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AEROx Virtual Conference - 2021 - Shared screen with speaker view
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:17:14
Looks like connection came up the most
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:18:06
now communication
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:18:30
This word cloud would be a great set to use for some writing /journaling in an advisory
Peter Rawitsch
05:25:53
We will have a Q&A session at the end.If you have a question, type STACK and then your question.This will allow us to call on participants in a way that will lift the voices of people who have been historically marginalized in conversations.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:29:12
next menti.com poll
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:29:19
What do you need from this workshop?
Peter Rawitsch
05:29:29
We want to hear from you. Using your phone or separate tab, go to https://www.menti.com/Enter code: 73 75 75Answer this question:What do you need?
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:30:40
your answers on menti.com will build a group list
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:31:08
LOL real estate
Raj K
05:31:18
10 acres of beautiful land..... =)
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:31:21
Inspiration came up multiple times
Tom-Scott Gordon
05:34:46
We titled our student film following Hurricane Katrina, “DISCONNECTED”
Peter Rawitsch
05:35:08
We will have a Q&A session at the end.If you have a question, type STACK and then your question.This will allow us to call on participants in a way that will lift the voices of people who have been historically marginalized in conversations.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:37:25
The truth shall be told. Differing philosophies can cause friction between coteachers.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:37:56
Lack of empathy from a teacher can cause a snowball effect of negative consequences for the kid
Stephanie Sewell
05:38:27
Yes, and it's tough to process that kind of thing with your kids:(
Peter Berg
05:38:56
A lot of times teachers get so beaten down by the system they lose that piece of themselves
Stephanie Sewell
05:39:13
and kids are so powerless in that situation.
Heather Kostell
05:39:53
I totally agree, Peter Berg
Richard Fransham
05:41:39
“The energy is not there.” Great observation Aixa.
Ivan Beeckmans
05:41:48
Often, it is the relationships that don’t go well that you remember most. Most of us just assume, rightly, that you will get along with others so when it doesn’t you start to think, ‘What?’.
Sarhani Saidin
05:42:01
similar situations are observed here in Malaysia. lack of positive relationship in public schools.
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
05:44:49
ANY IDEAS ON HOW WE COME BACK FROM THIS???
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:45:04
we teachers don’t get paid much, the thank you and motivation is in the joy and relationships we have . Thats whats motivating for me at least.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:45:31
I see you question Keah
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:46:50
Google me lol
Elmarie Hyman
05:47:34
I agree with James, we always use the first few minutes of each class having the kids share something that happened during the week, good or not that fun and then the kids feel more connected and heard/seen
Peter Rawitsch
05:51:32
We will have a Q&A session at the end.If you have a question, type STACK and then your question.This will allow us to call on participants in a way that will lift the voices of people who have been historically marginalized in conversations.
Tom-Scott Gordon
05:52:52
So true Aixa. Over-testing adds to the disconnect.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:53:19
I strongly believe that the school calendar and school schedules need to be changed in order to have work life balance for families and teachers and to preserve childhood for kids
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:54:03
So far I have Keah on stack to speak in the Q & A. please type stack if you wish to add a question
Gayle Hanlon
05:56:22
I was in a middle school in Montreal where we were invaded by the FLQ!
Najmi Sri Aria School
05:56:41
Wow! a simple thing such as having a door, being seperated in classrooms - can create big impact on our student's learning experience!
Najmi Sri Aria School
05:57:17
More reasons for looking into alternatives - so that we can create a better relationships in schools
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
05:58:26
bring in more social workers and family workers
Najmi Sri Aria School
05:58:42
hear- hear Heather!!!
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
05:59:01
your not alone sista
Peter Berg
05:59:10
Lines on floor like in prison
Jason Shipley
05:59:14
we discuss that in my class.
Tom-Scott Gordon
05:59:28
I visited two different high schools in lower Bronx as an assistant volunteer photo instructor. By far the weirdest learning environments I had visited at the time.
Najmi Sri Aria School
05:59:42
thanks Axia!!!
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:00:01
*Aixa
Ivan Beeckmans
06:00:03
Spaces matter
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:00:11
It does!
Learning Without Borders
06:00:12
Two of the buildings that look the same as 150 years ago are prisons and schools :-(
Raj K
06:00:33
I agree.. (I taught in urban schools for 12 years), and schools are similar to prisons.... where else do people have to walk in straight lines, where else do people have to ask permission to go to that bathroom, where else are people FORCED to be in a place that they don't want to be EVERY day, where else are people not allowed to speak unless given permission, etc., etc....)
John Gundayao
06:00:55
Workplaces?
Raj K
06:01:10
People can quit work whenever they want. People choose their jobs.
Jason Shipley
06:01:29
inmates (in jail) in texas get 2 hrs of outside yard time every day . ( more than most kids)
Stephanie Sewell
06:01:40
This is what Unschoolingschool.com is exploring.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:01:46
Recess is a big issue unions need to put in their negotiations
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:01:50
One of our students from Sri Aria School will be showing his design later! He was inspired to make more engaging spaces for him and his friends in the school
Allison Wimer
06:01:54
I think a venn diagram needs to be made between schools and prisons
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:02:10
this is one of the things that can be done, use the power of organized labor to improve situations and working conditions
Raj K
06:02:11
@Stephanie I just looked into Unschooling School yesterday... I love the idea! Anything similar going on in the U.S.?
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:03:15
So fare I have Keah and Gayle with hands up, so I have added them to stack
Stephanie Sewell
06:03:17
The UnsS team has folks from Canada, the US, the UK and more. I would say these are international ideas and concepts :) We have a free online discussion every Tuesday at noon EST
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:03:30
feel free to type stack for questions during the Q &A
Ivan Beeckmans
06:04:23
Jail vs School Venn diagram: https://memebase.cheezburger.com/graphjam/tag/jail
Tom-Scott Gordon
06:04:24
@Heather: The Albany Free School has permanently reformed the entire inner-city ‘hood’ surrounding it, making a real community of what might have formerly appeared to be a hopeless environment.
Richard Fransham
06:05:03
Unschooling School has much good material on its website: https://www.unschoolingschool.com/index.html. Progressive Education is another valuable site: https://www.progressiveeducation.org.
Mara Donahoe
06:05:57
Yes!
Peter Rawitsch
06:06:14
We will have a Q&A session at the end.If you have a question, type STACK and then your question.This will allow us to call on participants in a way that will lift the voices of people who have been historically marginalized in conversations.
Ivan Beeckmans
06:06:26
Curriculum also prevents relationships from forming.
Heather Kostell
06:06:48
Tom- yes, I leave near the Free School. It's a great place for kids to be kids.
Andrea Barrientos, PhD.
06:06:50
Nuestra Escuela is amazing...
Stephanie Sewell
06:07:15
@Ivan Yes. Thank you for that sentence. I have never thought of it quite that way before.
Liz Campbell
06:08:01
@ Ivan, yes and I would add grading prevents relationships from forming
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:08:32
Open Classroom Concept:We are advocating that in our school in Malaysiahttps://www.sriaria.com/It has been a whole new experience for us as educators since 2018.Listening this discussion just made our work in Malaysia even more serious now.Inspired!
Ivan Beeckmans
06:09:16
It also has to do with numbers. Class and school size. Apparently we can only really have relationships with 150 people. Schools are usually much larger than that.
Ivan Beeckmans
06:09:34
BINGO! Too big.
Ivan Beeckmans
06:10:45
The factory model is also designed for ‘efficiency’. More numbers is more ‘efficient’.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:12:08
Class size, number and role of adults in classrooms, pressure of outside requirements , school environment and aesthetics.. school schedule and calendar… All of it need to be fixed
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:12:18
yes the power dynamic
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:13:02
Efficient sounds like “We are too cheap to pay for more teachers and cover their pensions”
Peter Berg
06:13:27
Check out Ken Danford’s work with Northstar and Liberated Learners
Peter Berg
06:13:33
Ken has a workshop at 8 tonight
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
06:14:09
looking forward to hearing Ken
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
06:14:29
thanks for the reminder
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:15:31
Teacher stress and disorganization leads to missed opportunities to connect
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:15:58
Changing schedules and programs and chaos of vacancies and substitutes can cause challenges
Gayle Hanlon
06:16:42
http://childrenofthecode.org
Peter Rawitsch
06:17:16
We will have a Q&A session at the end.If you have a question, type STACK and then your question.This will allow us to call on participants in a way that will lift the voices of people who have been historically marginalized in conversations.
Zoom user Cindy Fadel
06:17:21
Hi Ken
Ken Danford
06:17:39
i will open up the room for the 8:00 panel around 7:45 for people to come early and say hello.
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:19:27
or PD that focuses on relationships
Learning Without Borders
06:20:21
v thn8[7,
Peter Berg
06:21:28
and how about time to get into trouble
Peter Berg
06:21:30
:)
Peter Berg
06:21:46
Someone is making money from that
Ivan Beeckmans
06:21:55
Assessment is crushing
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:22:20
hypersurveillance is the biggest problem IMHO
Peter Rawitsch
06:22:34
We will have a Q&A session at the end.If you have a question, type STACK and then your question.This will allow us to call on participants in a way that will lift the voices of people who have been historically marginalized in conversations.
Ivan Beeckmans
06:23:54
Not door…window ;-)
Tom-Scott Gordon
06:25:28
Gayle just entered the running for Natl. Director of Ed…
Gayle Hanlon
06:25:57
AHHHHHH!
Gayle Hanlon
06:26:12
OK… I don’t know how to NOT volunteer
Kathy Magnusson (she/her/hers)
06:26:21
I heard you Keah!
Elmarie Hyman
06:26:23
Haha, it's a great idea, lots of logistics to make that work, but that is how our system at Learn Beyond The Book basically works, so why not try it in the public schools where they already have all the infrastructure
Ivan Beeckmans
06:26:48
It takes time to convince the ones we love. Just drop some hints to make them think.
Richard Fransham
06:27:33
For three approaches to unschooling our schools: http://www.ucyottawa.com
Kathy Kendrick
06:27:48
Keah, even the kids need to be re-trained.
Sue Haynes
06:27:49
Pertinent to this discussion is a book I recently published: Pockets of Freedom: Unlocking the Power of Intuitive Teaching and Learning. Three teachers share stories about creating freedom spaces within public school classrooms.
Stephanie Shuler
06:28:13
Thank you everyone.
Kathy Kendrick
06:28:23
It's all about expectations and conformity. They need to learn to embrace freedom.
Kathy Kendrick
06:29:00
But it's an adjustment!! @Heather: the "should" mentality!!!
Allison Wimer
06:29:11
I think a lot of older kids like the social aspect of school and perhaps may fear losing that if they are pulled out
Gayle Hanlon
06:29:18
Oh Keah! My nephew after 6 months of deschooling and unschooling very happily… and successfully, he (13yrs old) asked to go back to school. we asked why? and he said… because it’s easy there you don’t have to think for yourself they just tell you what to do!
Gayle Hanlon
06:29:35
we said NO - not a good enough reason to go back to school
Elmarie Hyman
06:29:42
It's the connections they've made in public school already, and they're used to it, if they can make some connections with homeschoolers, it could maybe help and let them get into things they really like even while still in school, they might be excited that they can delve deeper into it once they have more time
Tom-Scott Gordon
06:29:56
Our panelists are clearly exemplary pros. A great school would need such a collective spirit.
Gayle Hanlon
06:30:06
sitting on your hands while others critizise you
Learning Without Borders
06:30:25
a factor is that we have a very Narrow definition of what learning looks like…
Dr Putri Afzan Maria Zulkifli
06:31:13
unschooling takes around 2 years to kick in - that’s what I observe
Erynn Albert
06:31:19
There is a great book called Wintering The Power of Rest and Retreat in Difficult Times. Speaks to the trusting the times that you can’t see the growth ..
Learning Without Borders
06:31:20
we’ve often said one month for every year they have been in school.
Elmarie Hyman
06:31:23
the social part is the trick for that age group
Heather Kostell
06:31:26
Yes- people think learning can only happen during school hours.
Erynn Albert
06:31:35
What is the Bronx group called?
Richard Fransham
06:31:46
Thank you Sue. Derry Hannam will be speaking at this conference. He wrote Another Way Is Possible - https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/1029100. He has a20% Proposal - https://www.progressiveeducation.org/the-20-project-for-schools-a-modest-proposal-by-derry-hannam/
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:31:52
search the Bronx unschooling and homeschooling groups
Kristina House (she/her)
06:32:18
My oldest daughter is now 15 but she went to school for Junior Kindergarten to the end of Gr 1 and it took her 18mths to de-school from just that. And 2 out of those 3 years were half days…
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
06:33:15
I’m all in with unschooling but it won’t pass my husband, and the boys follow him
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:33:16
If you want an inspiration of a public school principal connected to the community look up Luis Torres
Stephanie Sewell
06:33:32
@KeahI would love it if you got in touch. I am thinking of creating a workshop for situations like this where one spouse wants to unschool / homeschool and one doesn't. My family had this situation, and I've seen it so much with the families I work with. I would like to speak with a few more people to see exactly how to create the workshop. stephaniejsewell@gmail.com www.stephaniesewell.ca so you know what I'm all about:)
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
06:33:56
I’m trying to find a way to work in the system
Elaine
06:34:14
title of some books on unschooling? or articles?
Cameron Coleman, Ed.D.
06:34:14
@thebronxprincipal is the truth.
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
06:34:18
what’s his name?
Cameron Coleman, Ed.D.
06:34:23
Luis Torres
Peter Rawitsch
06:34:29
Luis Torres
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:34:44
Asset Mapping!In Sri Aria School, we get parents to volunteer back to the school so that the students get what they need.
Deb O'Rourke
06:34:53
I’m a very committed free school parent and ex-staff-member. My experience is that when kids (rarely in our school) want to leave for the mainstream, they do well. But their experience with ALPHA helps them to communicate, advocate and be critical thinkers in the institutional spaces. I don’t understand trying to force a “deschooling” experience on a youth.
Stephanie Sewell
06:35:00
books etc on unschooling - go to the unschoolingschool.com website. there are "crash courses" of videos, articles, etc outlined there.
Heather Kostell
06:35:11
Najmi, that's awesome!
Learning Without Borders
06:35:39
He created community…
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
06:36:21
Jamal?
Ivan Beeckmans
06:36:34
@Deb agreed, it should be a choice to leave a school.
Cameron Coleman, Ed.D.
06:36:38
Jamaal bowman
Cameron Coleman, Ed.D.
06:36:54
He is a congressman, and a former principal
Erynn Albert
06:36:57
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaal_Bowman
Raj K
06:37:12
and LOTS of diversity!
Sarhani Saidin
06:37:18
we've heard them in the movies!
Kathy Magnusson (she/her/hers)
06:37:20
https://myurls.co/jamaalbowman
Peter Berg
06:37:22
https://bowman.house.gov/
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:37:44
AEROx is on a roll! im so pumped up
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
06:37:46
yankee stadium
Najmi Sri Aria School
06:37:46
hahahaa
Deb O'Rourke
06:37:49
Bronx as the Fertile Crescent—wow!
Stephanie Sewell
06:38:13
Yes, no matter how much you think your child / teen would thrive outside of school, as an unschooler, you can't force it! I have one teen who is a self-directed learner, and one who is a very-committed schooler :) And I would not be able to make either do the opposite.
Tom-Scott Gordon
06:39:31
Anecdotal comparisons between school and prisons extend way beyond Bronx PS#-whatever,…
Elmarie/Learn Beyond The Book
06:39:32
I agree Stephanie
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:40:30
sure
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:40:44
bronxeducatorsunited4justice@gmail
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:40:51
#bxeu4j on twitter
Keah L (Delaware) (USA)
06:41:08
thank you
Peter Rawitsch
06:41:15
James E. Fordjef54@comcast.netHeather Kostellhkostell@gmail.comPeter Rawitschrawitschp@mac.comAixa RodriguezBronxeducatorsunited4justice@gmail.com
Peter Berg
06:41:19
We will also be sending out a spreadsheet for contact information
Peter Rawitsch
06:41:39
When public schools reopen, we don’t want to go back to normal.Facebook: bit.ly/whenpublicschoolsreopenWebsite: whenpublicschoolsreopen.orgEmail: whenpublicschoolsreopen@gmail.com Twitter: @whenpsreopen Instagram: whenpublicschoolsreopenYouTube: bit.ly/whenpublicschoolsreopenyoutube
Peter Berg
06:41:49
You can save this chat
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:42:03
FB - When Public Schools Reopen
Peter Berg
06:42:04
go to the three … dot icon
Dr Putri Afzan Maria Zulkifli
06:42:08
thank you everyone!
John Gundayao
06:42:12
Do people have opinions on the push to reopen schools that cite mental health? It just seems absurd to me that a place that is the source of a lot of mental illness is somehow the great savior.
Peter Berg
06:42:14
it will say save chat
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:42:15
FB Bronx Educators United for Justice
Tom-Scott Gordon
06:42:23
BRAVO!
Jason Shipley
06:42:29
thank you.
Dr Putri Afzan Maria Zulkifli
06:42:37
awwww thank you! would love to connect.
Tom-Scott Gordon
06:42:45
Very glad to meet you all!
Taryn Helper
06:42:49
Thank you so much Peter, James, Aixa and Heather. This was such a wonderful conversation with so much valuable content. Well done!!!
Aixa Rodriguez BXEU4J
06:42:53
Glad to connect with you all!
Jason M
06:43:06
Thank you. That was great
Learning Without Borders
06:43:09
Thank you all!
Erynn Albert
06:43:10
Thank you ! Aixa when will you run for office. You’ve got my vote
Peter Rawitsch
06:43:17
When public schools reopen, we don’t want to go back to normal.Facebook: bit.ly/whenpublicschoolsreopenWebsite: whenpublicschoolsreopen.orgEmail: whenpublicschoolsreopen@gmail.com Twitter: @whenpsreopen Instagram: whenpublicschoolsreopenYouTube: bit.ly/whenpublicschoolsreopenyoutube
Sarhani Saidin
06:45:30
thank you!
Peter Berg
06:46:15
https://www.aeroconference.org/aeroxattendees
Learning Without Borders
06:47:14
Thanks everyone!
Peter Berg
06:47:34
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/83841694565?pwd=YVhzRWJYUG12aWx0RXU4NFBZNVVtdz09
Heather Kostell
06:47:57
Thank you so much, Peter for having us.
Peter Berg
06:48:34
My pleasure heather thank you all so much
Cameron Coleman, Ed.D.
06:48:37
This is incredible. Thank you for organizing and than you for sharing.
Peter Berg
06:49:46
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Peter Berg
06:51:47
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Peter Berg
06:57:19
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Peter Berg
07:02:58
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