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02/09/2021 Regular Planning Commission Meeting & Public Hearing - Shared screen with speaker view
Danielle
23:32
will someone on the panel please mute that 989 phone that keeps popping up it's terribly distracting
Julie Snurka
33:33
I would like to speak
Bob
34:46
Robert Kerr would like to speak
danderson
35:18
I would like to speak,( Kathleen Anderson)
Danielle
35:42
are these application documents/ traffic study, etc available after this meeting for public review?
Brandon Camerella
35:52
I would like to speak.
dfialka@bloomfield.org
36:13
Asphalt fumes are known toxins, EPA states asphalt processing are a major sources of hazardous pollutants such as toluene, formaldehyde, hexane....Exposure may cause cancer
Don Schmid
37:45
Can the Planning Commission pls explan MI vs M2
Sean Potyrala
38:22
I would like to speak
Megan McIntosh
38:32
I would like to speak.
Karian Mosher
40:29
Has there been a EPA study from the applicant for the asphalt plant?
Matthew Klein
42:38
I would like to speak regarding the Asphalt plant (Matt Klein)
jack
43:45
I would like to speak regarding the asphalt plant pertaining to rezoning
Sean Potyrala
55:58
I can't believe tyrone wants industrial business we are a small rural town with dirt roads and beautiful people. is the money really worth putting our town in jeopardy of becoming an eye sore with stench.
Taylor Potyrala
56:54
they want to allow a industrial plant in all of our views, but they don't want to let this man build a garage.
Michael Arant
57:57
I would like to speak
Sean Potyrala
58:11
let the man build
Gary
59:15
Curious what the road and traffic impact is. How many raw material trucks in and finished product out per day? What are the proposed traffic routes?
Gary
01:00:54
And I'm sure the golf course will love the smell of asphalt processing on a hot summer day.
Sean Potyrala
01:02:14
I happen to like coming home from the cities and being greeted with fresh air and a golf course.
hgundry
01:07:04
When discussing Asphalt plant, please refer back to the document that was just up regarding zoning and point #1 about odor and nuisance. Granted, this is in reference to residential but should be valid point on M2 zoning as well
Connie Esposito
01:08:21
Most of us moved to Tyrone Township for the peace and natural smells of the countryside. The ZF plant is relatively quiet and does not emit odors. What will be the hours of operation for this plant, the noise level in decimals, the odor emitted, and how would waste disposal be handled? What are the warehouses for? There are plenty of empty warehouses throughout the county and state that will remain that way for years!
Sean Potyrala
01:08:28
looks like they still want to backdoor the plant still with m1 zoning
Gary
01:12:21
Is this the same Capital Asphalt that has a facility in Lansing?
Megan McIntosh
01:12:24
https://sites.google.com/site/kundaparkneighbours/web-sites-against-asphalt-plants
Danielle
01:12:48
Gary - yes it is
Gary
01:15:36
Is there a map that has been posted that shows the proposed layout?
sandra Fior
01:17:23
How much money do you want the property?
Sean Potyrala
01:17:38
is this guy kidding me it was hell and back to find a house in this area...
jack
01:20:45
He's concerned or using the REU's as an argument towards approval. The detriment of this on our environment, residential property value, quality of life, pollution to surrounding lakes and residents is a major concern
sandra Fior
01:20:52
will these buffers hold back the smell?
jack
01:21:32
rezoning this to heavy industrial is not an obligation of the township
Gary
01:21:37
How far does the smell travel from an asphalt plant?You can smell the dump at 23 and Grand Blanc from miles away.
Joseph Perrera
01:22:17
the Chair mentioned he received several communications regarding this project. Will the Chair acknowledge how many communications and by whom?
Veronica
01:22:24
ah yes I can hear highway traffic 2.5 miles away from so i'm sure this idea will add more noise pollution to the mix
palli
01:22:30
Farming is the proper use for the property. The master plan should be revised to not allow industries that will pollute the air and water.
sandra Fior
01:22:48
how much is the property worth
danderson
01:22:48
I'll be explaining environmental impacts when I speak,
Karian Mosher
01:23:22
only people that benefit are the ones that don't have to live next to it.
Bethany Klein
01:25:19
Exactly! Karian is spot on. 20 acre buffer? So any speaking in favor of would feel comfortable living within this range? I think not.
Sean Potyrala
01:25:56
do these people even live in tyrone or near the area?
sandra Fior
01:26:15
of course they dont
Sean Potyrala
01:26:55
why should they dictate an area they don't even live in our near
Gary
01:27:16
Phase 2?
jack
01:28:07
this is absolutely horrid
Karian Mosher
01:28:12
I highly doubt it. need to talk to people who live close to the one in Lansing.
palli
01:28:33
These farm fields have 1000s of geese that visit each year. It should be a waterfowl migratory route nature preserve.
Taylor Potyrala
01:28:54
yes. because these "buffer" trees will make a huge difference 🙄
Veronica
01:29:09
also a lot of native plants located on the side of the road around this area
jack
01:29:11
why is this meeting limited to 100 people? MANY OTHERS ARE ATTEMPTING TO LOG ON AND PASS THEIR OPINIONS AGAINST THIS!!!
Gary
01:29:18
If the plant owner will build a house on the property and live there for the duration of plant operations....
Karian Mosher
01:30:05
Like someone already said for residential. same should apply for fumes air quality etc when close to residential
Gary
01:30:30
Operation hours?Traffic flow?Depth of water table?
Megan McIntosh
01:30:30
I feel nothing should move forward or be considered without a secondary meeting that allows for more than 100 people.
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:30:42
no one talks about east side of hwy. and people on center road and runyan. discharge fumes
jack
01:30:43
How do you think those wet lands are going to be effected by all of this
Danielle
01:30:54
I hope tyrone township does the required steps to increase zoom attendance levels - so the future meetings are not restricted to 100 people.
palli
01:31:07
The wetlands will be polluted.
Taylor Potyrala
01:31:38
they want that man's pole barn to benefit all of his neighbors.. but what does this plant does this do for any of us. he cant build a 2 car garage near his home, but you want to build a asphalt plant near all of our homes.. makes sense.
Gary
01:31:40
Is this a gas fired or oil fired HMA plant?
danderson
01:32:25
it will can be permitted for natural gas, different oils and recycled used oil.
Veronica
01:33:28
picture when us23 gets shut down for an accident how that will work on old 23
Sean Potyrala
01:33:42
I don't care how many acres we don't want this
jack
01:33:53
Runyan Lake already has negative effects from run off from Consumers Energy. How will we be guaranteed our community lakes will not be effected, along with the toxic fumes effecting farm land and animals. It WILL BE
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:33:55
whatvis happening to tyrone...please dont get bought out by this ugly site...were suppose to bring people in not a warehouse...
Gary
01:34:04
So oils and recycled oil are not potential hazardous waste?
Karian Mosher
01:34:10
yeah but they are asphalt semi trucks going in and out of facility correct
Megan McIntosh
01:34:12
@veronica!! I was just thinking about this. Our two lane highway can hardly handle the amount we have during peak times now.
Gary
01:34:33
How many gravel trucks in?
sandra Fior
01:35:05
do any of these board members live near this potential asphalt site?
Karian Mosher
01:35:23
was also thinking about that too
Janet Evans
01:35:30
The township hall is really close…
Derek Overly
01:35:41
Taken from the Township's website..."Today, the township is a picturesque rural community with rolling hills blended with lakes, golf courses and open spaces. The census population of Tyrone Township for 2010 was 10,020 citizens." I don't believe an asphalt plant is consistent with a "picturesque rural community"
Gary
01:36:50
Is this document available for public inspection / review?
Sean Potyrala
01:36:58
finally a good question from one of the members
jack
01:37:23
exactly Derek
palli
01:37:50
We have industrial sprawl in Flint. Why destroy another farm field?
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:38:20
i lost the ability to hear meeting...
Gary
01:39:21
How many tons per year produced?
Karian Mosher
01:39:30
what about the noise
Gary
01:39:46
Would this guy build a house and live on site?
Derek Overly
01:40:01
What is the proposed output of the plant? Are the air samples taken from the stack or through a calculation?
Karian Mosher
01:40:18
He needs to be asked that question
Don Schmid
01:40:43
State air quality levels are different from daily odors.
Marcia Dicks
01:41:11
Air Quality and smell are two diferent things
Veronica
01:41:27
so put them together and get a nice sound of industry
Gary
01:41:39
How many semis per day coming in and out?
Brandon Camerella
01:41:47
How is water quality going to be handle on this site
Sean Potyrala
01:42:10
I'm a truck driver this guy is selling snake oil
Taylor Potyrala
01:42:33
yes ^
Jim Lee
01:42:34
Asphalt plants are know to produce TOXIC air pollutants, Benzene, Formaldehyde and Cadmium that may cause cancer, central nervous system problems, liver Damage, respiratory problems and skin irritation
jack
01:42:44
omg! that is A LOT of truck traffic!!!!!!!
Karian Mosher
01:42:45
they will also tear up that intersecrion
Gary
01:42:52
How do raw materials get there?
jack
01:43:02
trucks, Garu
Connie Esposito
01:43:03
Mr Sawyer is a good politician - not answering the number of trucks per day!
swong
01:43:41
Jim, the toxic pollutants is my biggest concern
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:43:43
1. Have water use studies been completed, including analysis of potential process water discharge and stormwater runoff? I am interested to know whether the current wastewater treatment facility that would handle process waters have sufficient capacity and filtration/contaminant capture technologies to sufficiently treat the water. Also, are there sufficient planned wastewater runoff capture scenarios planned to mitigate contamination of surrounding wells and surface waters.2. Have point source air dispersion or receiver/receptor based models been run so as to pre-emptively determine average and worst-case concentrations of airborne contaminants? Processing techniques are relatively standard, so this type of modeling should allow for decent community-based risk assessments using various health based outcomes given emissions typical to the proposed processing facility.
sandra Fior
01:43:45
Has anyone ever heard of Love Canal New YorK?
Gary
01:43:49
How many trucks in and out?
jack
01:44:28
So that is 50 trucks a day? Plus other trucks bringing in material and disposal as well?
Sean Potyrala
01:44:50
and trucks bringing empty trailers for stand by
Don Schmid
01:44:52
How many people would be employed at this site?
Connie Esposito
01:44:53
Who is going to repair Old 23 from this plant's traffic?
Julie Snurka
01:44:57
Ask him how many tons per hour the drum plant is rated for. He is only talking about his crews, but he will be selling to other smaller pavers as well. Most plants in this area produce 4,000 tons per day.
Matthew Klein
01:45:33
8 trucks an hour because there are trucks in and out
jack
01:45:51
exactly, closer to 50
Matthew Klein
01:46:09
what is the plant capacity running 100%
Taylor Potyrala
01:46:28
they will be running more then 1 job a day..
Jim Lee
01:47:05
The EPA states Asphalt processing facilities are major sources of hazardous air pollutants.
Gary
01:47:15
Do the raw materails just magically appear there?
concerned citizen
01:47:18
what is the rated capacity of the plant in tons per hour?
danderson
01:47:26
his permit in lansing is permitted for 895,000 tons per year.
Jim Lee
01:47:29
One Truck a day is TOO Many
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:47:34
i have a well. only across the hwy on on the east..23 runyan lake.. my drinking water and air quality at stake...the only reason they want a 2nd business is to grow the business
Gary
01:47:34
Will they be recycling asphalt on site?
jack
01:48:17
wait for the lawsuits Rose makes a valid point about drinking water
Andrews phone
01:48:22
so they will only get on the express way?
danderson
01:48:51
yes there will be a large stockpile of recycled asphalt pavement. that is used back in the mix at up to 50% of the mix on a monthly basis. This is a standard permit for the State of Michigan
Derek Overly
01:48:54
How are fugitive emissions from the movement of the asphalt on belts, trucks, etc. measured?
Karian Mosher
01:48:57
More concerned about the pollutants air quality and noise
concerned citizen
01:49:16
what is the plant's rated capacity in tons per hour?
Gary
01:49:30
What about asphalt tailing that drop off the trucks on the road? I've been behind lowboys and they drop stuff for miles.
palli
01:49:40
There also will be asphalt tar trails from the plant to the entrance ramps.
Taylor Potyrala
01:50:10
mute your mics everyone. it's not our turn
Jeffery Ford
01:50:15
2,500T max output per day so 50 trucks in and out for raw material and final product (100 trucks total). But typical production would be 1000-1500 or 20-30 trucks. These aren't cruising on the expressway, they are accelerating and will be louder.
Jim Lee
01:50:24
Who is going to pay for the local Road deterioration. The state can't get it right now let alone all those trucks in our area
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:51:02
tyrone needs bike trails parks..dog parks.. healthy family activities
Brandon Camerella
01:51:06
very good questions, thank you Melissa
Sean Potyrala
01:51:08
the toxins grab dust and it settles. rain washes it into our ground water and we drink it in our wells. sounds like the sequel to Erin brocovich
jack
01:51:29
Ground saturation sounds like the Berlin and Farro catastrophe in Swartz Creek, MI years ago
Steve B
01:51:33
Melissa hit they nail on the head with the ground water concerns
Bethany Klein
01:51:46
great questions, well done!!!! @mellissa Lyn Millerick May THANK YOU!
Jim Lee
01:51:51
What the Federal Government say about Asphalt plants now that we are moving towards a green enviornment
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:52:06
oops! I apologize. I've been trying to log-in to the meeting for quite a while. Didn't realize public questions/commentary hadn't started yet.....
Gary
01:52:14
And this is Phase 1. They already mentioned a Phase 2
Mike Vaughn
01:52:38
I’m directly across the street. Thank you for asking about smell
sandra Fior
01:53:00
smell and air quality is 2 different things!
Jeffery Ford
01:53:10
Does environmental air quality = odors?
Gary
01:53:15
You can smell 1 dead skunk for more than a mile.
Jim Lee
01:53:19
Federal regulation of Asphalt plant emissions is inadequate to protect public health.
hankhillintx
01:54:05
Does Jon Sawyer or anyone in his family live close to one of his asphalt plants?
palli
01:54:08
We saw how well federal regulation handled PFAs!
Taylor Potyrala
01:54:46
989 number, mute your mic
Mike Vaughn
01:54:54
Asphalt plants are vented. It WILL smell!
Sean Potyrala
01:55:00
oh great I can a huge stack from my house....
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:55:12
Typically we would require modeling prior to issuing permits. These types of facilities have characteristic emissions and as there are proposed building diagrams already created, it's easy to run the suggested models using temperature/pressure/weather conditions to be able to determine ground-level concentrations.
ron
01:55:15
those 8 axels trailers will tear up the intersection,, is he paying for repairs
concerned citizen
01:55:16
baghouse does not reduce odors. Only filters particulate!!
Gary
01:55:18
Great. A +100 foot stack to be seen for miles
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:55:19
Same can be done for wastewater.
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:55:23
and stormwater
Troy Ridenour
01:55:26
Very concerned about the chemicals and what they will do to us and the land. There is still a lot of property in this area that is farmed.
jack
01:55:27
LIES
sandra Fior
01:55:32
This guy is lying through his teeth
concerned citizen
01:55:35
baghouse does not reduce odors. Only filters particulate!!
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:55:42
i should beable to sit in my back yard and not worry about...air quality..smell..run off...
jack
01:56:06
those stack pollutants will be coming in the lakes and green spaces
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:56:18
When mixing heights are low - overnight and mornings, vertical dispersion is limited = odors.
jack
01:56:19
what are the parts per million escaping the burn off
Sean Potyrala
01:56:35
that's because they're already dead
Matthew Klein
01:56:37
Stacks go up high to allow pollution to dilute while it settles. Does not address concerns of the public.
concerned citizen
01:56:43
baghouse does not reduce odors. Only filters particulate!!
sandra Fior
01:56:45
Mr Sawyer I am going to come up to your Lansing plant and see if it stinks
Bethany Klein
01:56:47
Is that man supposed to work with asphalt? this is insanity.
ron
01:56:55
the prevailing winds blow down hill in that area following the xway
Karian Mosher
01:56:59
because the complaints don't make it to him
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
01:57:01
Plant in lansing doesn't have similar surrounding communities/residential areas.
Veronica
01:57:31
HEAVY industrial location not like here AT ALL
Glen Fallis - Ledgewood Dr Fenton Mi
01:57:45
Lansing Plant via google maps.. https://www.google.com/maps/place/3888+S+Canal+Rd,+Lansing,+MI+48917/@42.6934827,-84.667427,1889m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8822bef16428753f:0x778445555becd1d3!8m2!3d42.6943072!4d-84.6631551
Jeffery Ford
01:57:47
The lansing plant is in a heavy industrial area with 1 house is a half mile south of the plant and 10 houses within a mile. We will have 15 houses within a half mile and over 70 within a mile.
Danielle
01:57:48
@ Melissa May - exactly right about lansing location plant!! this does not belong in our community !
Karian Mosher
01:57:55
Our area doesn't fit . Find another industrial area
jack
01:58:07
we are NOT heavy industrial. we beg of you not to make it that way
Steve B
01:58:44
every asphalt plant that I am aware of is located in a city area with sewer and water services, not in the country with ground water wells being the prevailing source of potable water for the community.
sandra Fior
01:58:56
WE DO NOT NEED HEAVY INDUSTRIAL IN SUCH A SMALL COMMUNITY!!!! I CAN'T SEE HOW THIS WILL BENEFIT ANY RESIDENTS
victoria white
01:59:11
It's all about tax dollars
Bob
01:59:14
we're not Saginaw
ron
01:59:15
the trucks going to trw have to make wide turns at center rd, some times cars have to move for them
jack
01:59:23
will more of his tenants bring in more heavy industrial
danderson
01:59:29
correct! they are in a heavy industrial area in Lansing...that was cited well by the township down there.
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:59:30
i grew up in saginaw..
Rose's Galaxy A51
01:59:39
thats why i left
Connie Esposito
01:59:45
There are already many many empty warehouses around! Why build more?
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:00:10
scummy happens when this is allowed
Karian Mosher
02:00:12
Right what are going in these warehouses
Matthew Klein
02:00:15
Unspecified M2 use is opening pandora box.There is a high demand for residential in this area. Look at the housing market. Nearly impossible to buy right now.Return on investment will not be there• Everyone is ignoring the golf course to the south and the half million dollar homes down the road• Wetlands are present in the lot directly to the west!• No M2 zoning currently heavy Industrial• Adverse effect in property value• Adverse effect in golf course use• Your meeting maxed out with the public opposed to this
Gary
02:00:44
What is the asphalt fume output at mg/cubic meter?It is a number and you should be able to tell us what iti is.
Danielle
02:00:47
take the asphalt plant to Saginaw this rezoning to M1 or M2 does NOT belong in here.
Bob
02:01:09
please do
Karian Mosher
02:01:12
well bye bye then
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:01:20
tske it down the road
Steve B
02:01:40
we don’t appreciate your package
Sean Potyrala
02:01:53
let this guy take his business somewhere else
Veronica
02:02:06
this is so outrageous I really don't even have the words to describe it
Gary
02:02:10
Will you be doing asphalt recycling on site?
Mary Harrold
02:02:42
The question is on the rezoning. Page 99-100 of the Future Plan defines the future use as light industrial. M1 and M2 is not part of the Future Land Use Plan.
hgundry
02:02:50
There's a reason that this is being brought up in February when the Lansing Plant is not running.....there should be time to evaluate the odor in other locations (and not in manufacturing only areas...i.e. Lansing)
Marcia Dicks
02:02:51
Find an Industrial area. Not our TWP
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:03:03
the 1st attny spoke about a paving business comingbin
Connie Esposito
02:03:14
So more truck traffic in and out!
Karian Mosher
02:03:16
This is heavy industrial not light
Bob
02:03:28
I find it hard to believe they won't be running 24 hrs a day when much of the asphalt paving occurs during night hours when traffic is minimal...
Jeffery Ford
02:03:36
The Master Plan already accounts for PICO which covers most of the warehouses and 10 acre parcels Dan Callan discussed at the beginning. No need to rezone to M1 or M2.
Gary
02:03:51
Will they have on site fire protection or are they going to rely on the Fenton / Hartland Volunteer?
Mike Vaughn
02:04:04
So, it wouldn’t even bring jobs!
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:04:17
anyone see horrible car accidents on our roads
concerned citizen
02:04:43
Many MDOT jobs REQUIRE night work so how can Jon say they will operate only during daylight hours?
Brandon Camerella
02:04:45
and he caught himself from saying fumes
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
02:04:49
Baghouses don't control for VOCs
danderson
02:04:55
NOT TRUE
Gary
02:04:56
At what micron level?
concerned citizen
02:05:28
Many MDOT jobs REQUIRE night work so how can Jon say they will operate only during daylight hours?
jack
02:05:31
how many outside trucks will be coming in for material waste and supplies and asphalt. Like Dan's Excavating
Matthew Klein
02:05:38
Commissioners, I lived 8 miles from a plant and could smell it. On behalf of the hundreds that have logged in, do not let this plant go in.
Bethany Klein
02:05:42
WOW! This mans lack of knowledge is terrifying.
Brandon Camerella
02:05:44
There is heavy wind in this area
concerned citizen
02:05:51
What time will John load his first truck in the morning??
Gary
02:05:54
Where does the gravel pile and sand pile come from and how many trucks to bring it in?
jack
02:05:54
now a sand pile? where do the dust particles go? lakes, lungs,
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
02:05:56
100 ft stacks push PM high enough that there will not settle onto vehicles in the building yard
hankhillintx
02:06:05
I can't believe that our twp planning commissions would actually entertain the possibility of such a development. This is an absolutely terrible idea. It would produce foul odors in a large radius of land and it would only be a matter of time before plumes of toxic chemicals would contaminate ground water. That is in addition to the terrible traffic from huge heavy trucks that would destroy the roads.
sandra Fior
02:06:05
THIS GUY IS LYING. IM FROM NEW JERSEY I KNOW WHAT POLLUTION THIS WILL BRING TO FENTON
Gary
02:07:13
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2001-110/pdfs/2001-110.pdf
Andrews phone
02:08:08
that’s a 20 year old study
Gary
02:08:51
https://www.safetyandhealthmagazine.com/articles/18774-understand-the-hazards-of-asphalt
concerned citizen
02:09:05
Hot Mix Asphalt needs to get to the job site at approximately 7:00am so that means Jon will need to start his plant at least by 5:00 am on a daily basis
Matthew Klein
02:09:10
"The complex chemical composition of asphalt makes it difficult to identify the specific component(s) responsible for adverse health effects observed in exposed workers.  Known carcinogens have been found in asphalt fumes generated  at  worksites. Observations of acute irritation in workers from airborne and dermal  exposures to asphalt fumes and aerosols and the potential for chronic health effects, including  cancer, warrant continued diligence  in the  control of  exposures."  (Foreward Pg. iii)https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/2001-110/pdfs/2001-110.pdf
Andrews phone
02:10:16
https://www.osha.gov/archive/oshinfo/priorities/asphalt.html
Marcia Dicks
02:10:22
It will decrease property value in the area, not to mention the golf courses...
Sean Potyrala
02:11:01
we all deserve to speak
Karian Mosher
02:11:07
Need to find others that live next asphalt plants for feedback.
concerned citizen
02:11:13
Hot Mix Asphalt needs to get to the job site at approximately 7:00am so that means Jon will need to start his plant at least by 5:00 am on a daily basis
James’s iPhone
02:11:14
I can’t imagine that anyone thinks this is a good idea.
Gary
02:11:21
https://www.bredl.org/pdf/BeSafe_Asphalt.pdf
Andrews phone
02:11:44
send them packing and you won’t have to hear it
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:11:49
remember only 100 people can be on..not everyone will be part of what was said or not
victoria white
02:11:55
They should know that if we all have the same concerns, you should want to know. There is a large number of us opposed. The PC should know
hgundry
02:12:08
Can you remind everyone to stay on mute when they are not called to talk so we can hear everything
Danielle
02:13:27
they've had plenty of time to speak - please allow the public to speak.
Andrews phone
02:13:45
as he coughs.
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:13:48
supposed to be our time
Sean Potyrala
02:13:50
exalt you work for the guy...
Karian Mosher
02:14:04
would you live next to the plant and be honest
Bethany Klein
02:14:34
so the man who was supposed to speak just handed it off to another?
sandra Fior
02:14:48
Do you think they are going to bite the hand that feeds them????!!!
concerned citizen
02:14:55
how is the air quality monitored specifically???
jack
02:15:01
we are not a heavy industrial community!!!!!
concerned citizen
02:15:09
Do they have continuous air quality monitoring?
concerned citizen
02:15:24
ow is the air quality monitored specifically???
James’s iPhone
02:15:42
Odor not monitored -Imagine that!
Bethany Klein
02:15:45
Sir, I would like to know, how is your health?
Joseph Perrera
02:15:46
2 hours and we're not to public comment yet? Seriously??
Karian Mosher
02:15:48
THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT LOCATION
Danielle
02:15:53
does this fella get a timer to talk too ?
Derek Overly
02:15:55
Can he be more specific as to what and how it's measured?
concerned citizen
02:16:10
What are the parts in place that Ryan says monitor air quality???
jack
02:16:24
the best is for it not to be rezoned and be here
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
02:16:29
When mixing heights are low, VOCs are held close to ground level, this is when you get odor - threshold typically well below regulated limits for individual VOCs (HAPs).
Veronica
02:16:29
"claim"
concerned citizen
02:16:41
They claim??? Who claims??? Where is the data??
Derek Overly
02:16:42
They cannot monitor fugitive emissions, only what is coming from the stack!!
Sean Potyrala
02:16:48
grilled meats never killed
Melissa Lyn Millerick May
02:17:06
So, they can meet permitted limits, and odors can still be present.
Bethany Klein
02:19:10
Finally some truth.
Brandon Camerella
02:19:24
Give her 6 min
hgundry
02:19:27
Nice Job Julie Snurka!
Megan McIntosh
02:19:41
Julie!
Pam's iPad
02:19:50
These guys are painting a pretty picture now, monitoring a stack 100’ in the air and what’s being expelled are two different things. If the plant manager wants production then the report can be anything reported by whomever is reporting it.
Marcia Dicks
02:19:57
t
danderson
02:20:09
and clarkston
palli
02:20:22
I agree! Finally some truth! Thanks Julie!
Mike Vaughn
02:20:24
she rocked! thank you
Steve Curto
02:20:41
Thanks for the truth Julie!
sandra Fior
02:20:47
yhank you Julie
Amy Cyphert and John Bontempo
02:20:56
We would like to speak
Marcia Dicks
02:20:57
Thank you Julie
jack
02:21:06
Thank you Julie
Joseph Perrera
02:22:25
Can the next person give their 3minutes to Kathleen?
Danielle
02:23:31
jon sawyer please MUTE YOUR MIC.
palli
02:23:58
Thanks Kathleen!
Andrews phone
02:24:27
give my 3 minutes to kathleen
palli
02:25:11
Please give my three minutes to Kathleen too!
Gary
02:27:06
Me to if they get to me
Gary
02:27:49
Ever try to frive past the old gravel pit when the trucks were lined up
Troy Ridenour
02:28:11
We definitely don't need this type of business here, they aren't even providing jobs for our area.
Eric Wheeler
02:28:51
I'd like to talk
Mark Niemi
02:29:19
I'd like to talk
Andrews phone
02:32:21
it’s zoned as fr farming residential
Jim Lee
02:32:36
Currently Zoned as Farming and Residential
Troy Ridenour
02:32:55
Currently the property is Farming Residential they want to change it to M1/M2
Megan McIntosh
02:33:03
There is one part of the proposed parcel that is currently M1 but the majority are FR.
Brandon Camerella
02:34:57
When is the approval or denial going to happen?
concerned citizen
02:35:07
Is the township recording this meeting?
Gary
02:37:14
What is the proposed lifespan of the plant and what is the reclamation plan?Where is the ISO Risk Assessment for the 5 plant categories?
Brandon Camerella
02:37:38
When is the approval or denial going to happen?
Amy Cyphert and John Bontempo
02:38:54
I would like to speak
sandra Fior
02:39:36
Ill move too
Sean Potyrala
02:40:00
I'll be looking for a home farther north as well
Mary Harrold
02:40:09
I didn’t realize that I didn’t send this to everyone I would like to speak mary harrold
Taylor Potyrala
02:40:18
THIS GUY! THANK YOU
jack
02:40:20
totally agree
Don Schmid
02:41:41
Do real estate agents have a legal obligation to share this information with prospective home / property purchasers?
jack
02:45:33
thank you Mary
Gary
02:45:45
Briefly yes here
Glen Fallis - Ledgewood Dr Fenton Mi
02:45:46
Daniel can I have a few minutes
Mike Vaughn
02:45:47
very good point mary
Andrews phone
02:45:49
give Kathleen my 3 minutes
Sean Potyrala
02:46:03
I voted for you Dan remember that😂
Pam's iPad
02:46:32
I’d like to speak- John Dickie
Andrews phone
02:46:41
I think Dan knows the right thing to do and this is just process
palli
02:47:22
We need another phase 1 meeting to allow more than 100 people!
Sean Potyrala
02:48:26
preach Garyyyyy
jack
02:48:35
I think everyone agrees with Gary
Sean Potyrala
02:48:47
proud to be that guys neighbor
sandra Fior
02:48:48
thank you Gary
palli
02:48:58
More money is made by selling industrial land vs residential land.
Taylor Potyrala
02:48:59
thank you Gary! we are your neighbors on Mabley Hill!
hankhillintx
02:49:07
Just do a google search of gaseous emissions from asphalt plants and the health impacts. That does not even address the noise generated by the gravel mixing and the continuous flow of huge trucks in and out of the facility. I have yet to hear one citizen who supports this plant. I hope that the commission is listening.
danderson
02:52:58
can I get three more minutes
Steve B
02:53:16
I would like to speak
Gary
02:53:31
Sean / Taylor...Did you switch over to Waste Management since Dougies won't pick up any more?
Andrews phone
02:54:08
I would
Taylor Potyrala
02:54:22
we will consider moving as well
Gary
02:54:36
How much do you think you will lose when they smell asphalt?
Taylor Potyrala
02:55:37
was their traffic study from 2012?
Sean Potyrala
02:55:54
Formosa plastics in texas was busted on wide scale for faking EPA samples. what makes us think it can be done here.
Sean Potyrala
02:56:45
dan I want to address that guy comparing an asphalt plant to a burger king...
palli
02:57:33
How will public input to the new master plan be received?
Bob
02:57:58
good point on trucks coming from all directions. could see trucks coming up larson road in Howell and travelling east on clyde, fausset, etc to old 23. huge impact beyond Tyrone Twp.
Megan McIntosh
02:58:02
Can you please update on the next meeting?
Bob
02:58:17
Latson rd
jack
02:58:20
Thank you for listening Steve
Troy Ridenour
02:58:37
Thank you!!!!
Andrews phone
02:58:37
yes!!!
palli
02:58:39
Thanks Steve!
sandra Fior
02:58:39
Thank you r Krause
Mark Niemi
02:58:41
Thanks Steve, helps with my decision I need to make!!
Sean Potyrala
02:58:42
Steve you're the real Goat!
danderson
02:58:46
Thank you Steve.
Danielle
02:58:48
thank you steve !! AMEN!
Brandon Camerella
02:58:49
Mic drop
Veronica
02:58:49
thank you
Rose's Galaxy A51
02:58:51
thank you steve!!!!
Mike Vaughn
02:58:53
awesome steve
Taylor Potyrala
02:58:55
thank you Steve!
Sean Potyrala
02:59:03
Also I'm glad to hear our board are residents
Gary
02:59:05
Thank you Steve!!
jack
02:59:21
I hope all of the board members are listening
jeff
02:59:21
Thanks Steve
michelle
02:59:23
Thank you Steve!
Bob
02:59:28
reppin' the residents!
Sean Potyrala
02:59:53
Steve 2024!!!
Danielle
03:00:10
Thank you for your time and for all you do for this community!
Pam's iPad
03:00:15
Thank you Steve, you will be remembered. John Dickie
jack
03:00:52
Mr. Sawyer the residents do not think that way.
danderson
03:00:54
Thank you Mr. Sawyer
Sean Potyrala
03:01:17
spoken like a true capitalists
Taylor Potyrala
03:01:51
not safe with him around
Eric Wheeler
03:02:39
Thanks Council