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AERO Conference June 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Linnea Schluessler
02:19:24
Is through scholarships? Or sliding scales?
Tim Chen
02:21:12
Thank you for letting me in.
mark finnern
02:22:34
Are you happy with the Wikipedia entry of Summerhill School? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School
Adriana Braescu
02:23:28
Henry, the etymology of the word „school” is skhole, which means, in ancient greek, spare time, usually spent with philosophy.... :-) So no worry about using the word „school”
Sifaan Zavahir
02:24:37
For many of us, boarding schools are not an option (costs, parental expectations etc) -what do you see as pros/cons of boarding school vs day school for SDE?
Liza Loop
02:25:52
@Henry, how do you distinguish between ‘work’ and ‘play’? Can you weave the concept of intrinsically motivated activity into your response?
mark finnern
02:26:35
If you Tweet about the AERO Conference don’t forget to use the official hashtag #AEROconference https://twitter.com/hashtag/AEROconference
Barry Chiate
02:26:38
LEARNING MORE ABOUT THE NATURAL CONNECTION BETWEEN PLAY - AND EDUCATION
mark finnern
02:27:31
100 Years of Summerhill https://www.100yearsofsummerhill.co.uk/
Heather MacTaggart
02:36:56
Related to the need for more research on education and the need for educational choice…if you are 19-30, please take and share this quick survey about your educational experiences in the teen years! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9SB7XZ3. Or pass on to 19-30 year olds you know!
Barry Chiate
02:37:08
LEARNING ABOUT HOW IT ALL BEGAN - THE CHILD AND PLAY —THERE IS GOING TO BE A PRESENTATION LATER THIS AFTERNOON ABOUT FROEBEL - THE CREATOR OF KINDER GARDEN - 200 YEARS AGO WHERE KINDER-GARDEN WAS A GARDEN WHERE CHILDREN CAN NATURALLY PLAY, EXPLORE AND LEARN FOR THEMSELVES. SCOTT RUNS FROEBELUSA AND IS A GREAT PRESENTER. FROEBEL created the 22 GIFTS including the FROEBEL BLOCKS - which inspired the career of Frank Lloyd Wright. The blocks are now being used at MIT in design classes to give college students a hands on experience of what they are studying. This is a great opportunity to learn about the foundation of child centered education 200 years ago which is the same as SUMMERHILL. Check it out and be pleasantly surprised by the true story of what has lead to everything that AERO and this conference is about.
Liz Campbell
02:37:22
Related to the need for more research on education and the need for educational choice…if you are 19-30, please take and share this quick survey about your educational experiences in the teen years! https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/9SB7XZ3. Or pass on to 19-30 year olds you know!
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
02:42:21
This is great Henry !!! Thank you
Dileepa Manawadu
02:43:28
Can @Henry type the email address here pls?
Taryn Helper
02:44:29
festival@100yearsofsummerhill.co.uk
Dileepa Manawadu
02:44:43
Thank you @Taryn
Michelle
02:46:21
Thank you Henry! Amazing!
Renee Sandler
02:46:52
I have a question for Henry.
Taryn Helper
02:47:09
Me too :)
Peter Berg
02:47:16
Put it in the chat here
David Caballero & Luz Olid
02:47:43
Event website: https://www.100yearsofsummerhill.co.uk/
Taryn Helper
02:47:50
I wanna tell him and everyone something its too long to type sorry
Linnea Schluessler
02:48:37
How many learners are at the school?
Rivka
02:48:47
A couple of questions:
Taryn Helper
02:48:57
approximately 60 I think he said
Linnea Schluessler
02:49:57
Reposting a question that was sent only to me from deborourke:At our 50 year old democratic school we find that the youngest, from about age 4 to nine, are very interested in the natural world, especially animals, and that interest drops off in most kids after about age eight. Does that happen at Summerhill?
Rivka
02:50:15
1. What book(s) do you recommend on Summerhill?2. Are there other training programs offered that are online? (website shows in-person training/courses)3. What are some favorite memories of Summerhill? You mention climbing trees as one of them :)
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
02:50:57
To your point, Henry. Have you seen the book by Pat Montgomery ? The School inside you
mark finnern
02:51:13
@taryn you may want to raise a hand too.
Roy Karp
02:51:29
https://bookshop.org/lists/democratic-education-and-unschooling - currently 50 books but I’d love to get to 100 for 100 years of Summerhill.
Liza Loop
02:55:03
The concept of Summerhill has also inspired many of us parents to give our children unschooling options. Thus counting Summerhill-like schools vastly underestimates the influence of this movement.
Sifaan Zavahir
02:55:48
@Taryn - why are all the things you mentioned as being outside education not part of what we understand education to be?
Cian
02:56:02
I love that Taryn! I think all the things should be Education!
mark finnern
02:57:09
@liza +1000
Rivka
02:57:52
@barry, there's a talk on Froebel later today!
Liza Loop
02:58:35
Is there an ‘eldergarden’? That’s where I want to be.
mark finnern
02:59:30
@Lisa yes, me too! Let’s build it!
mark finnern
03:00:30
Froebel session 4pm EST today by Scott Bultman: The Forgotten History of Froebel Kindergarten https://www.aeroconference.org/workshops?pgid=knqvp4f9-fa082c94-9813-46e7-80a4-6c91b49ec76e
Mihai Banulescu
03:00:33
I love Rogers on education! I wish there was more opportunity to talk about it.
Mihai Banulescu
03:00:59
see his “personal thoughts on teaching and learning” article
Linnea Schluessler
03:01:07
@Liza love it! In light of Candy's presentation perhaps a learnergarden not segmented by age at all.
Derry Hannam
03:01:22
My years in education in the UK were a commitment to re-creating Summerhill in state schools. It’s what my book is about “Another Way is Possible: Becoming a Democratic Teacher in a State School.” Te price as a e-book on Smashwords is just $2 for the duration of the conference - proceeds to AERO. https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1029100
Taryn Helper
03:01:58
@Sifaan- in the world that I lived in before finding Aero and the world of alternative ed- the term education does not symbolize celebrating children, guiding them to find their passions and talents or relationship building or personal growth... none of that is part of conventional education - well where I live anyway.
Liza Loop
03:04:14
book recommendation: “The Gardener and the Carpenter” by Alison Gopnik
Sifaan Zavahir
03:04:43
Taryn, agreed - but I think we should push a concept of education that does include all that (we could call it holistic education, whole-person education etc to contrast with conventional)
Linnea Schluessler
03:05:28
Couldn't find open access to Rogers' Personal Thoughts on Teaching and Learning, but this download is a summary from him called Freedom to Learn (1969) https://www.academia.edu/29855232/Personal_Thoughts_on_Teaching_and_Learning_1952
Roy Karp
03:07:48
another thinker I’ve been enjoying is Martin Buber who believed we make meaning through dialog with others
Alicia Richard
03:07:54
It would be great if the CIC could make it a project at some point to re publish any out of print books. As a researcher, it is often difficult to get one’s hands on the best books because they are out of print. Thanks. (:
Roy Karp
03:10:32
@Alicia love that idea
mark finnern
03:11:36
This is super interesting!
Sifaan Zavahir
03:11:48
Children find “addiction” in devices when they lack connection elsewhere (more likely in conventional schools)
Mihai Banulescu
03:12:14
Buber influenced Carl Rogers a ton
Liza Loop
03:12:15
We have had the same anti-screen experience with my grandson (who is now 17 and just graduated from highschool).
Sifaan Zavahir
03:12:15
Interesting TED on addiction: https://www.ted.com/talks/johann_hari_everything_you_think_you_know_about_addiction_is_wrong?language=en
Michelle
03:12:27
Love this! Found this to be true w my children.
Taryn Helper
03:15:22
That's so clever lol
Richard Fransham
03:15:38
New post re AERO conference. We need you to join the Youth Rights Day movement designed to cultivate the leadership we need to overcome the problems we face: https://www.facebook.com/groups/933351720770117/permalink/997675407671081/. Register here and/or join social media. Every participant adds to the kinds of numbers that influence authorities. https://youthrightsday.wordpress.com/contact/
Richard Fransham
03:17:49
See also youth speaking powerfully at the recent UNESCO webinar on the Futures of Education: https://www.facebook.com/groups/933351720770117/permalink/996407267797895/
Gayle Hanlon
03:19:14
I have an alternative private school specifically designed to support home educators and providing them with the opportunity to be completely self directed. Helping parents feel confident in this opportunity and trust themselves. Thank you so much for this.
Liza Loop
03:19:32
If we don’t take care of our physical mind/bodies we can’t enter the digital domain.
Barry Chiate
03:20:27
I discovered the way that human beings naturally learn a couple of months ago - and I never even heard of It. NON-DUALITY is about finding the balance between the opposites - like YIN-YANG. Instead of THERE IS ONLY ONE RIGHT ANSWER that focus ONLY ON THE WORD causes - you are able to consider the 2 sides together and find where they meet. An application of NONDUALITY has surprisingly been used at Veterans Hospitals to help traumatized vets recover from PTSD and trauma issues. The SURGEON GENERAL has reported that this NONDUALITY therapy has helped these vets more than anything else. You can explain how NONDUALITY works by explaining HOW A JOKE WORKS! You have a SETUP LINE and then the reverse opposite is the PUNCH LINE. When you laugh you allow the 2 opposites to enter into your mind at the same time. Where they meet is a spark of awareness that leads to WIT or WISDOM. Check out NONDULITY discover one simple thing that could change everything.
Taryn Helper
03:20:32
"There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats it's children." Said the great Nelson Mandela.
Roy Karp
03:20:50
given that new kids are starting each year, do you periodically or annually review the laws to get input and consent from new community members?
Cian
03:21:27
My firstborn just graduated from Clonlara!
Erynn Albert
03:21:44
Michigan?
Monica Willcutt
03:22:15
My son graduated from Clonlara in 2013!
Cian
03:22:22
Yes. They were enrolled online.
Barry Chiate
03:23:55
AN INTERESTING POINT: The more humanistic style of education that emerged from the Italian Renaissance was based on HOW A 3 YEAR OLD CHILD NATURALLY PLAYS AND CREATES MEANING. A 3 YEAR OLD was one of the foundations of the RENAISSANCE.
Liz Campbell
03:25:02
@Barry, I believe all caps in text is considered yelling ;)
Dileepa Manawadu
03:26:03
@Roy I came across Martin Buber and Dialogue theory in an Intercultural/Inter-religious Dialogue training forum.
Sifaan Zavahir
03:27:50
Part of a broader question on the difference between day and boarding school - at a boarding school you can create an immersive/full-time environment for all the children, including what they do when they are “not studying”… but in a day school they would spend a lot of time at home with parents; given that for many alternatives day-school is the only option, what kind of things would you suggest to create a home environment that complements the school environment?
Dileepa Manawadu
03:27:51
@Barry and I thought immediately how it is what happens in a Democratic/Self Directed space!
Rivka
03:28:46
Questions:1. Could you share some favorite memories from Summerhill? (you mention climbing trees)2. Is there online training for Summerhill? the website shows in-person
Barry Chiate
03:28:54
4 year old children have been proven to be the best NATURAL SYSTEM THINKERS BY AGE. (See PETER SENGE - founder of Systems Thinking at MIT) 4 year olds and kids who learned sign language first OUTPERFORM MANY HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS when it comes to CREATIVE PROBLEM SOLVING. This is the main skill that employers are looking for. So a 4 year old is ahead of high school students - would hi
Adeeb Syed
03:29:46
Daniel, just to add a little bit to your question on video games, the design of such games in the past 10-15 years or so have been greatly influenced by mobile games which are designed very similar to gambling machines to attract people to spend money using various inhumane models of design. Even now in the attention economy there has been a really bad set of incentives for large gaming companies (and many in edtech) to create games that do not respect players
Barry Chiate
03:30:23
I’m sorry if I use capital letters in my chat messages. I only write by hand so I hardly ever use a computer besides checkin for email. Thanks for the tip.
Erynn Albert
03:32:00
It’ s like eating as much ice cream as you can consume….At some point you realize it is not going to keep you alive. You need a variety and ice cream( maybe vegan) is part of the whole. We naturally yearn to be nourished.
mark finnern
03:32:08
Great question!
Liza Loop
03:34:00
@Erynn. Please note that only the ice cream eaters who do come to that realization survive to reflect about their behavior. The rest cease to be a problem.
Kathyann
03:35:47
Need Parental support for a democratic home
Sifaan Zavahir
03:36:38
@Henry - Thanks! That was helpful
Richard Fransham
03:36:44
Good session Henry. I have to leave. Thanks.
Daniel Merino
03:36:55
I think it’s a very complex thing…should we let them develop their own conscience to self regulate? Or should an authority limit the exposure because they can’t?
Daniel Merino
03:37:13
This applies to eating candy, video games, etc, you name it
Barry Chiate
03:38:33
This is my last posting. Did you ever wonder how a 3 year old learns around 1500 words by themselves with the perfect accent. Everything imprints in a child’s brain to about the age of 5. A person’s basic character is formed by about the age of 5 - which lasts for a lifetime. Is this something to consider in terms of a present day child centered education. We have a 150 year old educational system that has absolutely nothing to do with how our brains actually work. For more insight into the first 5 years take a look at SHINICHI SUZUKI’s auto biography - NURTURED BY LOVE. Suzuki was mentored by ALBERT EINSTEIN for 3 years when he studied in Germany. Would Albert as a friend somehow influence your life? Best, Barry C
deborourke
03:38:37
ALPHA is in that situation of creating community without boarding. Parent participation, including a monthly consensus-based meeting, is foundational to its community. A lot of potlucks and gatherings. Parents helping to take care of each others children and bringing their talents to the school. We did have to create a Code of Conduct to explain the parent role to the Board and deal with folks who had trouble working with others’ boundaries.
Derry Hannam
03:38:38
Hi Henry - Jem will be here on his giant motor-cycle in 5 minutes - sends his love!!
Taryn Helper
03:39:12
I'm so happy I was able to be at this session! It has been WONDERFUL!! Thank you Henry. Thank you Aero. Thank you amazing people. :)
Kathyann
03:40:53
Thank you for sharing with us today!
Taryn Helper
03:41:57
Hugging is very important!!
Erynn Albert
03:42:09
I am star struck . My mom was an AS Neil Head here in ny in the 60’s and 70’s. She would absolutely love to see this!
Linnea Schluessler
03:42:14
Mrs. Piggle Wiggle's farm showed us the way forward when it comes to bad habits. We need an update for digital habits!
Erynn Albert
03:42:59
Thank you! also a Mrs. Piggle Wiggle Fan
Roy Karp
03:43:17
Thank you so much Henry! your grandfather is a hero and this was a big honor!
Wendy Raver (she/her)
03:43:24
Thank you!