sometimes not so much....but he always has the opportunity to get his thoughts out...and we celebrate his stories <3
Julie Bogart
16:36
Lena, it can be helpful to her! She could even use the recording to type it up (or at least a portion of it).
Becky Tay
16:37
What about kids who are lazy to think more broadly? Not so much as anxious about the mechanics, but resistant to applying the mind, seeing 'Writing' as a drag that's just going to take time out of their day and keep them from getting to 'play'?
Erin Quinn
16:39
Yes! It's a great idea to help her record these ideas.
Dani Sellier
17:04
Is it a "no no" to include something in copywork that is an intentional yet "incorrect" usage of punctuation?
rosy akhtar
17:13
my daughters have all these ideas but cant put it on paper
Julie Bogart
17:14
Becky, start with the Jot It Down process. Then you will move to freewriting and it is a practice you will do with your child. We teach it in the bravewriter.com/blitz and in our classes/products.
Julie Bogart
18:20
All kids have lots to say. Catch them in the act of self-expression and jot it down for them. Then share it later with the family at dinner. Let the wrier HEAR her words shared with an interested audience.
Erin Quinn
18:22
Becky, you might take the writing out completely for a while and focus on the value of the big, juicy conversations. Your child might come to see those deep conversations as rewarding the "threat" of having to write it down is removed for a while.
Julie Bogart
18:42
Erin, good advice!
Julie Bogart
19:52
Yep.
shannon cox
20:56
Is Jot It down a full writing curriculum?
Nicole Kelso
21:01
Amanda Murray, I love that idea. Mimics what reporters would do today in an interview. Both record and take notes
Amanda Murray
21:25
Dani...I would include "intentional yet incorrect" punctuation or grammar in copywork...and have them find the errors ;)...then the two of you could talk about how it could be corrected
Julie Bogart
21:38
Yes
Julie Bogart
22:38
https://store.bravewriter.com/collections/original-thought/products/the-writers-jungle
Julie Bogart
22:41
Read more here.
Erin Quinn
23:20
When in doubt, I would start with Jot It Down. All the projects can be done with significantly older children when you adjust the content to their interest level.
Alison Moorhead
23:29
Does Dawn have each page in a page protector? Use tabs? Please show us inside the binder.
Julie Bogart
23:55
I believe she has is printed with tab dividers
Julie Bogart
24:10
The Writer’s Jungle is for families with kids who already read and handwrite a little.
Mary Miller
24:19
We are on year 3 of jot it down..and starting the dart for my son this year. 6 and 8 year olds. My daughter is working on her bird book. I hope to get through it this year.
Julie Bogart
24:23
Help for High School:
Julie Bogart
24:24
https://store.bravewriter.com/collections/original-thought/products/help-for-high-school
Janice Duthie
24:25
Whilst doing the keen observation task, is it best to leave the writing as a raw piece, or do a second draft?
Erin Quinn
24:27
The Partnership Writing Bundle includes the The Writer's Jungle.
Gina Tampio
24:34
we did the fairy tale jot it down projects with a range from 6-14 yr old boys and they loved it! so much created and learned. so yes I second jot it down can really be done with any age.
Julie Bogart
24:41
Janice, that’s up to you and your kids. You can leave it or turn it into a paragraph!
Erin Quinn
24:57
Leave the Keen Observation as it is, unless you later choose to take it through the revision process.
Janice Duthie
25:02
Thanks Julie.
Moreah Scarletts
25:35
Is Jot it Down included as of the Dart program as well?
Tami Wall
25:49
I have 3 kids I’ll be teaching (for the first time): 3rd, 6th, and 9th grade. Should I have the curriculum overlap or do the three separate programs?
Julie Bogart
25:51
I hope so too Jacqueline!
Mary Miller
25:53
No, moreah.. seperate
Julie Bogart
26:24
Tami, try to pick one bundle and use it with the younger two. Then for the 9th grader, try Help for High School and Boomerang and take a look at our online classes.
Karen Taggart
26:29
Moreah I believe you can get those in a bundle?
Julie Bogart
26:34
For the youngers, I’d say Partnership Writing Bundle
Amanda Smith
26:37
My older kids have been enrolled in public school, going into grade 6, 4 and 2. Could one of the guides be adopted for all those levels?
Tami Wall
26:40
Okay, thanks, Julie!
Julie Bogart
26:55
Here are all the bundles!
Julie Bogart
26:56
https://store.bravewriter.com/collections/bundles
Julie Bogart
27:13
Marisa, yes. Revise and edit one freewrite in 8.
Julie Bogart
27:28
Writer’s Jungle is PERFECT for a family with 11-12 year olds!
Erin Quinn
27:41
The Arrow is great for those age groups, Jen.
Julie Bogart
27:42
YEs Marisa.
M D
27:50
Engage them — yes please!!
Julie Bogart
28:06
WE are highly flexible. Skip around!
Nicole Kelso
28:13
My plan is to use Dart with my gifted 6yo (1st grade who reads at a 3rd grade plus level) and Arrow with my gifted 4th/5th graders (who read at 11/12th grade levels). What do you think about that Julie? Because their reading input is so high...but their writing output is only slightly above average. New homeschooler, so teachers couldn't really push my kids to write more strongly in a classroom setting.
Julie Bogart
28:23
I meant revise one freewrite out of 8 freewrites.
Erin Quinn
28:23
Kathleen, you can pick and choose books. Choose the ones that interest you most.
Moreah Scarletts
28:24
I have purchased Dart for my almost 8 year old. We are brand new to Brave Writer…Perhaps I should have purchased Jot it Down instead??
Erin Quinn
28:40
The Dart and Jot it Down work together.
Julie Bogart
28:55
Jot it Down is the original writing portion (creative writing). Dart is for mechanics and reading.
Rosalie Danek
28:59
Remember to select “All panelist and attendees” in the chat so we can all benefit from your questions.
shannon cox
29:05
Is it NECESSARY to have or to have read Writer's Jungle to purchase project products...such as jot it down?
Jen Morgan
29:19
I have a second and fourth grader. Which would you recommend for them Julie?
Julie Bogart
29:23
Joy, yes, Wand can still work beautifully with Jot It Down.
Erin Quinn
29:26
Shannon, you can start with the projects and literature
Erin Quinn
29:45
We don't recommend getting into The Writer's Jungle until you child is at least 8 years old.
Jennifer Calhoun
29:50
So there are sample routines in The Arrows?
Moreah Scarletts
29:55
Can I switch to the Jot it Down program?
Erin Quinn
30:14
We have planner pages in both the literature programs and the writing projects.
Erin Quinn
31:04
Jot it Down and the Dart work hand-in-hand. The Dart teaches mechanics and literature, and Jot It Down develops original writing.
h t
31:09
can you put the “ages” for each again? Partnership vs Faltering?
Alison Moorhead
31:12
I already purchased Partnership for my 10 yr old. Should I start with Jot it Down if she is very creative but has very little writing training?
Mary Miller
31:14
I wish I had purchased the bundle a few years back. I was only thinking we were going to homeschool through 3rd grade. Now we
April Young
31:15
Are you suppose to read the writers jungle each chapter with your child? Or read it separate?
Liz Frost
31:17
If you have multiple age groups but love the group learning, Julie once advised me to do alternate months. So one month arrow, the next boomerang.and the same with the writing projects. This has worked so well with my family that I don’t do it any other way! :)
Andrea Deaton
31:24
which programs come with the planner pages?
Mary Miller
31:26
Are planning to go all the way..
Marisa Yeh
31:32
is partnership writing meant to do just for 1 year and then move on to faltering ownership? or repeat for a few years if they aren't quire ready for faltering ownership?
Erin Quinn
31:34
The Writer's Jungle is written to you, the parent.
LEEANN HUNTINGTON
31:35
I know Julie has addressed this in the past, but I need to refresh, how to tackle programs such as Jot it down and faltering ownership when you have stufents who span 3-4 products? My children are are 13 to 1, 5 children.
April Young
31:45
Thank you
Erin Quinn
31:50
The Dart and the Arrow are both great to guide read alouds.
Gina Tampio
32:19
Liz we alternate as well and works out perfectly for us.
Julie Bogart
32:29
Yes to flipping back and forth. I often recommend if you buy two levels, alternate months and projects.
Erin Quinn
32:54
You can absolutely mix and match programs. When you are teaching multiple children, you can alternate months to make it manageable to work with your different age groupings.
shannon cox
32:57
I bought Jot It Down a few years ago...
shannon cox
33:14
But...I don't believe I ever purchased Writer's Jungle
Sharon Raines
33:18
Allison, good question I have as well: I already purchased Partnership for my 10 yr old. Should I start with Jot it Down if she is very creative but has very little writing training?
Macbook
33:44
I have 15 kids ages 6 - 12 what programs do you suggest I use, I love the concept but am confused with all the bundles and programs. Thanks!
Julie Bogart
33:47
Try what you own and if you see the need to add, then purchase. Give yourself a chance to explore the investment you’ve already made. :)
Alison Moorhead
34:02
Thank you @Sharon
Julie Bogart
34:06
Go here and watch these videos to help you make good purchase decisions:
Gina Tampio
34:12
Shannon not sure if you could do WJ as an on-line class but it taught me so much that translated to helping all of my kids.
Julie Bogart
34:21
https://bravewriter.com/getting-started
Michelle Harding
34:49
hello, could I flip back and forth between Dart and Arrow for my 10 year old who is resistant to reading but loves to write stories?
Elizabeth Groulx
35:00
Do I need to add something to my cart to access the Home program?
Dani Sellier
35:06
My daughter- 14- is just starting off on her BW journey and NOT a fan of any writing. I plan to start her out at the JID level and see how that goes- should I be cautious or mindful of how long I stay at that level before moving on to Partnership with her? I want her to really "Get" the value of her voice/ideas, but also not go backwards on her writing some things down. How long should I generally expect to stay at that level?
Erin Quinn
35:21
You can use Jot It Down with any age. Your older children may want to take more ownership of the project, and that is great!
Julie Bogart
35:28
I would start with Partnership with a 14 year old.
Jennifer Denham
35:39
Is the Writers Jungle online the same as the one in print?
Julie Bogart
35:52
The online class is drawn from the Writer’s Jungle, yes.
Erin Quinn
36:01
The Writer's Jungle Online is a class with a coach who will guide you through The Writer's Jungle and provide feedback to you and on your child's writing.
Mary Miller
36:10
Picture books have been a great way to introduce racial injustice and diversity learning.
Julie Bogart
36:18
Mary: true!!
Gail Laxen
36:21
Dani, how does your 14 year old feel about talk to text? Is it just moving the pencil/typing that she dislikes?
Sharon Raines
36:25
(Random thought: Any thoughts about taking the age range off of the materials? My child with the gift of dyslexia gets discouraged seeing things assigned for ages younger than him.)
Jennifer Denham
36:29
So, if we are doing the online class now, during summer. Would the print version be beneficial or a duplicate?
Marisa Yeh
36:44
ideas for when to introduce typing?
Julie Bogart
36:46
We have taken them off of the projects covers now, I believe. We use Stages rather than ages.
Annie Chabot
37:09
Since I've "allowed" my 9 years old to go back to reading picture books, she is reading way more and with joy.
Julie Bogart
37:15
Jennifer you can skip the Writer’s Jungle if you are in the class. Purchase a Writing Projects product.
Julie Bogart
37:20
Yes
Jennifer Denham
37:26
ok, thanks
Erin Quinn
37:31
If you're taking the class, I encourage you to print out the resources to save for later.
Allison Brown
37:31
Any talk to text work better than others? My teen has issues that it doesn't catch all their words clearly, let alone punctuation.
Sharon Raines
37:32
(Thanks, Julie. Looking at JID online and one shot shows it on the cover. Probably an old photo.)
h t
37:46
how do you turn around their ‘hate” of writing and that they aren’t good at writing?? they do struggle with original thought writing, but love to read. They used the same tools in school (dictation, copy work) but were also given the 5 sentences minimum paragraphs and essay outlines with questions to answer for their “original” writing that were a bit unintuitive. It’s a bit of unschooling that needs to happen, but how?
Jayne Hatcher
37:47
for typing --> BBC dance mat typing is free and a good start all online
h t
37:54
what poetry book? I missed it
Julie Bogart
38:02
That’s likely. I know for sure that Faltering has Stage 3 on it for that reason. I will check with Dawn to see if we made the change on the other two.
Melissa Zavala
38:05
I second the removal of age, dyslexic parent here too and it can be discouraging if they see it (i hide it if I can)
Marisa Yeh
38:06
how to choose poetry book? i have no idea where to start but would love to
Julie Bogart
38:16
check: https://poetryteatime.com
Julie Bogart
38:36
Yes to Faltering working for high school students (especially 9th-q0th)
Gina Tampio
39:08
we ♥️poetry tea time website!!
Liz Frost
39:12
Michael Rosen has brilliant videos on YouTube of performing poetry my children have copied, and brought to poetry tea time :)
Mary Miller
39:18
“ Book of nature poetry”is wonderful
Erin Quinn
39:23
For kids that are already resistant, open up a conversation. Explore with them and let them in on the fact that you are on their side and working to make writing a better experience for them. Bring them into the decision making process regarding how much and when and where to do these activities.
Jennifer Denham
39:29
I agree on the age front. My son has Down Syndrome, so a little different than for those with dyslexia, but it’s still better without.
Jayne Hatcher
40:13
h t : how do they "already" write? do they text their friends or write emails? do they make lists to keep track of things? See how they naturally write and figure out ways to explore that into more formal writing. Just an idea that has worked for me in the past with my older kiddos.
Andrea Deaton
40:15
AHH I had not realized there was an whole website for tea time. Thanks!
Nicole Snyder
40:21
any suggestions on a great book of collection of the “around the world”
Khyati Ghodadra
40:41
we are in writer’s jungle on line class .what products we can purchase to support this program? for my 9 year old?
Gina Tampio
41:01
Nicole check out Jaime C Martin’s give your child the world
Erin Quinn
41:02
When trying to decide which products to buy, you can start with a sample of each of them: http://go.bravewriter.com/brave-writer-sampler
M D
41:06
Captain underpants!
Nicole Snyder
41:31
thanks Gina!
Jen Morgan
41:50
Are the books on your book lists living books?
Mary Miller
41:53
We let Dog Man into the house and it was the catalyst for my son learning to read…I don’t regret it but I still can’t stand it…now he’s reading everything
h t
42:14
@jayne hatcher- they don’t “already write” yet” with tech or otherwise…it’s all been at school, (oops) However, you made me think - and maybe a pen pal would be a good start -thank you!
Erin Quinn
42:44
We deliberately pick a wide mix for our titles. We mix classics with the newest award winners. We have diverse authors, diverse protagonists, and diverse genres.
Andrea Deaton
42:44
Same, Mary...Dog Man makes me nuts, but opened my son's willingness to read books.
Jennifer Denham
42:48
my kids love a pen pal. Got them writing instantly!
Amanda Smith
43:01
For “read alouds” do the kids take turns reading outloud or is the intention for them to sit back and listen?
Jayne Hatcher
43:09
h t, yes that would be a great idea!
Erin Quinn
43:14
Amanda, they sit back and listen.
Mary Miller
43:31
Exactly, Andrea. Same
Jennifer Liguori
43:56
Adventures of Tintin books was the catalyst for my struggling reader!
Allison Brown
44:19
What about constantly choosing to read the same two series?
Becky Czerwonka
44:25
My younger son loves graphic novels. It got him into reading.
Zainab Rahman
44:29
my 6 year old now often takes the book away from me during read aloud and likes to read it out loud to me -
Erin Quinn
44:48
Kimberly, my son did that with a graphic novel series too. He was on it from ages 9-11. Thankfully he has now moved on and is reading a wide variety (he's thirteen)
Rosalie Danek
44:53
What were the 5 things again?
Mary Miller
45:00
Yes, same Zainab
Kerry Fleming
45:08
Does JID guide include how to adjust for older children?
h t
45:10
for read alouds - any suggestions on helping an older child with phonics or how to sound out (or another method) to help with harder words. (one child has figured it out and one hasn’t…)
Becky Jenks
45:18
Can Jot it Down work for a 7 year old?
Marisa Yeh
45:22
for free write, we have been slowly increasing the timer from 2 to 5 minutes as they seem comfortable, do i just keep doing that or is there a max time?
Mary Miller
45:51
Yes, Becky!
Julie Bogart
45:59
Marisa, there’s no required time. We built up to 20 minutes for fun once and it was awesome!
Erin Quinn
46:00
For required freewrites, we recommend capping at 10 minutes for younger kids, but you can go longer with older kids.
h t
46:49
if a child doesn’t like to write freely, perhaps JIT is the better place to start? Is there a sample of it online? I know there are samples for Arrrows, etc.
Mary Miller
46:55
Reminds me of morning pages in the artist’s way
Erin Quinn
47:13
A selection of samples is available here: http://go.bravewriter.com/brave-writer-sampler
Jen Morgan
48:26
WHat is that mary?
Reenie Ruckdaeschel
48:30
I did not intend this result or explore language learning for this reason, but a surprising benefit of exploring a second language was that of phonics awareness. I don't know if this would be beneficial in a really young child - my own were older when we entered into the idea of second language learning.
Mary Miller
48:44
The skills tracker was a fantastic addition! The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
Erin Quinn
48:44
https://blog.bravewriter.com/category/friday-freewrite/
Jen Morgan
49:05
thanks
Audrey Butters
49:24
got on late, Will recordings be sent out?
Julie Bogart
49:49
Marie we have webinars that do share that information and we’ll do more of that in the Brave Learner Home.
Julie Bogart
49:58
Recordings go out 24 hours after the session.
Audrey Butters
50:04
thank you!
Nicole Kelso
50:55
This has been phenomenal. Thank you!
Liz Frost
51:09
Your amazing Dawn; excellent!
Michelle Harding
51:10
Thank you!
Sharon Raines
51:11
THANK YOU!
Kerry Fleming
51:11
So great! Thank you so much
Gina Tampio
51:11
I want Dawn to homeschool me!
Mary Miller
51:17
Yes, gina
Tami Wall
51:17
Thanks so much, Dawn!
Dani Sellier
51:18
when you have an envelope of several freewrites and want to revisit them, what would they be used for? ONe of the writing projects, or something else??
Heather Moritz
51:18
Thanks Dawn!
Meleah Fuller
51:19
Thank you Dawn!
h t
51:19
thank you so much!!!
Jennifer Zubov
51:22
Thank you Dawn
Liz Frost
51:23
8you're
Jen Morgan
51:27
loved it!
Jennifer Jones
51:28
Thank you!
Erin Quinn
51:32
The envelope is for freewrites.
Mary Miller
51:38
Thanks, Dawn!
Elizabeth Zuwerink
51:56
Thank you!!! Love all these pointers and reminders!
Erin Quinn
52:10
rootinlanguage.com/webinar
Jennifer Denham
52:23
Awesome, thank you for the info for the Special Needs webinar!
Dani Sellier
52:25
@Erin I heard that part, but then a suggestion was that they go back to them after collecting a few and pick one to develop?
Becky Tay
52:26
Loved it!
Susie Robertson
52:29
Thank you Julie and Dawn!
Becky Czerwonka
52:33
thanks
Erin Quinn
52:34
Yes, Dani!
Mandie Buxton
52:36
Thank you ladies!!!!
Mary Miller
52:39
Thanks y’all!!
Amanda Murray
52:44
This was great Dawn <3 It was fun to "see" you!
Dani Sellier
52:45
Thank you all!!!