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Rich Broughton
14:48
Good Morning from Las Vegas to you all
Paige Balsinger
15:02
Hello from All Around Charters - SWFL
Jim Torrisi
15:07
E. Templeton Ma
Rhonda Bilbrey
15:09
Greetings from Abilene, Tx - Bilbrey Tours
Cindy Kessinger-Giles
15:09
Good morning from Spokane WA
Lori Casey
15:12
Hello from Springfield Missouri
Harold Lewis Jr
15:14
Hello from Nawlins!
Brenda Tidwell
15:17
Brenda from Emerson, GA
Jason Briggs
15:17
Portland Maine
jerri smith
15:18
Hello form Pensacola, FL
John Sambdman
15:21
Hi all from Atlanta, GA from Samson Tours
Trisha Fridrich
15:22
Hello from Raleigh, NC!
Alan Thrasher
15:25
Good Day from Birmingham Alabama!
Tom Sambdman
15:29
Hello all from sunny Atlanta, GA
Reginald Gardner
15:29
Good afternoon, Southern Express Coach, South Carolina
Jim Lienhart
15:32
Hello from Little Rock Ar Jim Lienhart Arrow Coach Lines
Vicki Shafer
15:39
Hello from Upstate NY
bryce snyder
15:41
HELLO EVEYONE FROM SEATTLE WA (LILY COACHES )
Michael McDaniels
15:44
Hello from Shriver Insurance in IL
Michelle Wiltgen
15:55
Good afternoon everyone - Michelle Wiltgen from National Interstate - rainy south Florida
Randy Angell
15:55
Hello from Temsa Gang
Coachlight Tours
15:55
Elizabeth from Hardeeville SC COACHLIGHT Tours
John Kruger
16:18
Hello from Onondaga Coach Tours - Auburn, NY
Marcus Ardrey
16:23
Hello Marcus from Evans Tours
J.H. Byrd
16:32
Hello from Salter Trailways
Lauren Grote
16:45
Hello from Maryland :)
Mike McDonal
16:53
Good afternoon from Baltimore
Jeff Goldwasser
17:19
Hello from NJ - & Amaya Seating !
Rick Reisig
17:22
Hello from Great Lakes Motorcoach, Grand Rapids MI
Antonio Thomas
17:38
Good Afternoon Everyone, thank you for joining us for today’s Town Hall Meeting. If you have any questions about membership or becoming a member of UMA please contact me at athomas@uma.org or call (703) 838-2929
Andy Byars
17:38
Good afternoon from Temsa North America.
Kevin Creighton
17:57
Avalon Transportation Santa Clara Ca
Rhonda Bilbrey
18:23
Congrats John Adams!!
Tony Pederson
18:23
Hello from MCI Financial Services!
Armando miranda
19:39
Hello everyones from WA State
Tom Sambdman
20:41
Trisha has been doing an amazing job. Thank you for your hard work!
Chris Roane
20:54
Hello from BEST-VIP Chauffeured in SoCal
Robert Lessor
21:01
Hello from MCI Dallas Texas
Trisha Fridrich
21:03
trisha@thelwteam.com
Daniel Tomlinson
22:08
Hello from Lancer Insurance
PAUL ESHAGHI
22:40
Hello from Corporate Coach Charter Los Angeles, CA
Dennis Streif
23:07
Hello Everyone
Dennis Streif
23:17
Vandalia Bus Lines,
Mary Presley
23:41
We appreciate everything TF and her team are doing to Keep The Wheel’s Rolling.
Constance Giddens
23:51
You’re awesome Trisha!! ❤️👏👍🏻🚌🥰
Larry Killingsworth
24:55
Thanks Trisha…great job!
Larry Killingsworth
25:14
Welcome all!
Debby Bernier
25:37
Alan's audio is awful
Vicki Shafer
26:01
Yes, the audio is awful
Jeff Goldwasser
26:09
The Gang of 11, the Motorcoach Industry super heroes !
Brenda Tidwell
26:28
I thought it was my computer! Audio is really bad!
Personnel Safety
28:08
Do we have to be forgiven on the first draw before we get 2nd draw?
Trisha Fridrich
28:34
Big kudos to Mike Canine, Kyle DeVivo, Terry Fischer, Greg Gallup, Pattie Cowley, Jeff Greteman, Eric Elliott, Adam Hall, Clint Guth, John Meier, Luke Busskohl!
Brenda Tidwell
29:42
SBA what?
Eric Elliott
30:05
GA, WI, and TX operators, if your Rep. is not a co-sponsor on CERTS, please email me to coordinate our efforts as Trisha mentioned. eric.elliott@distinctivesystems.com
Larry Killingsworth
30:33
Thanks Trisha for sharing the hard working 12!
Personnel Safety
32:01
HR 7806 (Save our Stages Act) for concert halls, Broadway, etc is apparently in current Bill.
John Kruger
32:15
Who will be left if we don't get something, anything in the next few days, weeks, month?
Michelle Wiltgen
32:43
Also included is a Restaurant Revitalization Fund for $120billion...
STEVE COTTLE
32:48
DID NOT RECV PPP
etj763
33:21
That is my question as well, John. I don't understand how much longer we can all hang on.
Jason Sharenow
33:44
MY bank won't take forgiveness apps yet
Trudy Dockerty
34:02
Same
Andy Byars
34:02
Airlines announced big layoffs today. Too bad we are not mentioned in the news in the same Transportation Breath?
Ginny Orr
34:22
my bank won't accept forgiveness application either
STEVE COTTLE
34:59
ANDY..YOU TOOIK MY THUDER... YES, AIRLINES ARE GETTING NTIONAL PRESS TODAY AND ASKING FOR MORE MONEY.
Anita O'Hear
35:00
Tracy , can you post the short form rules for the ppp forgiveness
Ginny Orr
35:02
100+ in CA too
Marcus Ardrey
35:19
My bank said they would send out a forgiveness form
Larry Killingsworth
35:26
Agree Andy. We have lost more jobs than the airlines.
nancy Citti
35:27
It’s infuriating that the airline industry is whining that they need another infusion of cash, and will lay off if they don[t receive.
TIM Guldin
35:51
Bank Portals are not open yet in some cases
Douglas Anderson
35:51
Our Bank is not prepared to take PPP loan forgiveness document.
nancy Citti
36:21
How is it possible that we are the second largest movers of people and we are “forgotten”?
Andy Byars
37:17
I pound it over and over in LinkedIn, I email our congressmen and women and I send Fox News info on our plight and nothing!
Personnel Safety
37:22
The new "related party" rent rule affects many of us.
Paige Balsinger
37:28
Holy Cow! No second round PPP until forgiveness with no forgiveness apps being processed by SBA.
Mary Presley
38:08
Tracy always does a fantastic job for the industry. Thanks Tracy for all you do to keep the operators finances straight.
Debby Bernier
38:55
my bank hasn't sent out the forgiveness application either. do you know if the forgiveness "rules" will change to include forgiveness based on loan amount. if your ppp was less than 100k, will there be a certification of records instead of having to submit all your records?
Gladys Gillis
39:03
Does “automatic forgiveness” for under $150k mean you do not have to fill out Form 3508EZ?
STEVE COTTLE
39:28
IF SBA IS ATTEMPTING TO PROCESS FORIVENESS WITH THE PRECOVID STAFF, IT'S FUTILE THAT THEY WILL BE ABLE.. ALSO, SENT IN AN AMENDMENT TO MY 2019 1040 ETC. AM TOLD THE IRS HAS SO MUCH MAIL IT'S NOT EVEN OPENED AND BEING HELD IN A TRAILER...COULD BE 6 MONTHS BEFORE I HEAR ANYTHING..
Larry Killingsworth
40:27
Nancy—two big differences: 1) we are fragmented across 3000 companies, and 2) the airlines are public companies with big money to lobby, along their unions. Damn frustrating, but we must keep pounding.
Andy Byars
40:33
That's sad news Steve.
Coachlight Tours
40:57
I applied an amendment and it took from September of last year to two weeks ago to hear from the IRS.
Gladys Gillis
41:08
Did they change the rule about submitting PPP Forgiveness requests within 6 weeks? I think your slide said 10 months! That’s GREAT!!
Personnel Safety
41:27
10 months is right.
Gladys Gillis
41:38
yay!!!
John Grzywacz
41:52
10 Months after application???
Personnel Safety
42:22
10 months after end of covered period as i understand it.
Gladys Gillis
42:27
good point. I thought they meant 10 months after end covered period
Ebmeyer Charter Bus
42:29
I'd like to know how many actually used the PPP for its intended purpose or did you keep it as a loan?
Paige Balsinger
43:04
We used PPP for it's intended purpose
Ginny Orr
43:05
used PPP to pay interest on bus loan
nancy Citti
43:39
Larry, is there a number of employees in our industry that have been laid off? Perhaps showing congress numbers in real time may have an impact?
Gladys Gillis
43:53
Do you think they will broaden “Business Mortgage” to include Bus Debt”?
Harold Lewis Jr
44:04
We used PPP for employee pay and it is now all gone.
Alyce Davidson
44:07
We used to it for the intended purpose
Personnel Safety
44:40
"unable to operate" is defined by federal or national institutions only. Not state standards as I understand it.
Ginny Orr
44:59
until banks accept the applications, we are just holding--
Debby Bernier
45:38
haven't we heard all of this information already??? and for those of us that haven't rec'd direction from our banks, this is all speculative anyway.
Larry Killingsworth
45:58
Nancy—our total industry is about 115,000. We have used as many as 100,000 have lost their job! Has gone into thousands of letters. More than the airlines.
nancy Citti
46:54
That is frightening.
Paige Balsinger
47:24
What about fuel cost as transportation expense?
Personnel Safety
47:41
fuel for buses not forgiveable.
Ginny Orr
47:42
absolutely! the industry is dying and no one is noticing
Anita O'Hear
47:53
if you can't rehire salaried people , is that a reduction of pay?
Gladys Gillis
48:11
I’m still burning $4k per month in fuel
Ebmeyer Charter Bus
48:19
Tracy...What happens when 90% of the PPP has been used? Are we forgiven for the 90% or are we on the hook for all of it?
Terry Marx
48:28
Can you include in debt interest deduction any expenses paid toward operating bus leases(TRAC)?
Gladys Gillis
48:48
where can we find the fuel inclusion? where are the FAQ’s?
Brent Kelly
48:48
go Gladys!
etj763
49:10
yea, I would be 'complaining' if I spent 4,000/month in fuel. lol...…...
bryce snyder
49:32
KEEP IT UP GLADYS
Armando miranda
49:46
oh boy
Ebmeyer Charter Bus
49:50
WOOHOO! My stress level went down.
Reginald Gardner
49:56
What's the process for applying for PPP for self employed operators with contractors.
Bill Adams
50:10
explain again the rent paid to yourself. we have a contract set up between myself and my company.
Ginny Orr
50:21
to my knowledge same application from the bank
Rhonda Bilbrey
50:55
Hard to see Tracy’s email address (in blue) please provide email address in chat. THANKS!
Tracy Fickett
51:14
tracy@busbooks.co
Ken Presley
51:21
The PPP application is currently closed.
Rhonda Bilbrey
51:31
Thanks, Tracy!
Paige Balsinger
51:55
Do we really think forgiveness before second round?
Gladys Gillis
52:17
I saw an update saying that if the land owner and the bus company owner have any common ownership, that would be ineligible for forgiveness. any thoughts on that?.
Ginny Orr
52:56
how do we get forgiveness if bank isn't accepting applications for forgiveness?
etj763
53:16
wait, what? It could take 6 months per my bank to get forgiveness...……….oh lord...…...
Erin Crosby
53:17
for PPP loans under $150K will we be required to apply for forgiveness
Personnel Safety
53:22
As I understand it in the FAQs, transportation expense does not include fuel. It is only the utility cost assessed by state and local governments.
Dan Newby
53:30
if our PPP was over $150,000 but we did not reduce salary and brought everyone back, do we qualify for eZ application.
Debby Bernier
53:52
I have the same question as erin… has this been determined???
PAUL ESHAGHI
54:24
can you list the requirements for Safe harbor again
Alan Thrasher
54:26
Same question as Dan.
Gladys Gillis
54:37
UMA is working on a letter from CDC saying the Bus Companies are eligible for Safe Harbor
Armando miranda
54:45
Gladys you ask smart questions
Ginny Orr
54:49
or as ridiculous as the SBA NOT processing applications
Dan Newby
55:06
thank you
Christy Todey
55:17
The reality is all this legislation has required a volume of work the SBA can NOT get done in the time promised
Ginny Orr
55:35
yup
Gladys Gillis
55:48
I am so excited to learn that if the money gets forgiven, it won’t be considered Taxable Income!! yay!!
Personnel Safety
56:13
Gladys - see related party rent rules. common ownership of lessor and lessee means rent/lease payments are not forgiveable.
Tom Sambdman
56:27
We could all work for the SBA and help them process paperwork.
Gladys Gillis
56:38
if you get the PPP forgiven, you can borrow more on a Mainstreet!
Gladys Gillis
57:00
Did you just say the forgiven loan IS taxable?
John Sambdman
57:11
The Main Street Program is expensive to get and near worthless for companies with high debt
Tom Giddens
57:35
Our CPA told us to wait till December before applying due to the continuing changes and fear we would have to redo it. What is your belief?
jim hey
57:41
How does that work if no loan on property
Richard Thielen
57:43
With common ownership of rented property and ownership, does it make any difference if company is a corporation?
Gladys Gillis
57:53
thanks, I don’t own my property, but alit of bus Guy’s do Ian their property. so I think it will be a big deal for many of our members.
Christy Todey
57:57
What if loan payments were deferred so interest wasn't paid during the forgiveness period? Is it still forgiveable since it is owed?
PAUL ESHAGHI
57:58
If the first PPP is not forgiven and it becomes a loan Then can you apply for the 2nd PPP loan
Hazel Dance
58:10
As I understand as of now, PPP is taxable unless there's a vote to waive PPP as taxable income.
John Sambdman
58:22
We looked at it but the underwriting is very difficult with high costs and it needs to be first, so if you have an SBA loan they will pay that off but then it accelerates the terms on that debt
Tom Sambdman
58:25
I understand that the Main Street Lending is unfavorable to banks. Less than 1 in 40 applicants are getting approved.
etj763
58:37
If you own your property, and you don't have a loan on it, but you pay yourself rent, why would you think that is 'free money?'
Personnel Safety
58:41
PPP is not taxable, but the expenses you paid are not deductible. It's a wash.
John Sambdman
58:45
The banks don’t like the MSL program
Christy Todey
58:47
too late, our 24 weeks is over and I didn't know this. Bummmer
Gladys Gillis
58:47
yes, my bank said that too
John Sambdman
59:27
Renasant bank refuses to take any applications on the MSL
Gladys Gillis
59:28
The banks were told they would not be held accountable for PPP loans as long as they used those standard credit worthiness rules.
etj763
59:50
wow, only 118?
Gladys Gillis
59:55
now they are being told they will be audited and held accountable for all loans over $2M.
John Sambdman
01:00:04
$600 Billion in the MSL program
Ginny Orr
01:00:09
so all this money is supposed to be available and we cannot seem to get to it
John Sambdman
01:00:25
I’ve been asking my Reps and Senators to reallocate $10 Billionn to the CERTS Act
Tom Sambdman
01:00:40
We are urging the Representatives to reallocate that money to CERTS
John Kruger
01:00:40
And Ginny, at this rate, if it ever becomes available it will be too late for many.
Ginny Orr
01:00:45
a trillion dollars is a stgaggering amount of money!
Gladys Gillis
01:00:46
the bait and switch has them nervous. that’s why they want a letter from the CDC about our eligibility for Safe Harnord CDC
Gladys Gillis
01:00:52
safe harbor
etj763
01:01:11
Three privately owned grocery stores in our area received OVER $2,500,000 in PPP...…..grocery stores! and yet, here we are, begging for crumbs to keep our doors open...…….
PAUL ESHAGHI
01:01:29
Can you apply for the 2nd PPP if your first PPP loan is not all forgiven and it becomes a loan
Tom Sambdman
01:01:30
That way there would be no new money needed.
John Sambdman
01:02:04
Everyone needs to write a personal letter to the President. If you do it will get to his desk and he will see it
John Sambdman
01:02:10
Make sure to make it personal
Personnel Safety
01:02:25
harm in delaying application is that you don't get an application in, then new IFRs come out and you will be subject to them.
Ebmeyer Charter Bus
01:02:37
THANKS TRACY!
bryce snyder
01:02:37
THANKS
Roy Young
01:02:46
If you are self employed and on received $3100.00 in PPP is that automatically forgiven ?
Personnel Safety
01:02:49
thanks Tracy
John Sambdman
01:02:50
Write to this address
John Sambdman
01:02:51
The White HousePresident Donald Trump1600 Pennsylvania Ave NWWashington, DC 20500
etj763
01:03:04
Thanks, John.
Stacy Strickland
01:03:35
Call the Whitehouse 202-456-1111
Roni Alvandi
01:03:49
Looks like Pelosi and Mnuchin will speak again this afternoon but as of now both sides maintain they are far apart.
Rhonda Bilbrey
01:04:01
White House call line was “CLOSED” yesterday when we called.
STEVE COTTLE
01:04:14
REF MINUCHIN/PELOSI..NEWS SAYS THEY ARE TALKING AND STILL CAN'T AGREE ON THE FACE AMOUNT
Gladys Gillis
01:04:23
Ken - do you think the CDC will sign a letter telling banks that Bus Companies are eligible for PPP Safe Harbor?
Brenda Tidwell
01:04:27
Ken do you think that the rules for the next PPP will be close or the same?
John Kruger
01:04:28
No one is the decision maker... arguing and not compromising is the name of the game sadly.
Constance Giddens
01:04:46
I’ve handwritten months ago and never got a response. I do hope he saw it.
JOHN FERRARI
01:04:50
'Speaker Nancy Pelosi spokesperson says she and Sec Mnuchin spoke by phone to further clarify the amounts they are talking. Also some language in package. The spokesperson says distance remains on key areas. They expect another call in a few hours.' -FBN
Stacy Strickland
01:05:05
www.whitehouse.gov/contact
PAUL ESHAGHI
01:05:05
One more time; Can you apply for the 2nd PPP if your first PPP loan can not be forgiven and it becomes a loan
Constance Giddens
01:05:08
I’ve emailed more than I can count.
Andy Byars
01:05:28
Ditto
Ginny Orr
01:05:47
i have language for them. PLEASE HELP US!!!
Andy Byars
01:06:07
So you sent that to the Salon?
Coachlight Tours
01:06:08
So is the mailing address to the White House 1600 Pennsylvania AVE? Or, is there a different address?
Tom Sambdman
01:06:16
Email (keep it short), call (your reps and white house), and write letters (your rep and president)
Kevin Creighton
01:06:22
can we park in front of here house?
Gladys Gillis
01:06:28
great Question Paul!! I thought the answer was NO, but I would love to hear from an expert!! Ken? do you know?
Tom Sambdman
01:07:56
How do we influence the SBA’s rules on PPP?
Gladys Gillis
01:08:09
did Tracy say the ORIGINAL PPP closed last Saturday?
Ginny Orr
01:08:12
don't think our buses go up snob hill
Personnel Safety
01:08:35
what is the 25% revenue loss comparison periods being proposed? Q2 vs Q1 2020? Q2 vs. something in 2019?
Mike McDonal
01:09:19
Did the government pass a CR to continue operating since yesterday was the end of the fiscal year ? How would this, if at all, impact these opportunities for relief packages
Rhonda Bilbrey
01:09:19
That’s what on Tx Senator’s office told me on Monday. He didn’t want to support CERTS because it was requesting NEW money. Thinks the reallocation of the unused $$ CARES Act is a better option.
John Kruger
01:09:21
We were in line for EIDL, but never made it to the finish line. Can we que it up now even though it hasn't been revived? Is it still on the SBA website?
J. Morgan Brown
01:09:26
So for the small carriers that have not been approved for anything and still in a pending process what if anything is being considered for them?
Matthew Daecher
01:09:48
Mike, Yes. Executive order
Mike McDonal
01:10:03
thanks Matt
John Grzywacz
01:10:14
I just received an email from the Ernst office. It stated that that the Senator just spoke to Leader McConnell about our industry.
Aaron Cox
01:10:44
Is there any talk about changing the loss amount from 25% to 50%. I know it sounds mean, but would that insure that the businesses that are in most severe need for help gets the money versus those that lost their "Profit Margin"
Stacy Strickland
01:11:39
So how do we contact Pelosi? All emails or numbers I find say she is not taking any means of contact outside her district in CA.
Ginny Orr
01:11:53
doesn't seem to be anything that will ensure the suffering small businesses will really receive anything buy PPP and that will not really help in the long term
etj763
01:11:56
I agree, Aaron. It bothers me sooooo many businesses in first round received hundreds and millions of dollars in my small area of Wisconsin (grocery stores, liquor stores, car repair places, etc....), it is so infuriating. maddening.
John Kruger
01:12:34
Stacy - I called Pelosi's DC #, did talk to a person, wasn't too welcoming to listen to me for a minute but they listened and said thanks
Stacy Strickland
01:12:58
John Kruger please list it
Harry Bao
01:13:09
maybe we should flood Pelosi’s email with request to hear us out.
John Kruger
01:13:48
(202) 225-4965 - Pelosi
Stacy Strickland
01:14:28
Thanks
John Kruger
01:14:52
Sad that a majority is still not enough!!
Ginny Orr
01:15:25
become her ice cream distributor
John Kruger
01:15:32
HA! Ken...
Andy Byars
01:15:37
Ha is right lol
Aaron Cox
01:15:41
Ken is SAVAGE!!! lol