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Dismas House Speaker Series-TJ Donovan - Shared screen with speaker view
bobbie.lawson
34:46
You're going to do amazing!
Sue B
39:19
"Every one of us is better than the worst thing we've ever done. " - Bryan Stevenson, EJI.
Jennifer Rataj (she/her/hers)
39:30
Love that, Sue!
Carol Plante (she/her)
46:25
TJ, what is your position on bail reform?
Nate Hine (he/him)
46:53
When can we abolish bail in VT?
Lori Holik
47:35
I was a federal prosecutor for 25 years. This is powerfully resonating with me. thank you, TJ.
Carol Plante (she/her)
51:14
Community Justice Centers, funded by the DOC, also process PRE-CHARGE restorative justice referrals and not just cases post-adjudication.
Jennifer Rataj (she/her/hers)
51:58
I know!!
Nate Hine (he/him)
52:45
Can't prosecutors stop asking for bail?
Carol Plante (she/her)
55:42
Yes, Sarah George is no longer using bail in Chittenden County.
Linda Gray
56:35
Have you considered systems of incarceration from other countries, like Denmark? A community and work are created, more like a safe way to recreate new habits and life paths, with outdoor activities etc.
Nate Hine (he/him)
57:32
Can we set a goal for VT to reduce our incarcerated percentage to be similar to Europe - ie way less than now?
megan_culp@comcast.net
58:13
Are mental health services and drug rehab offered in VT jails?
Linda Gray
58:18
Do you think state's attorneys offices should be staffed by more experienced attorneys, rather than "25 year old law school graduates" who perhaps haven't had as much life experience? Or, have you considered a system of mentoring of young attorneys by older attorneys?
Linda Caruso
58:39
Wonderful goal, Nate Hine.
Nate Hine (he/him)
59:44
Are prosecutors generally aware of the harm done to children by incarceration of their parents?
Carol Plante (she/her)
01:00:21
Incarceration causes trauma, often to people who have trauma histories. When they are released they need long-term supports for basic needs in addition to MH and substance use disorder supports.
Linda Caruso
01:00:46
I think that's where the Victim Advocates have input during the process of intake at the SAs office.
bobbie.lawson
01:01:18
I'm from Ground Zero for the opioid epidemic (WV). Thank you for mentioning holding the corporations accountable for the harm that was done.
Zara Reeves
01:04:08
thank you, T./J. I was also part of that table wih jeff.
Zara Reeves
01:04:30
This talk is very persuasive! Zara/Sarah
megan_culp@comcast.net
01:04:35
A positive preventive measure is to invest in mentoring organizations….several here in Vermont. One is Windsor County Mentors who are always looking for more caring adult mentors.
lesliegannon
01:04:47
What is your position on decriminalization of all drugs, recently suggested by Sarah George?
Nate Hine (he/him)
01:05:28
Can we avoid building a new women's prison?
Carol Plante (she/her)
01:06:06
Maybe the new women's prison could follow the model in Denmark.
bobbie.lawson
01:06:42
https://apnews.com/article/b51f28cc1334422593056f0439a4cc6e
Catherine Kidder
01:06:54
I am so happy to have your vision and compassion at work in Vermont. I’ve volunteered at St. J corrections for years and totally agree with all you’ve said. Thank you so much.
Linda Gray
01:07:09
Can you talk about Vermont's incarceration of women? Women have been moved from one inadequate facility to another....and we have more and more incarcerated women now than ever before....your thoughts?
lesliegannon
01:07:11
If not building a new one, updating the present one is necessary. BUT, before that training and ongoing evaluation of corrections personnel is primary.
Sue B
01:07:16
Carol, great suggestion!
Sue B
01:07:36
Not sure we could get that through DOC . . . we're talking about a huge culture shift.
pheneghan
01:07:42
Read "Waiting For An Echo" by Christine Montrose for getting an understanding of and appreciation for humane models of incarceration based on a very different culture and tradition of treating people like people.
Alexis Mcguiness
01:07:47
Are you looking to put trained social workers in police departments to help deesculate situations/
Carol Plante (she/her)
01:09:18
Some police departments have social workers-- Rutland, Barre and Montpelier, are the ones I know of.
Nate Hine (he/him)
01:11:10
Hartford has an SW too.
bobbie.lawson
01:14:57
Some times being courageous is taking responsibility and accepting the fall out. We're tougher then we think we are and can take the heat of the fall out.
Sue B
01:15:12
When we first sent prisoners out of Vermont, DOC refused to consider the impact on children of having their parent completely inaccessible to them. Do you see any improvement in that terribly wrongheaded attitude?
Carol Plante (she/her)
01:16:24
Risk reduction programs for substance use disorder saves lives.
Carmen Madriñán
01:16:49
Can you say something about your experience with processes of social reconciliation that can help individuals mend relationships in their communities
Nate Hine (he/him)
01:17:04
Why shouldn't we make the same public investments that Portugal does, as you mention? The economics would be favorable on balance.
Nate Hine (he/him)
01:18:10
What's your position on private prisons, particularly out of state?
Sue B
01:18:54
Thank you, TJ for taking this time with us. I am heartened whenever I hear your philosophy on criminal matters. Be well!
bobbie.lawson
01:19:17
That's a great idea. Restructuring a college.
bobbie.lawson
01:20:58
This is a great conversation on creative destruction
Nate Hine (he/him)
01:21:51
Can we take more DOC money and divert it to transitional housing?
Carol Plante (she/her)
01:22:07
What do you think about the Justice Reinvestment Act and efforts to reduce the prison population with reentry programs?
bobbie.lawson
01:22:18
https://dismasofvt.org/donate/
Karen
01:22:19
Thank you for holding/promoting and working for another vision for our community in this critically important area.
Kathleen Shepherd
01:22:47
Thanks for your wonderful presentation, your service to the state, and your compelling expression of compassionate and rehabilitative alternatives.
Linda Caruso
01:23:18
Thank you, TJ for your program today. Your humanity and empathy needs to grow within the LEO population in Vermont for things to start changing. Also, we have Victim's Advocates for the victims of a crime. Does that piece fall to our Public Defenders to know the impact and give voice to those facing incarceration?
megan_culp@comcast.net
01:24:25
Thank you for this very inspiring and hopeful presentation. It is clear what we are doing now is not working. The money put into incarceration could do so much more spent on communities, basic needs and rehabilitation.
Karen
01:25:36
I saw a presentation about Vermont CoSA program some time ago and was struck by, in spite of the incredible support given, what an uphill battle it is for those trying to re-enter our communities. I learned then that they have to pay for their public defender services on top of everything else. Seems punitive to me… can that be changed?
Heather Newcomb, VWW- she/her
01:26:07
Thank you TJ for your compassionate vision to restore humane treatment for incarcerated people that WILL return to our communities. It will take restorative practices for them to come back as contributors & engaged members.
Carol Plante (she/her)
01:26:12
What do you have to say about the disparities around race in the criminal justice system?
Heather Newcomb, VWW- she/her
01:26:42
Talent is EVERYWHERE, Opportunity is NOT
Jennifer Rataj (she/her/hers)
01:27:48
I love that, Heather!
Celia Chen
01:28:56
Is this amazing talk being recorded to share with others who couldn’t make it?
Jennifer Rataj (she/her/hers)
01:29:31
Hi, Celia, Yes! Thank you for asking. The link will be posted here: https://dismasofvt.org/hartford-dismas/free-virtual-speaker-series/
bobbie.lawson
01:30:48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY9DcIMGxMs
Jennifer Rataj (she/her/hers)
01:30:59
Bess O'Brien, March 26, 12:00 - 1:00 p.m. https://tinyurl.com/yhdrh3jf
Karen
01:31:18
Can you let us know when the link to this recording is available?
Jennifer Cocklin (she/her/hers)
01:31:33
Thank you, TJ, for this amazing discussion!
Zara Reeves
01:31:53
We won’t forget about youy al all!
Carmen Madriñán
01:32:05
Thank you TJ
Jeff Wilcox
01:32:10
Thank you so much! That was incredibly moving and inspiring!
Dave
01:33:35
Thank you! Very informative Sherry and DAve Whitney