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2022 MFMA Annual Conference - Shared screen with speaker view
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
02:53:58
https://jamboard.google.com/d/1qeN9oI3zafFXu_-mgV5h3oRFyH0gf2nTKmSda8piATE/edit?usp=sharing
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
02:54:09
access to the Jam board
Stacey Whitney
02:57:14
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ct-t2uNBbKQZobUPpPQGZe7C1kwE5tVb3AyCx8NP8cw/edit?usp=sharing
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
03:17:49
https://jamboard.google.com/d/1qeN9oI3zafFXu_-mgV5h3oRFyH0gf2nTKmSda8piATE/edit?usp=sharing
Jenny Breen
03:18:03
Another group to consider is the market oversight/board who often oversee the market but (in my case) may be less aware of/actively anti-racist
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
03:19:51
These are such great questions, but honestly I don't know that I can speak to my customers and vendors on their openness. I can make an assumption, but I truly wonder how they would answer the question on their own.
Sarah Larsen- Eagan Market Fest
03:20:50
I was thinking the same thing Cory!
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
03:22:08
I would love some examples of survey questions you would use in vendor and customer surveys that directly pertains to inclusion! We also have survey monkey and love to do an occasion onsite dot survey.
Kathy Zeman, MFMA,
03:22:25
I wonder if we should consider Qs like this in our FM360?
Dawn Wegscheid
03:22:42
of course we should!
Jenny Breen
03:23:06
Kathy I was thinking about that too-I think we could/and perhaps should broaden this survey. Homegrown Mpls and our food action plan could definitely make the case for this!
Angela Fredrickson
03:25:36
I would also like survey question ideas. We do a chart onsite nearly every market with dot stickers to answer a question I ask. All question ideas welcome as well as inclusion questions! I run out of ideas doing them weekly during the summer and then having less produce options available during the winter gives me less to work with as far as question topics.
Jenny Breen
03:28:37
Is it possible to have access to these slides also?
Kathy Zeman, MFMA,
03:36:22
I like that - coupon as thanks to spend at the mkt - win-win.
Chris Allen
03:38:34
How do you address language challenges/barriers from vendors and/or customers participating?
Dawn Wegscheid
03:39:39
Google Translate isn't always accurate. There are so many free apps for translation. I like partnering with our neighbors to provide a volunteer opp. too
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
03:40:47
Partnering with community groups working with volunteers of the target group.
Jenny Breen
03:41:23
You can also partner with different vendors, for example some of our Hmong vendors speak better English than others...
Amanda Nigon-Crowley
03:41:56
Thank you for sharing your progress and wisdom. I don't have access to the Jam board but I have two questions : 1. How/what outreach do you make to people of color to invite them to the market? 2. Our board is very diverse but board members are typically not paid. Do you think compensating board members of color for their time is necessary when it's not the common practice?
Chris Allen
03:42:08
We do have 22 countries representing … so partnering is a great idea
Amanda Nigon-Crowley
03:42:14
"view only" status for me
Jane Jewett
03:42:24
View only status for me in the jamboard also
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
03:42:56
https://jamboard.google.com/d/1qeN9oI3zafFXu_-mgV5h3oRFyH0gf2nTKmSda8piATE/edit?usp=sharing
Jenny Breen
03:43:33
Would be interesting to see if there are grant resources to compensate vendors this way-I don’t think with our current budget we could do it. Maybe a sponsorship specifically for this could work.
Jane Jewett
03:45:07
One thing we did with a very young new vendor with limited resources a few years ago was allow her to pay the $100 membership fee gradually over the course of the season rather than in a lump sum up front.
Jenny Breen
03:45:50
I’ve definitely offered various ways to pay. And, have given discounts or opportunities to vendors to start with a few markets rather than committing to a whole season
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
03:47:56
Anti-Racist Farmers Market Toolkit Speakers Bureau Request Form (google.com)
Chris Allen
03:48:05
Stacey and Karla - Thank you for your inspiring and important work!
Deborah Brister
03:48:55
Thank you so much!! Super helpful!
Wililyn Dowell
03:49:31
I have access.
Amanda Nigon-Crowley
03:49:41
I'm in gmail and still view only.
Kim Guenther, MFMA (she/her)
03:50:03
Thank you Karla and Stacey. Really good! See you soon.!
Kristine Jonas
04:23:12
Thank you to our speakers and hosts
Tiffany Kari
04:23:27
Wild rice, hard boiled eggs, nutritional yeast and truffle hot sauce.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:24:09
Congrats to Dawn!
Kim Guenther, MFMA (she/her)
04:26:30
Great lunches everyone!
Ron Branch, Alexandria F Mkt
04:26:47
Stroganoff on mashed potatoes, napa cabbage & side of beets
Tiffany Kari
04:28:39
I would say thank you for your feedback. Hearing from you and others is important to us.
Gail Olson
04:29:03
I'd probably start a conversation with talking about the wide variety of music the market hosts, and this is part of it.
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
04:29:05
Let her know that there are other people at the market who enjoy this music and that there will be a variety of musicians at other markets that hopefully she also will enjoy.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:29:57
At our market, my response has been to share when the non-music hour(s) are, and share that we book a variety of musicians and genres at the market.
Kristine Jonas
04:30:40
I would say we have different music on different market days.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:32:08
The other thing is that it's R&B - is that why she doesn't care for it?
Kathy Zeman, MFMA,
04:32:37
Too loud? Too sexy?
Amanda Nigon-Crowley
04:32:44
Bad acid trip memories
Wililyn Dowell
04:33:01
She's sensitive to loud noise.
Jane Jewett
04:33:11
There might be a specific bad experience she had re: disco/
Chris Allen
04:33:14
Hearing issues?
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:33:20
I have heard from older customers that some music makes it hard to access the market because of hearing issues
Dawn Wegscheid
04:34:35
I grew up dancing to disco as a little girl. We celebrate all genres of music! Maybe also keeping the sound to a low level so conversations could still happen and it doesn't drown out everything else.
Tiffany Kari
04:34:41
People seem to love it!
Chris Allen
04:34:49
They buy more and stay longer to listen
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
04:35:05
It makes the market more of a community experience and encourages people to stay longer.
Tiffany Kari
04:35:08
It creates a good vibe.
Maeve Mallozzi-Kelly (she/her)
04:35:09
I've seen a lot of young families enjoy the music with their children
Dawn Wegscheid
04:35:23
Also, kids love music, no matter what it is. They respond and it makes everyone happy.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:35:31
Dancing, parents showing kids how to respect/support live music by having them tip the musicians.
Wililyn Dowell
04:36:52
Music is a powerful way of uniting people.
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
04:37:16
Appeals to the senses, sight sound (good smells-fresh bread)
Wililyn Dowell
04:37:52
Music is a way of expressing me and being able to relate to other people.
Chris Allen
04:42:00
What a shame to not even taste the food!!!
Chris Allen
04:42:31
Absolutely delicious
Cherice Hartshorn
04:42:34
my first question is if the foods they would serve are cottage food allowed or if they are a retail mobile food handler. if they hold proper licensing, why not?
Amanda Nigon-Crowley
04:42:34
Injera is the best. Stewed lentils are amazing too.
Dawn Wegscheid
04:42:36
The inclusion of this vendor would offer culturally specific opportunities for people to "try" new and ethnic foods.
Kristine Jonas
04:42:56
I think wed’d be grateful for any food ,and to learn more about the culture
Gail Olson
04:43:03
A huge missed opportunity! Injera is tricky to make (I've tried several failed times), so it would be a huge benefit to have an expert.
Dawn Wegscheid
04:43:19
This literally is my dream vendor.
Chris Allen
04:43:24
That market could have offered an opportunity to feature a chef’s demo
Jane Jewett
04:43:31
Injera is made from teff - which is a grain the U of MN is trying to promote as a new crop - so it would be a great connection to alternative crop information
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:43:36
Trying to remember what I know - I remember yummy spiced foods, and eating things with the injera bread as an implement. Seems like a good opportunity for food sampling at the market.
Kathy Zeman, MFMA,
04:43:56
I feel sorry for that market - huge missed opportunity.
Kristine Jonas
04:44:09
What exactly is it?
Karla Forrest-Hewitt Forrest-Hewitt
04:45:00
Sourdough flatbreadInjera is a sour fermented pancake-like flatbread with a slightly spongy texture, traditionally made of teff flour.
Gail Olson
04:45:01
A lovely, soft spongy flatbread that's used as a serving utensil and accompaniment to the food.
Wililyn Dowell
04:45:02
The foundation of most Ethiopian dishes is Injera
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:45:43
Oh cool! I didn't realize it was a fermented dough. No wonder it's so good.
Kristine Jonas
04:45:43
Thank you !
Kathy Zeman, MFMA,
04:46:16
Sidebar: we need help updating the cottage foods non-potentially hazardous foods list with more culturally-named foods.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:46:45
Were they choosing a less "exotic" vendor over this person?
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:47:30
What a shame
Kristine Jonas
04:47:46
We did have Indian Tacos at our market, id like to have them do more taco days.
Wililyn Dowell
04:49:53
Bread (injera) is cottage food and cottage food producers make up a lot of our market sales.
Kristine Jonas
04:50:51
Sierra Napoli-Thein, she lives in hibbing
Gail Olson
04:53:05
I think it's okay to let the visitor sit with the discomfort for a few moments. Once the market manager starts talking about the application process, that could re-direct the emotions. The staff person acted appropriately.
Tiffany Kari
04:53:45
I agree with Gail
Angela Fredrickson
04:54:07
I also agree with Gail
Paul Conklin
04:54:53
We have had vendors apply that we didn't think would sell well. We have accepted them but warned them that it may take time to build clientele. Being anti-racist might mean having a "trial membership" option that allows participation for a few weeks to test out new products, before charging full market fees.
Chris Allen
04:54:55
It is a one on one learning experience and hopefully this creates a new perspective … and eventually becomes much more of a norm
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:55:13
Maybe give a compliment to the market manager's work in this case, and direct the conversation back to them.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
04:59:20
So disrespectful - could be time to fire the vendor.
Tiffany Kari
04:59:28
At our market I think I would ask them to kindly leave.
Gail Olson
04:59:29
White male racism with verbal aggression could be normalized. I think the Board and/or other vendors need to step up.
Amanda Nigon-Crowley
04:59:48
The vendor is behaving inappropriately. Hopefully there is a policy in place to deal with him.
Sierra Hietala- Little Canada Farmers Market
05:00:19
I would take the person aside and have a 1:1 conversation with them before it gets too out of hand. If they continue to be disrespectful kindly ask them to leave.
Kathy Zeman, MFMA,
05:00:47
I wonder how many of us will now review our market policies and make sure we have something in place?
Amy Britt
05:01:24
Hopefully there are other staff or vendor allies could assist by standing with the market manager and back her up in the moment.
Gail Olson
05:02:00
There's also the emotional toll on the manager that should be processed. We have had bullying instances at the market from one vendor, and that vendor is no longer at the market.
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
05:02:38
I have been yelled at by an older male customer wanting to drive their car into the market space during setup. I politely asked them to move their vehicle and even allowed early sales as long as vendors were okay with it, but he was very upset and continued to yell and throw up their hands before speeding off. I had a vendor nearby who was a female from South Africa and although she didn't say anything to the customer, she validated that I handled the situation well. It meant a lot to me for her to do that.
Kristine Jonas
05:03:56
It’s so hard dealing with angry people.
Jane Jewett
05:04:18
This is where market board members could step in to remind the vendor of Rules & Guidelines and give them a last chance to stand down. At Grand Rapids we have a written Code of Conduct that vendors have to sign every year, exactly because of incidents like this in the past - which were definitely gendered incidents not necessarily racist.
Stacy Chouinard
05:04:19
That is so well put, make space for those who are willing to be inclusive.
Amy Britt
05:04:32
Love that
Stacy Chouinard
05:06:18
I always struggle with the idea that we need to continue to work with those who are resistant to inclusiveness in various areas. It helps to put into perspective and perhaps a good way to justify ending a business relationship.
Stacey Whitney
05:10:47
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ct-t2uNBbKQZobUPpPQGZe7C1kwE5tVb3AyCx8NP8cw/edit?usp=sharing
Chris Allen
05:12:36
No this is real life stuff
Connie Schwecke
05:14:24
No, I appreciate all the information and you sharing your experiences. Thank you! Very thought provoking!
Wililyn Dowell
05:14:29
Heavy stuff as in difficult situations but I agree with Chris these are real life situations that have happened at the farmers' market.
Gail Olson
05:16:09
Dismantling racism is an ongoing process, so it's helpful for me to think about it as a basic continual project in my life (and responsibility as a white person). It's an evolving skill set, too.
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
05:18:06
The whole idea of returning vendors having priority vs new is something that I struggle with. It feels exclusionary, but also maybe needed for the stability of the market because we then have vendors we can depend on. One way I
Bonnie Hanna-Powers (she/her)
05:18:29
've tried to find balance is finding ways to expand the markt and include new people as well
Wililyn Dowell
05:18:45
We do have a Code of Conduct in place at our farmers' market and vendors are expected to be respectful and courteous to everyone at all times.
Alfredo Alvarado-Sariñana
05:20:05
thank y'all
Martha Archer
05:20:13
Thank you Karla and Stacey!
Nicole Baxton
05:20:13
Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Sarah Holle
05:20:16
Thank you!
Amy Britt
05:20:16
This has been really thought-provoking, thank you both!
Kristine Jonas
05:20:18
Thank you both so much
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
05:20:22
Thank you so much for presenting! This was very valuable and impactful!
Gail Olson
05:20:26
Thank you very much!
Iris Neumann
05:21:18
This has been an amazing session. Thank you!
Corrie Scott - Big Lake
05:21:25
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