And Motion maker and Sconed please?

Miho seconded

Thanks...made by Terrence?

no, I think it was someone else, but I don't remember who

Lynda Valencia ASNC

City Clerk's NC Elections website: https://clerk.lacity.org/clerk-services/elections/nc-elections

https://clkrep.lacity.org/election/2023_NC_Election_Timeline.pdf

Good Morning everyone 👋🏼

It is good to see you all attending today.

Is Mr Gomes attending ?

From South Robertson NC.

I am here Lionel.

Handbill law: https://codelibrary.amlegal.com/codes/los_angeles/latest/lamc/0-0-0-128095

See the Candidate guideliens for detaails

FYI - there are at least 6 to 8 people running for CD 6

I’m keeping track of who is running and what their policy positions are

🙂

Isn't that a question for DONE, not the Clerk?

Recently, there has been advertising for the NC system (not the election though) on the LADOT shuttles I have seen in two languages with a QR codes

Terrance, I don't seem to have the "hand raise" function. If I can, I would like to ask a question.

It is either under reactions or you do not have the latest Zoom version. Will call on you.

Regarding phony CIS voters who don’t have a brick and mortar address: How about publishing the names of the organizations prior to the election so that anybody who wishes to check on addresses and then challenge the voters could do so

can you put a link to the ordinance about brick and mortar requirement? would that include those folks running for non-profit seat?

Also, how many NC's can an unhoused person vote and/or serve?

I would assume as many as they qualify to serve on and win?

Someone could work/worship etc in different places

Good question Mr Gomes

City is DISCRIMINATING intentionallhy!!!

👏

Bass's inauguration is outside.

My belief is that the city policy is DEPENDENT of the COUNTY level of emergency. If county declares and end to the pandemic, we all go back to meting in person.

Neighborhood Council have no authority to "VET" candidates.

I would be so freaked out if I filed to run and someone I didn’t know showed up at my door

I don't think the NCs have candidate addresses.

There is an inherent conflict of interest in having incumbents " vet" applicants to take their seats

Regarding elections, I feel strongly that we should keep focus on CD 6 Special Election. There are people who are already mobilizing. As a CD 6 constituent, we have to take the lead and take charge. Just saying.

We will not driving around vetting candidates.

But anybody can challenge a candidate’s qualifications but winning would require evidence such as the fact that there is only a PO box

Incumbents vet candidates all the time when we have to fill an open seat and no one complains.

Those are people who submit themselves to the nc themselves to be vetted tho. An election is a different process. They are not submitting themselves to the nc members for approval.

During the NC Elections, it is the responsibility of the City Clerk to certify candidates. However, if there is anything that appears questionable, please let them know right away. It has happened during past election cycles that a mistake or oversight did occur and the City Clerk took corrective action, but not always.

Right Terrence, we vet applicants for open seats outside the NC election cycle.

From my recollection, NCs don't even get the email addresses of candidates during the election cycle, due to privacy concerns

Maybe my problem is with the word "vet" (as in advice and consent by the US Senate). What NCs do when they appoint candidates is to verify the documents that justify the stakeholdership, the same as the City Clerk does for those who register with the Clerk. The Clerk has the autority by ordinance to conduct NC elections, a nd therefore to be the party that verifies the stake of candidates. The NC does NOT have a legal role in the verification of stakeholdership during the Clerk-run election.

The NC does so that the candidates can be invited to forums.

I think there were complaints last cycle that forums were hard to hold because contact info was not given

Yes I remember most were reachable via social media but some couldn’t be found at ll

I think the email stance is changing this cycle tho

The invitations to candidate forums are based onj the candidacy AS DETERMINED BY THE CITY CLERK. There is no independent authority on the NC to verify the stakeholder documents during a Clerk-run election. During the IEA-run elections that you and I ran, it was OUR responsibility (not the NC) to verify candidates.

Right Jennifer. Once the election is certified, we receive the contact information and invite all newly elected and re-elected board members to a meet and greet.

Congrats Gina

If a NC finds that a candidate for an election is not qualified, they need to notify the City Clerk so action can be taken. I didn't mean to imply that the NC had the power to remove a candidate.

The BONC seat that just opened is the one in West Los Angeles Area, previously held by Eli Lipmen

As a woman if a man I didn’t know showed up to my door demanding to know if I lived there I would be terrified. And given that the city doesn’t give things like addresses in cpra how we’re things such as addresses obtained?

To call-in user 2, it will be hard for DONE to applaud an NC for its work with non-city agencies, based partlhy of the City Attorney's DIS-empowering opinion that the NC has no authority as a city agency to do that. This is one of the issues we need to address with our new City Attorney. NCs cannot do their work without interfacing with other agencies. For example, the COUNTY runs health, not the city.

Many people abuse CPRA. I know some who use it to publicly shame and dox other individuals. The city should do a better job of redacting sensitive info like email and phone and names

Jamiey@resedacouncil.org

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To constructively address your concerns about personal information, BOARD MEMBERS are public officials. Our NAMES and our PUBLIC CONTACT EMAIL are not "personal information". No one who is running as a candidate should use their PERSONAL email for city business. All candidates need to understand this and create a"business" email for their city work.

My concern was the point made about driving to peoples homes

The median household income in Boyle Heights, a working-class Latino neighborhood in De León's district, is about $45,000 with a quarter of its residents living below the poverty line. And that’s with two or more wage earners often juggling two and three jobs.If De León manages to last through the remaining years of his term, taxpayers will be paying him about $568,000 in combined salary and pension.

What is the council file number for the resignations of Cedillo, DeLeon and Martinez?

I misspoke. To date we have checked only business addresses. No home doors were knocked on.

My point of order was that the motion was out of order

YES! DONE has NO ROLE in the elections of any independent NC alliance.

Who is on the LANCC election committee?

@Sharon, I believe it is David Ubersax, Miho Miari, and Adriana de la Cruz

David Rockello, not me, though I've shared some Roster info

We had a similar conversation with Raquel Beltran when LANCC WG4CC met with her. The GM clearly backed off on interfering with LANCC busines itself. Rather, she offered to provide input on issues for which we are (independently) considering a recommendation.

oops Rockello, sorry

David Uebersax talking about the LANCC elections not NC election?

Sharon, this whole discussion is about gthe LANCC election.

@Sharon, I made a mistake, it is David Rockello

I would like to speak

this is miho

I would like to speak to clarify

We should be very clear that DONE should not be involved in our election process, absent some indication that we are running an undemocratic process.

That is, Freddy need to NOT be telling the LANCC committee what to do.

I do not believe that the LANCC Election Committee has held any meetings....

I believe that we should not permit our election committee to meet with DONE.

I think we may need a new Elections Chair

where are you getting your information Lydia?

there has been no Elections Committee meeting to my knowledge

Lydia got her information from a meeting with Raquel

Lydia is a little over-worried, I think. ThAt was the statement the GM backed off on. She was very clear that she only offered her input if asked.

DONE was invited.

but Raquel has not told us that officially

I think Lydia's concerns may be premature

I am aware of that

at Brandi

Saturday mornings are very difficult for working parents

Miho, the concern is to create a presumption of DONE being the Mother in a "Mother may I?" game for alliances. This is about not setting thiat prfecedent.

I second

Plus the 80 20 rule

I would ask that the votes be listed in the chat and please list the names of the Elections Committee here

like to make an amendment to add the formation

of a new election committee

I did not accept the amendment that Lydia is suggesting

it is not up to you to accept

Lydia, I think that is separate issue. It can be dealt with after we vote on a postponement.

Replacing the committee can be another motion to follow this one

I have a comment but I don't know how to unmute via zoom on the phone

Text of amendment?

please put the motion in the chat so I can see the motion

I cannot unmute

So David, we put the motion down as Miho's

Each council gets one vote; any number of people can attend and participate

Can we postpone this to the end of meeting? This motion is not even on the agenda....

please put the motion in the chat

I agree with Glenn, and that those not called on should be muted

No Glenn.

What about the timeline for new election committee meetings?

this does not need to be on the agenda

***this = motion

those are two separate motions, postponing elections and new committteee

We can only have a 2nd amendment, nogt a 3rd.

The agenda item is "LANCC Elections Update" and there has been no notice to the NCs of such action.....

@Sharon, I do not know why we are not meeting. I would like to be the Elections Committee chair and I will make sure we meet

I will move to replace the election committee should this motion pass

When did we meet?

We have no Brown Act requirement to have actions pre-described in our agendas. The cutrrent motion is on the subject that IS ion the agenda.

I have my hand raised. please umute me

Tony is right

I think Glenn was talking about a LANCC committee that met for another agenda item.

I have my hand raised

First election is 3/26

I'm confused. Glenn says there is a committee that is meeting. Miho says the elections committee is not meeting. I can't figure out what is what.

Please put the motion in the chat

Glenn is talking about a different committee that is later on the agenda

I am referring to the LANCC Working Group for Constructive Change, which meets twice a month

I think that is the meeting that meets on Sunday

There are different committees

verbal roll call vote.

it is a problem that the committee that did their work might not have time to present because we are spending so much time on a committee that did not

what is the motiom?

I need to see it

I have a disab

yrs

Kay, I think Glenn is referrfing to our WG4CC committee that DID meet with GM Beltran, and he would like to move forward to hear that report from Liz.

The motion is for the March amendment.

What committee met and what committee did not meet? I don't understand. Do we have 2 election committees?

yes hcnnc

@tony, thank you.

Can you please state which NC voted how??

The LANCC Working group met

and for an ADA request, write in the chat the motion we are voting for

The Election Committee is separate

We have one election committee that did not meet. We have a Working Group for Constructive Change that IS meeting and hjas a report to make.

I cannot see the screen

Jennifer DeVore hancockpark@greaterwilshire.org GWNC official LANCC rep

or jendevore@gmail.com

I have my hand raised

who is on the Elections Committee

my hand is raised

Aren't you on the committee, Miho?

what us the motion

For the record, I am not an assigned voting member for my svanx

Lionel you can not vote or make motions.

The motion is to postpone the LANCC election to March 2023.

This going back an forth is exactly why giving up three hours on a Saturday for a volunteer role, is difficult for people who have busy lives. As a suggestion, have two comments per person so these items don't drag on.

I understand Lydia. Thanks

Thanks

Yes, Miho is on the Election Committee

I vote yes

HCNNC

please list the vote here

I believe it was stated earlier that the election c committee is David Rockello, Miho Miari, and Adriana de la Cruz

are there more people on the Elections Committee

Lionel you can ask your board to agendize you as the LANCC REP

If the committee is not meeting, it is not functional.

In my humble opinion, and in opposition to Bo's love of Roberts Rules, I think this whole meeting went downhill when we began to run b y his beloved Roberts Rules.

I would like to be the Elections Chair

The motion is to replace the election committee for the March 2023 LANCC election.

this is such bs

discriminatory

I just want people who will do the work

I should not be blamed because David refuses to hold meetings

Can we please mute those that do not have floor?

It is adverse to yopur personal interest in being on the committee. That is not that same as 'discriminatory', sadly.

I will volunteer to be on the Election Committee

To some extent, Miho, you are now azssociated with a large amount of meeting dysfunction that began with your complaints. That is the basis for people wanting a whiole new cast of characters involved.

Hello everyone,I have to drop off the meeting as much as I would like to stay longer: this is an exciting meeting!! My batter is low.Keep me up to date, Mr Gomes and Mr Glenn Bailey

Any responsible member will follow up with chair and other members regarding meetings. That is what I do. No need to point finger

Battery * is low

The "current LANCC leadership" has NOT been involved with the work of the Election Committee (except for Adriana)

Please mute yourself until called upon by chair!

I do need caption

aren't there time limits on how long people can speak on any motion?

what is the motion?

I am on the phone

Safe and Happy Holidays to all and Happy New Year 2023, I'm out!

Confirm the captions

The motion is to replace the election committee. I didn’t get all the names.

zoom I'd different on the phone and on a laptop/desk top

From above: The motion is to replace the election committee for the March 2023 LANCC election.

Live transcription and close captions

no hcnnc

but we should add people to the committee

I would like to replace the chair since he is not meeting

if Miho was a member for a committee that never met she is responsible for reporting the lack of meeting to the entire LAANC group

Adriana is on the current LANCC leadership, Glenn

I have reported thar

Please don’t argue. Let us take a big breath and recollection our thoughts

Recollect *

@Jon

People are attacking me.

16-1-1

which NCs voted how?

@Miho - I clearly noted Adriana in that regard

I would like to be on the Elections Committee again.

The whole issue is now sop toxi thagt we have no volunteers

so txic

so toxic

Exactly because people do

can we table until the end of the meeting

would be nice to move on to DONE presentation on elections. seems much more important.

We have one hour left to finish our agenda

Like I have to go

But I really wanted to speak on 21-0407

We have lost Commissioner Shaffer and his BONC update....

I just want to say that if you ask for volunteers for the committee, Miho has every right to volunteer, like it or not.

I have worked with Miho on a few committees and she is very helpful on committees.

Bye everyoneMerry Christmas

Logging offf

Stay safe

Let us have peace

EVERYONE MUTE YOURSELF NOW!!!!!!!

I suggest that anyone interested in serving on the LANCC Election Committee post a message to Chat and/or email LANCC@EmpowerLA.org

Mihomade it very clear and stated she wants new Leadership. That is not a neutral position which is what is needed on an Election Committee

I have been on a committee with Miho and found the opposite to be true. She was very disruptive on the committee and hindered us getting our work done.

I am interested to volunteer on the election commitee

The report was NOT "about the election" The report was on a specific dagta requesgt from the Rodriguez motion, which asked for information on board seat.

Glenn is voicing the direction I think is most effective, which is to address the Rodriguez allegatios directly, rather than trying to do so by forcing DONE to revise its report again and again.

Tony is there any mistake you won’t defend? It’s bad math which misleads the council in terms of decision making. No one should defend that.

I am for effective politics. I appreciate your diligence in fopcusing on details of a probab ly dead report.

Jamie your work is important

Motion to invite Karen Bass to present to LANCC as well as elected officials and all members of City Council, prioritizing the Mayor

Yes

Motion to authorize the WG to set up a meeting with APHEN in its new incarnation to discuss NC concerns and needs; request that NCs submit concerns to LANCC to prioritize issues

We have meetings thaty are open to all L:ANCC members. We want input from mm bers and others on issues to bring up, as describe in the motion.

@Jennifer Goodie, I don't know what Committee you are referring to as I do not even know who you are. I will say that I generally have a different view on things and I think opposing voices should be encouraged and not silenced by bullying

Our only role is to brfing concerns to the CC committee, not to propose solution.

no

@Tony, unfortunately when we oppose the majority we are seen as "disruptive". That may be while only a 1/4 of NCs are represented here

@Miho I am not surprised as you seem to get committee meetings confused, but you initially were part of the committee that is presenting right now

Motion to request DONE assist in expediting the following as drawn from the provisions of the 2018 David Ryu motion:• developing and continually updating point of contact lists for key city departments and agencies, including DCP, DOT, Public Works’ Bureaus, Aging, Disability, HCID, DCA, LADWP, Port, Airport, Cannabis Regulation, Emergency Management, Animal Services, LAPD, LAFD, Recreation and Parks, Zoo, Finance, Library, Economic and Workforce Development, as well as the Council District offices, Councilmembers’ and the Mayor’s office, the Budget Advocates, and BIDs, with assistance from those listed departments and agencies, and share those lists with Neighborhood Councils

Yes, but I felt my views and voice was being attacked because I held a different view @Jennifer

Your viewpoint wasn't the issue. Your refusal to adhere to rules of order, interjecting without being recognized, monopolizing the floor, etc were the issue

Just like today

• educating key personnel at those entities on the purpose and mission of Neighborhood Councils; and ensuring liaisons and other points of contacts are knowledgeable and respectful of the NC system and develop fruitful ways to assist and collaborate with Neighborhood Council members• developing a process, with the assistance of GSD, the LAPL, the City Clerk and the LAUSD, to assist Neighborhood Councils with accessing shared space in facilities throughout the City• generating from the Neighborhood Councils a compendium of best practices to be posted (without editing) on the DONE website and shared with all Neighborhood Councils, including ‘how-to guides’ for accomplishing NC functions'

I am not confused by what Committees that I am on. @Jennifer

Many of us have different opinions but we do not attack others when we don't get our way.

Honestly, Mho, today was not About 'opposing the majority', in my opinion. Rather, it was a reaction to about 30 minute of chaos which began with your complaint about perceived exclusion from election committee meetings. That was 40 peo0ple is room X 30 min = 20 person-hours of wasted time. The room was not hostile you your proposal (postponement passed), but you were associated in the minds of many with that lost 20 person hours.

@Jennifer, that is your opinion and I am entitled to mine. I would appreciate that you do not use a public forum to put someone down. That does not adhere to the Code of Conduct

That's your opinion

Lydia, what room did you have at North Valley City Hall?

We had an office and storage

I suggest including the Council File number in the motion: 18-0467 (motion states 2018 David Ryu motion)

Saw motion 12/02/22 where she is bringing in non-profit to use I think room 203?

@Tony. I understand and I apologize. However I was associated with the Elections Committee not meeting and therefore got ousted from the Elections Committee. I should not be blamed for not meeting and I updated the LANCC about the proposed meeting with DONE. I think I am doing the best that I can as an Elections Committee. To Lydia's comment about wanting new leadership I simply meant we need to have an election that is transparent and inclusive and that all NCs who have a voting member can vote

I have great photos of full rooms packed with stakeholders and the STNC office was a model for other NCs

Thanks Glenn, adding CF as note

My personal view is that the Rodriguez motion was mainly directed at a single NC she dislikes. OUR problem is that it could be a ticking time bomb if someone else on the CC took an interest in the motion and moved it forward. We want to state affirmatively our charter right to determine to compositipon of our own boards.

CF 18-0467

CM Rodriguez listens only to her contacts and takes their positions that have negatively impacted the STNC and the lives of many great volunteers. You try to get your foot in the door and your foot is crushed.

I have gotten lost. Are we talking about both 21-0407 AND the underlying 2018 motion? Or?

Or something else?

I'll share screen

Thye Rodriguez motion was discussed earlier. That is a "ticking time bomb". This is about the older Ryu motion and some of its proposals that were never acted on by the CC.

Does anyone know if the Congress Planning Committee is meeting at 1:30 p.m. this afternoon as stated on the Congress website? Several of us did received NO meeting notice....

It is not. Daniel is thinking about next sweek.

Thanks

Tony may be correct about the motives of the city council member, but what to do about that is not being addressed here. Starting a recall is one such approach, however unlikely the outcome would be. Or your neighborhood council could schedule hearings as to the behavior of the council member and do report cards on her actions

15-0-0

Somebody could write an article for City Watch.

Not my CD Bob, thankfully. MY councilmember recen tly resigned. :))

a. The budget requests have been published https://lamayor.org/budget-resources

The fiduciary responsibility of DONE is to direct he contributed NC funds to the purpose for which the NC voted them. Ordinance should NOT give DONE the power to CHSNE to purpose for which the NC voted the money.

Thank you Tony!

to CHANGE

CF 11-1020-S3

Since the Congress Planning Committee is NOT meeting this afternoon, why does its website indicate otherwise? And why was no one notified of the change???

Motion to object to codifying an instruction to DONE in the admin code.

It could be as simple as this or it can be more if someone wants to add to it.

Motion to object to codifying an instruction to DONE in the admin code in CF 11-1020-S3

DONE has the power to make NC rules and regs under The Plan. Does not need an admin code to do that. However its rules probably cannot be to change the purpose for which fiduciary funds were contributed.

Motion to object to the addition of Section 5.517(c) to the City of Los Angeles administration code: The motion is to replace the election committee for the March 2023 LANCC election.

oop

hold on

Motion to object to the addition of Section 5.517(c) to the City of Los Angeles administration code

Sec. 2. Subsection (c) is added to Section 5.517 of Chapter 117, Division 5 of the Los Angeles Administrative Code to read as follows:(c) The Department shall promulgate procedures, rules, and regulations, as well as issue any directives necessary for the administration of the Department Fund and the appropriation of funds therefrom for the Congress of Neighborhoods and budget advocacy, in conformity with Section 909 of the Los Angeles City Charter, which allows certified Neighborhood Councils to present annual City budget priorities to the Mayor and City Council.

Motion to oppose the addition of the following to the City of Los Angeles Administration Code: Sec. 2. Subsection (c) is added to Section 5.517 of Chapter 117, Division 5 of the Los Angeles Administrative Code to read as follows:(c) The Department shall promulgate procedures, rules, and regulations, as well as issue any directives necessary for the administration of the Department Fund and the appropriation of funds therefrom for the Congress of Neighborhoods and budget advocacy, in conformity with Section 909 of the Los Angeles City Charter, which allows certified Neighborhood Councils to present annual City budget priorities to the Mayor and City Council.

abstain

14-0 and 1 abstain

What is the CF num ber that proposes the ASdmin Coder change?

11-1020-S3

Thank you Kay

here's the second FSR https://cityclerk.lacity.org/lacityclerkconnect/index.cfm?fa=ccfi.viewrecord&cfnumber=22-0600-S99

Thank you for the clarification that it was a staffing issue and not incompetance

There should also be a THIRD retained fund at DONE, which was for individual NC "credits". One example is a credit we got at North Hills East NC from a civic improvement contractor who we forced to give back money for non-performance. While I have no hope that DONE can still find that money, DONE should still have the FUND for that purpose.

Tony, shouldn't that be with the Clerk?

The problem with what Glenn is discussion is the inability of Congress to RECRUIT NEW PARTICIPANTS if we do not do better outreach about meetings. January may be too early to select a new Planning Committee, given that silence to the NC community.

Just as an FYI, UNNC just purchased a second account direct from Zoom for our committees -- expense was approved.

Argentina vs Australia began an hour into this meeting and has finished before this meeting ended. Arg 2 Aus 1

Jennifer, since I never heard of it being transferred, I am guessing that it was not. The fund I am talking about is kind of like the Council Office "slush fund" account for local services. I can't imagine DONE giving that up.

oh, interesting

Pizza! That is our "national food" in the Latino NE Valley!

Jennifer, where is your snow day?

Mascot Park

are you guys having one? My understanding is all the CD10 NCs are having one because Hutt is kissing our butts

Valley Alliance of NCs February 9, 2023 will feature new City Attorney Hydee Feldstein Soto

We don't really have parks, Mascot is basically a traffic triangle, but we're still excited to bring some fun to the neighborhood

Unless it is a part of the park event today at Benny Potter...I don't think there is a snow day within UNNC. None that we have been informed about. There is an event in Leimert Park, Empowerment Congress West

You're partially in CD10, right?

UNNC is completely within CD10. If you were asking me

Snow Day!!!! December 18th, 2022 Reynier Park 2803 Reynier Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90034 All are invited.

Ours is 9-12pm

Try 6 weeks where it never goes above 10 degrees

9am-12pm

So weird, I thought they were doing it with all the CD10 NCs

10:30AM