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Joanna Hensley - Discussing a Great Book Online - Shared screen with speaker view
David Zeiger - Facilitator
06:06
David from Dallas.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
18:01
I know what you mean. The back-channel things.
Anna Moscatiello
18:21
This is a great point!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
18:30
It doesn't help when presenters stop and read every message though. Makes us feel like we're stopping everything.
Anna Moscatiello
18:59
Make sure you select “All panelists and attendees” if you want to message the whole group
Bob Donaldson
19:26
That take practice (and discipline)
MaryDAmour
19:49
David, you can think of it like the teacher responding to a student who speaks up in the classroom
David Zeiger - Facilitator
20:14
got it
Rachel Thompson
20:20
Yes!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
20:41
it must be better than talking to a bunch of muted mikes
David Zeiger - Facilitator
21:05
Like my senile cat
David Zeiger - Facilitator
22:01
oh that's a good point.
Rachel Thompson
22:35
To learn to teach like this is like learning a new choreography or posturing to teaching.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
22:46
easier to stay out
MaryDAmour
23:01
I can relate...that has happened to me many times...my internet goes out regularly
David Zeiger - Facilitator
23:20
I take a martial arts class via zoom. If you miss an instruction it's hard to know what you're supposed to do
David Zeiger - Facilitator
23:34
watching people in the live doesn't help.
MaryDAmour
24:25
Or you ask a question and nobody responds
David Zeiger - Facilitator
24:40
I like the preface: "I'm sharing my screen now"
David Zeiger - Facilitator
25:27
yes
David Zeiger - Facilitator
25:56
I'm sure they feel it. What I did was a random cold call.
Anna Moscatiello
25:59
Yes, the mechanics of people handing off the mic is a huge issue
Carl Sohmer
26:36
how do you make it so that the students don’t check out after they answer?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
27:37
they've contributed to the flow and can't get out of the river now
David Zeiger - Facilitator
27:55
that exhausts my Latin anyway
Carl Sohmer
28:19
don’t…. hah!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
28:24
http://classics.mit.edu/Virgil/georgics.1.i.html
Carl Sohmer
28:30
thanks!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
28:34
If you want an online copy
Anna Moscatiello
28:35
yes
Jessica Martin
28:35
Yes
Jacob Andrews
28:38
yes
David Zeiger - Facilitator
28:38
no
Anna Danese
28:45
Yes I have!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
28:53
Read Dante's sequel
Jacob Andrews
29:06
work
MaryDAmour
29:07
work
Joshua Hughes
29:10
work
Joshua Hughes
29:12
labor
David Zeiger - Facilitator
29:14
the boar in Spanish?
Anna Danese
29:14
labor?
Joshua Hughes
29:32
laborious
David Zeiger - Facilitator
29:52
@ Huntley, so it's a place you work?
MaryDAmour
30:05
sounds wonderful
David Zeiger - Facilitator
30:09
and then
David Zeiger - Facilitator
30:14
duh duh duh!!!!
Joshua Hughes
30:45
all
Anna Danese
30:45
all
David Zeiger - Facilitator
30:46
all?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
31:09
like vini vidi vici
David Zeiger - Facilitator
31:11
ah
David Zeiger - Facilitator
31:24
but why is there an N in it now?
Anna Danese
31:36
Protestant Work Ethic?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
31:55
click participants
Carl Sohmer
32:13
go for it!
Jacob Andrews
32:37
david- vicit is "conquered", vincit is "conquers". past/perfect vs present tense
David Zeiger - Facilitator
32:55
So school is hard work?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
33:45
almost as big as my Greek dictionary
David Zeiger - Facilitator
33:56
those are antonyms though
David Zeiger - Facilitator
34:27
dilignce
Bob Donaldson
34:50
But the perfect tense indicates work already having been completed.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
34:50
bad work. Sinful work.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
35:06
are both meanings intended
David Zeiger - Facilitator
36:08
I've seen the slides
Jessica Martin
36:10
Love!
Anna Danese
36:10
love conquers all
David Zeiger - Facilitator
36:11
cheating
Bob Donaldson
36:16
Arbeit macht frei
David Zeiger - Facilitator
36:19
idle hands are the devil's playground
David Zeiger - Facilitator
36:30
I did not
David Zeiger - Facilitator
37:01
Would have guessed Shakespeare to be honest.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
37:05
safe bet
David Zeiger - Facilitator
37:19
same author and genre, so good comparison.
Bob Donaldson
38:01
Is it “visit” in both cases or “vincit” in one?
Anna Danese
38:02
All obstacles can be conquered if you love enough
Bob Donaldson
38:13
Or “vincit” in both with a typo?
Bob Donaldson
38:58
Yes — but if perfect tense, it means work has already finished conbguering all.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
39:00
Ithis a modern reconception?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
39:02
IS
MaryDAmour
39:13
So all obstacles can be conquered if you work hard would be the comparison here?
Bob Donaldson
39:21
While Love is longingly conquering all.
Bob Donaldson
39:28
ongoingly
David Zeiger - Facilitator
40:05
I did listen to a talk on Plato's Symposium. Was that before this?
Anna Danese
40:06
so there is some cynicism?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
40:12
eros?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
40:50
so the drive to love, pushes them to conquer all?
Anna Danese
41:08
and "conquer" has a violent connotation
David Zeiger - Facilitator
41:41
yes, both?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
41:48
why do we have to pick
Carl Sohmer
41:53
yeah. keep going on that idea
Anna Danese
41:53
conquers things that might be good
Bob Donaldson
41:59
Labor has conquered all other motivations.
Jessica Martin
42:01
All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy
MaryDAmour
42:03
Work is a cruel master or work is the necessary tool to victory???
Carl Sohmer
42:27
[side question: do you ever have considerations of tempo of answering and discussions to slowing down discussion?]
MaryDAmour
42:37
Hahaha, Jessica....dull but rich!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
42:41
The drive which we call work leads us to push and overpower all
Anna Danese
43:11
necessity is the mother of invention?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
43:35
This does harken to the story in the Symposium where Want and Plenty have a child - Eros.
Carl Sohmer
43:42
sure! Thanks!
David Zeiger - Facilitator
43:47
So we would invent the arts
David Zeiger - Facilitator
46:08
very cool.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
46:26
Kind of a reason for the "problem of evil"
MaryDAmour
47:03
Both
David Zeiger - Facilitator
47:21
improbus work is a blessing and a curse.
MaryDAmour
47:27
Blessing in that it brings about inguenuity, but a curse in that it is exhausting
David Zeiger - Facilitator
47:30
cause poetry can work like that
Carl Sohmer
47:43
still a question about why Jupiter wanted it that way?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
48:03
Genesis would say the ground is cursed
David Zeiger - Facilitator
48:15
but they did have useful work in Eden
David Zeiger - Facilitator
48:41
Is that why we call it labor?
MaryDAmour
48:43
How do you set up a poll?
David Zeiger - Facilitator
48:55
do you use polls ad hoc or ahead of time?
Bob Donaldson
49:07
You have to set up polls in advance in Zoom.
Bob Donaldson
49:25
There are ways to handle ad hoc polls though.
David Zeiger - Facilitator
49:46
Not exactly, Bob. I made the one we did at the beginning after I started the Zoom session.
Bob Donaldson
49:53
I often ask students to ALL enter a one-word answers in lieu of a poll.
Carl Sohmer
50:56
[another side question: how do you like to end your class times online?]
David Zeiger - Facilitator
51:05
@Bob Well, it depends on how you start/run class. IF you have a kid read or translate some Latin you've got time XD
Bob Donaldson
51:25
Good point, David.
Joshua Hughes
51:59
what ages do you teach?
Anna Danese
52:12
I would love that
Jacob Andrews
52:14
I would definitely be interested.
MaryDAmour
52:19
Me too
Carl Sohmer
52:30
prep for your class times?
Jessica Martin
52:34
Yes, count me in! I am spearheading our online component this coming year and I know nothing!
Joshua Hughes
52:36
gotcha
Bob Donaldson
53:16
Ask more questions using our swag bag entry form on the main page.
Carl Sohmer
53:36
Thank you so much! Really kind soul. I felt genuine care for all of us! Thank you!
Anna Moscatiello
54:24
Great session! Thank you so much!
Bob Donaldson
54:27
www.wilsonhillacademy.com
MaryDAmour
54:28
Our kids need practice too. Maybe if we need to do distance learning again this fall, we should do a practice day with doing polls and raising hands, unmunting mics, etc.
Bob Donaldson
55:10
@MaryD — We have a full “meet the teacher” session to help with that.
Bob Donaldson
55:31
Great Job, Joanna
Jessica Martin
55:32
Yes, I will say that this is the most engaged I've felt!