Zoom Logo

Democracy Happy Hour - Shared screen with speaker view
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
18:22
If you don’t know the indigenous land where you reside on, you can look it up here: https://native-land.ca/
Norm Conrad
18:50
Norm Conrad, Mount Vernon, Upper Skagit tribes
Leona Hassing
19:26
Leona. - Umatilla, Palouse, Cayuse, Walla Walla
Arnold Byron
19:45
Samish -- Swinomish
Bob Findlay
19:47
I am also on Coast Salish & Duwamish land & honor their stewardship past, present & future as well as quest for federal recognition
Keitha Bryson
20:09
Keitha Bryson - Tumwater, Nisqually
Bob Findlay
20:45
when women'
Bob Findlay
21:04
When women's rights are under attack, what do we do??
Jackie Rivas
23:03
The right to privacy is under attack - same sex marriage, interracial marriage, birth control...
Norm Conrad
24:22
7
Yvonne Brandon
26:37
Shouldn't the ADA trump the State law?
Linda Bock
27:18
May the fourth be with us all!
Jeremy Chase
28:06
@linda lol you too!
Linda Brewster
28:06
Good question Yvonne Brandon.
Bob Findlay
34:55
still acting like they are up against people who fight fair & they are not!
Bob Findlay
36:05
Not to defend Bezos (or Amazon) however newspapers are accountable to regulations that social media skirts
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
37:20
Melvin Mackey β€” Vashon, WA β€” Sqababsh Land
Linda Brewster
38:47
I'll be a panelist on the New Corp event...I'll add a link.
Dwight Rousu
39:28
Fastest ever!!!
Linda Brewster
40:33
Monday May 9th at 6:30.https://meaningfulmovies.org/events/the-new-corporation/And here is the Zoom link to watch it then.https://zoom.us/j/96698666643
Bob Findlay
43:13
πŸ‘πŸΎ
Jenna Manchester
44:27
Inequality and transparency
Donald Smith
44:34
Unearned income taxed at lower rate than earned income.
Lisa Goldsmith
44:43
The tax burden needs to be redistributed
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
44:45
Washington State has no Income Tax
David Gordon
44:50
Don,you beat me to it.
Yvonne Brandon
44:58
They wealthy don't pay their fair share. They use the same streets and other infrastructure we use yet, we pay all the bills for this country.
Jeremy Chase
44:59
an elimination of the middle class
Robert Brown
45:02
The IRS does not have enough resources to go after tax cheats. They often pick on people who do not make enough.
Donald Smith
45:12
Lots of loopholes.
David Gordon
45:16
Capital gains taxed at a lower rate than people who work at McDonalds
Daniel Lewinski
45:24
minimum personal tax for the super wealthy and minimum corporate tax
Julie Martinson
45:25
I want those who earn more than 120,000/year to keep paying their percentage into Social Security. Eliminate the limit.
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
45:31
1) The tax burden falls primarily on wage earners, and the ultra-wealthy avoid paying taxes.
Bob Findlay
45:39
corporate taxes
Janina
45:40
Obviously the zero tax on the uber rich....
Dwight Rousu
45:43
I think chat icon disappears when you are made a host
Linda Brewster
45:44
depletion of the commons, plus excuse of not enough money to fund what the people need
Jackie Rivas
45:47
The wealthy buy our politicians.
Ken Dammand
45:51
Both the federal and the state tax systems should be crafted to eliminat the accrual of absurd levels of wealth. Massively progressive income tax and an upper limit on personal wealth are needed.
Rich Stevenson
45:51
Office holders bought by contributions to campaigns.
Robert Brown
46:01
Business owners seem to have access to the loopholes more than people who do W-2s.
Janina
46:03
Social Security tax should be added back on over a high income threshold
Jeremy Street
46:10
misunderstanding about state income tax
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
46:23
2) Washington state taxation is a regressive model taxing lower income wage earners unfairly
Jackie Rivas
46:33
Corporation write our laws.
Bob Findlay
47:25
Agreed @Melvin @Nancy I don't know enough about the federal system to effectively criticize however WA State's tax system is the most regressive in the nation, how does that make sense??
Norm Conrad
48:50
/-What is a fair tax rate for thieves?
Daniel Lewinski
49:24
fdr
Julie Martinson
49:30
FDR
Deborah Pedersen
49:39
FDR
Donald Smith
49:40
FDR
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
49:42
FDR
Donald Smith
50:41
What are Blue and MBS?
Bob Findlay
51:01
lincoln
Donald Smith
51:05
Teddy Roosevelt.
Linda Brewster
51:43
"We can either have democracy in this country or we can have great wealth concentrated in the hands of the few but we can't have both" Assoc Supreme Court Judge Louis Brandeis.
Linda Bock
52:16
I have used that quote often, Linda Brewster.
Daniel Lewinski
52:19
90%
David Gordon
52:21
90%
Deborah Pedersen
52:21
Highest: 70%
Donald Smith
52:23
90%
Norm Conrad
52:27
91%
Bob Findlay
52:27
70
Yvonne Brandon
52:29
90%
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
52:29
90%
Ken Dammand
52:33
93
Robert Brown
52:34
90%
Rich Stevenson
52:35
93
David Gordon
52:40
current is 36% ?
Daniel Lewinski
52:47
38%?
Robert Brown
52:58
38%
Daniel Lewinski
53:30
False
Yvonne Brandon
53:35
Nope!
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
53:37
False
Donald Smith
53:39
False. It rewards them.
Bob Findlay
53:40
slanderously flase
Rich Stevenson
53:42
False
Bob Findlay
54:08
true
Christy Bear
54:09
true
Daniel Lewinski
54:09
True
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
54:10
False
Yvonne Brandon
54:12
true
Julie Martinson
54:13
true
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
54:14
true
Rich Stevenson
54:16
True
Bob Findlay
54:32
>
Yvonne Brandon
54:33
Less
Christy Bear
54:33
less
Daniel Lewinski
54:34
Much less
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
54:35
Less
Daniel Lewinski
54:55
50%
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
55:00
50%
Rich Stevenson
55:04
50%
Vivian Korneliussen
55:12
75%
Julie Martinson
55:12
75%
Robert Brown
55:17
50%
David & Ruth Neal
55:28
75
Norm Conrad
55:28
50
Donald Smith
55:39
It's amazing that people vote for the GOP, given the GOP tax policies.
Bob Findlay
55:43
Bezos
Daniel Lewinski
55:46
Any of the Three Amigos
Yvonne Brandon
55:52
Jeff
Julie Martinson
55:59
bezos
Rich Stevenson
56:04
Bezos
David & Ruth Neal
56:05
any of the 3
Norm Conrad
56:08
Bozoz
Robert Brown
56:10
any of them
David & Ruth Neal
56:39
any of the 3
Rich Stevenson
56:45
Bezos
Robert Brown
56:46
Bezos
David & Ruth Neal
57:20
any of th e3
Ken Dammand
57:55
4
Christy Bear
57:57
4x
Daniel Lewinski
58:00
Four times as likely
Julie Martinson
58:03
four x
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
58:05
Twice
Yvonne Brandon
58:08
2X
Bob Findlay
58:25
at least πŸ™„
Rich Stevenson
58:41
Define psychopath!
David Gordon
59:16
thank you, rich. I was wondering myself.
Robert Brown
59:39
We must have progressive taxation. It is unconscionable how we tax in the state of Washington.
Donald Smith
01:00:49
Are William's slides available online?
David Gordon
01:02:47
if the cap gain tax succeeds, will we still be dead last among states?
Daniel Lewinski
01:02:49
According to US Legal: Psychopath is a person with a mental disorder characterized by an extremely antisocial personality that often leads to aggressive, perverted or criminal or amoral behavior without any empathy or remorse.
Bob Findlay
01:03:04
is that possible?
Bob Findlay
01:03:51
Looking at you Tim Eyeman
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:04:32
β€’ The New Corporation – Film Screening & Panel Discussion – May 9th @ 6:30 pm –https://meaningfulmovies.org/events/the-new-corporation/β€’ Running With My Girls – Film Screening & Panel Discussion – May 26th @ 6 pm PT – Register @ https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_bJh0GUlAR3-G8z0WV4NhOwβ€’ Suppressed and Sabotaged: The Fight to Vote – Film Screening & Panel Discussion – June 9th @ 6 pm PT – https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_t-6eJlOiR6Kdw7TqMzIruQ
Robert Brown
01:05:51
When we pay from investments, are we paying tax twice on this money? Please discuss.
Bob Findlay
01:07:27
Who was the Presidential candidate obsessed with "flat tax"?
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:07:42
What does B & O mean?
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:07:55
Business and operations tax
Robert Brown
01:08:07
Business and Occupation. But what is taxed is a question mark for me.
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:08:58
Yes, thanks Robert for that correction. Business & OCCUPATION, not operations.
Janina
01:08:58
We need low or zero taxes on low-income....lighten the load on middle incomes, then raise the rate on incomes over a higher income threshold. Tax the rich like during the Republican Eisenhower days!!!
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:09:03
This is interesting because Idaho's teacher's salary schedule is significantly lower than Washington's
Janina
01:09:57
None of this will matter if Republicans win the mid-terms.
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:10:05
Thank you for your work!
Bob Findlay
01:10:09
good point @Nancy
Donald Smith
01:10:21
Question: can a fair flat tax be crafted by exempting the first, say, $100,000 of income?
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:10:22
Decline to sign I-1929!
David Gordon
01:10:37
besides decline to sign, what else can we do?
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:11:15
What motivates out of state individuals (or PACs) to get involved in our state's tax reform?
David Gordon
01:11:44
also, Robert, the money that you put into the investment is not taxed. only the gain.
Janina
01:11:48
This is a great idea....a way to target the rich more specifically
Bob Findlay
01:13:52
as much sense as it's supposed to make because obfuscation is built in
Linda Brewster
01:14:07
Tax on profits in investments is based on the increase in value ---called the cost basis I believe.
Kate Butt
01:14:21
The Tax the Rich book explains how the rich are rich and CAPITAL GAINS, very clearly.
Arnold Byron
01:16:02
Property tax is a wealth tax. We pay property tax on the full value of the property every year. We pay taxes on the ame value year after year.
Bob Findlay
01:16:45
aka all about that bass, no treble
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:17:17
Sorry someone was pounding on my door.
Ken Dammand
01:19:06
The classical economists referred to capital gains and other investment income as "money made while you sleep." And they did not count is as part of GNP the way we do now.
Linda Brewster
01:19:36
initiative number again
Linda Brewster
01:19:39
/
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:19:46
I-1929
David Gordon
01:19:49
is there any organized opposition to the initiative that we could contribute to?
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:20:02
Please help us get to our Goal! Donate to FDFEF GiveBIG 2022 to help us fight big money– https://www.wagives.org/organization/fixdemocracyfirst
Daniel Lewinski
01:20:09
Another term for Capital gains is unearned income, typically for the idle rich.
Bob Findlay
01:20:10
good question @David
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:20:30
What Is Initiative 1929? - https://fusewashington.org/news/what-initiative-1929
Daniel Lewinski
01:20:31
They use it to buy politicians and judges
Yvonne Brandon
01:22:02
Grover Norquist!
Janina
01:22:02
It's completely embarrassing that we harbor the 2-3 richest men in the world
Janina
01:22:27
Obviously our tax structure is upside down when we allow this....
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:22:53
I think many Republicans believe they can achieve the "American dream" of getting rich, while not understanding how much the system is rigged against them
Jeremy Street
01:23:18
Glad Bezos ex-wife is giving so much money to educational institutions!
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:24:21
Why isn't Eyman in jail yet?
Bob Findlay
01:24:54
Yes Nancy, lol Eyemanized!!! πŸ˜‚πŸ€£
Linda Brewster
01:25:32
Or at least different requirements for initiatives using paid signature gatherers....
David & Ruth Neal
01:26:23
Nancy I agree Eyeman is horrible and why is he still around?
Janina
01:26:23
Maybe I missed something in the conversation....why hasn't our Democratic legislature changed the Eyman initiative laws
Donald Smith
01:26:29
Why was the legislature unable to revoke the advisory votes this year?
David Gordon
01:27:11
advisory votes are annoying, but have no effect so what is the problem?
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:27:53
They are expensive to put on the ballot.
Donald Smith
01:28:11
The advisory votes are propaganda at the start of he ballot.
Daniel Lewinski
01:28:16
And Advisory votes are all out of context.
Linda Brewster
01:28:19
plus they confuse folks and lead them to believe they do not know enough to actually vote.
Bob Findlay
01:28:23
the potential for harm is waaaaaaaayyyy beyond taxes
Donald Smith
01:28:35
Why was the legislature unable to revoke the advisory votes this year?
Daniel Lewinski
01:28:36
I elect our legislators to understand the big picture that I don't have
Bob Findlay
01:30:13
"advisory votes" can be used/abused/weaponized against anyone or anything
David Gordon
01:30:17
Thanks for your work, Patty!!!
David & Ruth Neal
01:30:54
Glenn what you are saying is wonderful Thank you for clarifying so well. I am very frustrated with greedy Rich folks1
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:32:03
Personally, I want billionaires abolished. After anyone "earnes" $999,999,999, they should be taxed at 100%. They can live in luxury, or even be a generous philanthropist. No one needs a billion dollars.
Jeremy Street
01:32:14
So nice to meet Patty here. This report is absolutely amazing.!
Glenn Dreyfuss
01:32:54
Thank you, David & Ruth
Jeremy Street
01:34:59
See 60 minutes on Geel, Belgium and how they take care of their people.
Nancy Sheng Lummi/Bellingham
01:35:45
When I moved to WA state, I found the advisory votes confusing, and I am an educated person!
Bob Findlay
01:37:13
Need to take the gloves off
David & Ruth Neal
01:39:27
CONGRESWOMAN IN MICHIGAN truly was awesome. I am tired that mud slinging goes against Dems but we allow horrible actions and say nothing.
Daniel Lewinski
01:40:03
Absolutely need the stories.
Donald Smith
01:41:04
Thank you, Senator.
Bob Findlay
01:41:14
Thank You Senator Kuderer & previous speaker!
Christy Bear
01:41:15
Thank you, Patty!!
Melvin Mackey (Sqababsh Land)
01:41:20
Thank you Patty Kuderer
Linda Bock
01:41:38
Excellent program, tonight....many thanks to all the presenters....
Lin Crowley
01:41:39
Thank you, Senator, and for continuing standing up for us!
Patty Kuderer
01:41:44
Have to run, thank you everyone!!
Kate Butt
01:42:48
I already have one. SPIN AGAIN!!!!
Janina
01:43:13
Wow, thanks!!!
Donald Smith
01:43:58
Yay
David & Ruth Neal
01:43:59
I know a single Mom working 3 jobs but not enough for her landlord to raise her rent to kick her out with her 3 children??? why is that allowed to happen without improvement in property????
Bob Findlay
01:44:49
Sorry everyone, Mike Pillow Guy just filled a lawsuit saying this raffle rigged, no one is getting any books πŸ˜ͺ
Christy Bear
01:45:06
Thank you, Bud!
Janina
01:45:13
Woo Hoo!!
Yvonne Brandon
01:45:21
Great job, Bud!
Daniel Lewinski
01:45:24
Thank you Bud!!!
Kate Butt
01:45:28
Thank you Bud!!
Cindy Black, Fix Democracy First
01:45:28
β€’ FDFEF GiveBIG 2022 – https://www.wagives.org/organization/fixdemocracyfirst
Julie Martinson
01:45:30
Thank you to Patty !!!!
David & Ruth Neal
01:45:50
Thank you for the book & today's lecture!
Keitha Bryson
01:45:50
Great program!