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How to Use Evidence in Policymaking – A Crash Course - Shared screen with speaker view
Lisa Witter
06:49
Welcome everyone! Lisa Witter here from Apolitical. Can everyone introduce themselves as you join (in the chat)?
Lisa Witter
06:55
Lisa Witter, Apolitical, Berlin
Emily
08:41
Hi I'm Emily from Australian Bureau of Statistics - from Canberra Australia.
Apolitical
10:29
Welcome everyone! It’s great to have you. As you join, can you please introduce yourself (in the chat)?
Ellen Paxton
15:16
Ellen here from Melbourne. I am a librarian with the Victorian Government Library Service.
Sonia
15:33
Hi I'm Sonia, policy officer with QLD department of agriculture and fisheries
Alycia Ashcroft
15:43
Hello I am Alycia - Neighbourhood Justice Centre, part of Court Services Victoria. But I am hiding out in Sydney while Melbourne is in lockdown.
Kendall
15:45
Hello all - Kendall here. I am without a camera today but happy to be here from Western Australia. Chief Nursing and Midwifery Office
Kim Tapscott
15:46
Hi there. Policy officer from Victorian Department of Health and Human Services
Gillian-Kingston Council
15:50
Hi everyone, I am Gillian Turnbull from Kingston City Council in a social policy role.
Josie Sowter
15:51
Hi All, Josie from Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (Victoria)
mzpign
15:52
Melissa from Brisbane, Queensland Treasury.
G F
15:54
Gemma from Melbourne, Project Manager in Victorian Agency for Health Information.
Lynette
15:54
Lynette Chave - Animal Welfare - NSW Department of Primary Industries - Sydney Australia
Galaxy Tab A (2018, 10.5)
15:55
Hi Angela and Amanda from services australia
Libby
15:57
Libby from Canberra. Human Centred Design Academy Lead at BizLab in the Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources
carmel
16:00
Hi Carmel here from Adoption Victoria at Department of Justice
Christiane Aigner
16:03
Hi. Christiane from Department of Industry.
protiti.chatterjee
16:06
Protiti from Australian National Maritime Museum. Agency based in Sydney, I work from Melbourne.
Sarah Stanbury
16:07
Hi everyone, Policy Officer for the NSW Department of Primary Industries- Animal Welfare team
Jennefer Mardon
16:08
Jennefer from Department of Local Government, Racing and Multicultural Affairs in Queensland
Xander
16:10
Xander from Public Record Office Victoria
Nicole
16:10
Hello! Nicole from the Top End of Australia, the small city of Darwin, Northern Territory. Australian Bureau of Statistics working with the NT Government
Lisa
16:10
Lisa from Canberra - Policy at the Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources Canberra
Megan
16:11
Megan, Department of Education, Melbourne
Delvene Ahn
16:11
Hello, Delvene from NSW Dept of Education
Tonnia
16:12
Tonnia in Sydney Program Designer from AusIndustry
Razia Zariff
16:13
Razia here from Adelaide. I am a Senior Scientific Officer at SA Health
Louise Fisher
16:14
Louise FisherChief External Funding CoordinatorCentral Coast Council
Susannah
16:16
Susannah, from Corrections Victoria
Sean Riordan
16:17
Hi from Health Support Qld. Department of Health Qld
Jeff’s iPhone
16:18
hi Jeff Dept Agriculture Water & Environment in Canberra
Rachel Barley
16:21
QLD Dept NAtural Resources Mines and Energy
Patricia Palman
16:23
hi Patricia from Dept of Education and Training Vic
Meg Gooley
16:24
Hi, I'm Meg, Senior Data Analyst from NSW Gov Early Childhood Education
Meredene Hill
16:24
Hi I’m Meredene, Manager, Qld Department of Education International.
Sarah
16:26
Hi Sarah here from Department of Primary Industries
Andrew Forbes
16:26
Andrew from NSW Dept of Education, Early Childhood
Yvette Peterson
16:27
Hi I'm Yvette, Western Australia (Department of Local Government, Sport and Cultural Industries)
Rose Boreland
16:31
Hi Rose from Corrections Victoria
Johanna Verberne
16:35
Johanna from TAFE Strategy at Victorian Department of Education and Training
Ophelia Rubinich
16:36
Hi. Ophelia and anthropologist from AIATSIS in Canberra
Nys Henry
16:40
Hi all, Nyssa here Chief Scientific Officer, Office of the Great Barrier Reef, Qld Dept Environment and Science
WJFBEL
16:42
Hi all. Jordan from the SA Department for Child Protection.
Michael
16:45
Hi all happy Thursday apologies I don't have a camera. Michael here, I am an Economist at Dept of Jobs, Precincts and Regions - Victoria
Freya
16:47
Hi - Freya here Dept of Industry Science Energy and Resources
Sarah Gowty
16:57
Sarah and Alex from Department of Infrastructure
betelgeuse
17:05
Hi, Cass from Government Research and Information Library, Brisbane
Liz.Toohey
17:38
Hi, Liz Toohey and Loren Bebich from Department of Fire and Emergency Services WA
Jovena Ling
17:41
Hi Jovena Librarian Brisbane
Daniel Gray
17:46
Hi all, Daniel here from ANZSOG (The Australia and New Zealand School of Government)
Katherine
17:48
Hello. I am Katherine from a local government in Queensland.
Giulia A.
18:05
Hello I am Giulia from DELWP Victoria
Janene Flick
18:12
Hi Janene here, Senior Strategic Environmental Planner Central Coast Council
lsun2105
18:14
Hi, I am Lalitha Sundaresan from DHHS
Gillian-Kingston Council
18:20
Program decision-making
Jia
18:21
Reform works
Siobhán
18:21
Hi everyone, Siobhan here. Engagement Officer from City Renewal Authority (ACT)
samara.mcilroy
18:22
I am Samara from Tasmania,
Kim Tapscott
18:22
Budget bids
Louise Fisher
18:23
Government Funding
Chris S.
18:25
Investment decisions.
Optical Astronomy
18:27
Hi everyone. Andrew from DISER in Canberra
Gill Hay
18:27
Hi I'm Gill from NSW DPI
Sean Riordan
18:28
Influence decision amkers
Nicole
18:28
grants
Jeff’s iPhone
18:29
decision making
Barnaby Waights
18:30
User need
Daniel Gray
18:30
Regulation
Lovelle
18:30
Reform
Wendy Fardon
18:30
Resource allocation
Katy - Policy Officer - Adelaide
18:30
Program reform
lsun2105
18:31
Policy decisions
carmel
18:31
practice policy guidelines
Alycia Ashcroft
18:32
program decision making and reform policies
G F
18:32
Decision making re budgets
Tonnia
18:32
grant funding
Anne Gordon
18:32
Anne Gordon, Education Qld - investment decisions
Freya
18:33
policy development
Brittany Watt
18:34
Brittany from Skilled and Business Migration, Vic Gov
Megan
18:35
Policy development briefings
Yvette Peterson
18:35
decision making
Sarah
18:35
Decision making - leg amendments
Gill Hay
18:36
Behavioural change
Natasha
18:36
Program development
Lynette
18:38
Animal Welfare
Jennefer Mardon
18:38
Consultations
Josie Sowter
18:38
Grants
Jack Hayes
18:39
Jack Hayes, Department of Industry, Science, Energy and Resources. Policy design
Anika Finnerty
18:39
policy decision making
AbigailE
18:39
cost benefit analysis
Narina Dahms
18:39
problem definition
AJ
18:40
program review
AAU
18:40
Health policy
Sam Ma Chong
18:40
Hello, Sam here from Sydney AU - policy decision making
Alex Kennedy
18:40
Policy making
Kendall
18:40
implementation of new models
Rachel Barley
18:40
policy development and reviews of regulation
Siobhán
18:41
community input to infrastructure projects
Marlene
18:43
decision making
kdbigg
18:43
Policy decisions
Steve J
18:43
Program design
Patricia Palman
18:43
better program monintoring/management
Xander
18:44
digital transition and Microsoft 365
Nicola H
18:44
Influencing senior leaders
mzpign
18:44
legislative reforms
Libby
18:45
Influence decision makers
Nicola Menda
18:46
business process and innovation
Matthew Crane
18:47
Hi Matthew Crane from NSW DPI
Sarah Gowty
18:47
Decision making
Meredene Hill
18:48
To support continuous improvement
Optical Astronomy
18:48
Influence policy processes
Rachel Nash
18:48
Rachel Nash, NSW department of Premier & Cabinet. Evidence based projects/initiatives
Lisa
18:49
refinement of policies and regulations
Jan
18:50
Budget decisions
Johanna Verberne
18:51
Policy settings
Janine
18:54
Janine. Biosecurity Queensland. Climate change!
Rose Boreland
18:54
program design and reform
nigelm
19:01
Hi Nigel from Tas Justice here - better choice of business systems
AAU
19:02
Annee Victorian State Government
Nys Henry
19:04
regulations
protiti.chatterjee
19:05
Policy making - keeping flexibility and ever changing external factors
Andrew Forbes
19:14
How to target funding
Unofficial Laptop
19:37
Helen from Public Sector Innovation Network. Behavioural change
Angie Good
20:11
Angie Good from Questacon - the National Science and Technology Centre
Jannene Geoghegan
20:32
Jannene NSW Government, Animal Welfare policy
AbigailE
23:05
Abigail Elliott Victorian Electoral Commission, Education and Inclusion
Apolitical
24:16
https://apolitical.co/evidence-boot-camp/
Katy - Policy Officer - Adelaide
24:16
Katy Haynes from SA GovernmentConcessions and Support Services
Emily Haddow
24:21
Hi everyone Emily Haddow, Corrections Victoria, Dept.of Justice & Regulation
Apolitical
25:26
What is your experience of using evidence in policymaking, if any?A I’m confident that I use evidence in policymakingB I’ve tried but found it’s really challengingC I’m interested but I don’t understand itD I’m sceptical about itE Something else (please share on the chat!)
Johanna Verberne
25:28
Lack of data/evidence
Hong-Yi
25:32
D
Meg Gooley
25:34
I use it, but I would like more confidence in building an evidence base.
PP
25:45
A
Bartley Bauer
25:46
C
Joanne Gardner
25:53
B
Grace
25:55
C
Steve J
26:05
B
Rachel Barley
26:08
1. Obtaining data
Natasha
26:16
I'm confident in using it but I'm not sure that others I work with value its importance as much
Kim Tapscott
26:17
Resources and funding to conduct evaluations
Sarah
26:18
limitations in obtaining the data
Xander
26:19
It can be difficult to get good quality evidence
Jo-Anne
26:20
Hard to find the data
Anne Gordon
26:20
difficulty obtaining the data
PP
26:22
Being confident that information is valid
Sam Court
26:23
Senior stakeholders never make the time to listen to it
Freya
26:23
we don’t normally have time to develop an authoritative evidence base or consult
Liz.Toohey
26:28
Finding the relevant data
Meg Marsh
26:30
Finding reliable data and analysing that data
Alycia Ashcroft
26:30
I want to understand better how to create evidence based policy -where do we get the data.
Alyssa
26:31
Have tried but have not been supported by management to do it, due to resource limitations and lack of understanding of value of it.
AbigailE
26:32
ensuring you have thoroughly checked all research available
protiti.chatterjee
26:32
Data found - How reliable is the source
Liz
26:35
People don't agree on what good quality evidence is
Emily Haddow
26:35
Its challenging because sometimes the Minister's agenda doesn't align with data
Jacqueline Storey
26:35
Challenging to translate evidence into practical insights that decision makers can use and follow through on implementation
Katherine
26:36
Finding evidence that is comparable/relates to current situation.
gm1e
26:37
work in climate risk management - it's a rapidly emerging area and limited evidence to date
vic67jz
26:37
Difference between qualified evidence and what people think it should be
Optical Astronomy
26:39
Obtaining reliable data, quantifying points to find data
Jane
26:44
B - policy approves sometimes don't like what the data is telling them, especially if it goes against what a Minister wants
Anika Finnerty
26:46
Finding recent data
Lynette
26:46
costly in time
Apolitical
26:51
What do you find most challenging about using evidence in policymaking?A - I don’t know where to look to get the best evidenceB - I can’t get buy-in from colleagues or stakeholdersC - It’s very costly (in time or money) to get good evidenceD - I find that evidence ignores a human narrativeE - Something else (please share on the chat!)
Sean Riordan
26:54
B. Bias from those im trying to influence, not understanding or accepting the information
Nicole
26:56
so much data
rkaur
27:07
challenging because im not sure how to get the right data- not making data say something it doesn't
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
27:08
policy areas not willing to talk to the community
Lauren Shone
27:08
data gaps, or it sits across different agencies
Gill Hay
27:12
Some data does not exist
Nicole
27:15
data gaps
Bartley Bauer
27:18
B
Kate Watkins
27:19
Data tends to be a singular context - e.g. scientific evidence doesn't take into account economic evidence.
Jeff’s iPhone
27:22
desire for RCT
Lisa
27:25
We try hard to use good evidence, but in there can be gaps
Steve J
27:28
B & E - Getting time to collect and analyse
Fiona Calvert
27:30
I use evidence, but it is hard to find enough evidence for all aspects of what you're doing - particularly on effectiveness of potential approaches
AJ
27:30
access to data/sharing not encouraged
K Smith
27:31
data gaps/ cross agency sharing
Jacqueline Storey
27:31
Timing of inserting evidence into decision making processes
Johanna Verberne
27:36
data gaps, and overcoming organisational inertia to fill them
Xander
27:41
people tell us what they think we want to hear
Janine
27:59
We have the data - we understand the science - but the decision makers polititians don't. They just wnat a sotry. Ideologies trumps science
Jennefer Mardon
28:24
so much research and data available!!! - everything is evidence / research no matter how old! how do you pick!
Sam Court
28:28
Here to hear stories from people that have done it well before
smythl
28:34
Something else: Tips and tricks
Lynette
28:43
Gather and present evidence
Apolitical
28:43
A - Which of these sounds most like what you’re here to learn today?B - How to gather and present evidenceC - How to convince sceptics of the value of evidenceD - How to make evidence-informed policymaking part of normal practiseE - Something else (please share on the chat!)
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
28:50
how to convince policy people to talk to community before they have formed their policy solution
Bartley Bauer
28:54
B
Steve J
28:59
D
annie
29:08
C
Ellen
29:10
C
Emily Haddow
29:32
How to have policy makers value evidence over Ministerial agendas?
Ophelia Rubinich
29:54
how to encourage others to understand that data from people is complex and that is ok!
Kate Watkins
29:57
Something else - how to use evidence without it necessarily driving policy outcomes
Bartley Bauer
30:11
More likely
PP
30:15
a
Apolitical
30:16
What effect do you think COVID-19 will have on the way we use evidence in policymaking?A - It will make us more likely to use evidence in policymakingB - It will make us less likely to use evidence in policymakingC - It will have no effect on how we use evidence in policymakingD - Something else (please share on the chat!)
Jane
30:25
No effect, people are already ignoring the data coming in about flexible woeking
Steve J
30:27
C - No effect
annie
30:30
A - we can hope
Rachel Barley
30:31
Optimistically - more likely
AJ
30:31
evidence more cherrypicked to fit agendas
Anne Gordon
30:33
Lack of data will make it less likely.
Alycia Ashcroft
30:33
I would hope A ---- but I do not know
smythl
30:34
Something else: Not sure....
Ellen
30:34
c
Gillian-Kingston Council
30:38
The more we have to act quickly to respond, the less likely we are to use evidence
K Smith
30:39
A: hopefully
Lisa
30:42
not too sure
Jan
30:46
More likely ?
Janine
30:46
One good thing about COVID - everyone is a recreational epidemiologist!
Courtney
31:09
It will give us less time to do our jobs due to budget cuts - so hard to push this into BAU
Casa Dalton
31:10
Harder to do face to face community and Industry consultation
Rachel Nash
31:11
No effect we're in uncharted territory
Emily Haddow
31:15
Something else too much data how to discern what data is relevant
Jacqueline Storey
31:16
Already seeing increased use of evidence in the last few months
Gillian-Kingston Council
31:23
In times of fear, people are less likely to focus on evidence over emotive storytelling
Barnaby Waights
31:26
I think the current reliance on scientist (and science) may drive a shift in perception.
Fiona Calvert
31:33
we can't rely on our implicit understanding anymore - everything is too different. We also have to justify actions
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
31:35
We engaged with the community more than even during COVID. hopefully that will continue
Matthew Crane
31:36
Critics will often say you've never got enough evidence!
Brittany Watt
31:36
personally, when I find I’m checking myself before making policy setting suggestions based on assumptions, because COVID-19 has changed so many interdependent behaviours and levers.
Freya
32:49
hard to distinguish between pre-covid and post-covid data now
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
38:41
what the cancer council does well, is bring stories from the community and telling those to government
Kate Watkins
38:50
CSIRO
Sam Court
38:55
generative user research
Apolitical
38:58
Question: Where do you go look for evidence? What are your favorite sources?
Anita
39:05
Verity used the word "trust" - do you need that for evidence to work?
PP
39:05
ABS
Meg Marsh
39:07
SOPSIV report
Themis
39:11
community engagement
AJ
39:12
ABS
Lauren Shone
39:22
data team, advisory group
Jo-Anne
39:22
ANROWS
AJ
39:23
stakeholders
AAU
39:25
Aust. Inst of Health and Welfare
Ellen Paxton
39:31
Victorian Government Library
Nys Henry
39:36
We commission a 5yrly review of all the published scientific evidence for the Reef to inform our 5yr update of the policy document
Fiona Calvert
39:37
internal to my department is the number one source. refereed journal articles is probably number two source of evidence
Natalie C
39:45
mostly from the users (and potential) users of the products/services we build
Nicole
39:47
ABS, AIHW, APRA, RBA, ATO, DESE, DSS, CSIRO
Lisa
39:51
ABS, Industry Reports, Purchased data, procured research,
Sean Riordan
39:52
Communities of practice and Internationally recognised providers, Internal specialists
nigelm
39:53
ROGS and ABS
Lauren Shone
40:04
The Sector
AAU
40:05
Government research libraries
AJ
40:07
department internal documentation
Emily Haddow
40:10
we rely on a number of key universities and forensic specialist academics but this can create a monopoly
Xander
40:10
engagement with stakeholders; engagement with peer agencies within our jurisdiction and across jurisdictions; professional / industry bodies
Ophelia Rubinich
40:16
People on the ground working/ living in the arena I am researching.
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
40:24
Qual data from the community. we gather the "why" behind the "what" that the data will tell you
Rachel Barley
40:29
in nature conservation, a lack of evidence therefore we need to rely on expert opinion
Ben Ellwood
40:46
for the Vic education workforce, we are increasingly trying to pull more evidence from our own corporate data (e.g. finances, payroll, staff surveys, etc)
Nicole
40:51
s/t gov data
Nicole
40:59
open data portals
kkrs2001
41:06
ABS and organisations that undertake meta analysis. Other orgs, such as credible think tanks and orgs such as ACOSS etc.
rkaur
41:32
definitely needs to be a multi teir aproach to execute....but the gathering of data is confusing
Gillian-Kingston Council
41:36
Lockout laws didn't quite work in Melbourne as exemptions were allowed.
Jill Bruce
41:46
ABS - with the inherent difficulties of trying to analyze and interpret large data sets.
Jo-Anne
42:11
The trial in Newcastle was interesting for sure
Anika Finnerty
42:26
experts in the profession/field, ABS, research articles, published Committee reports, stakeholder feedback, publications in other jurisdictions. Own departmental databases.
AJ
42:30
so human stories trump evidence?
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
43:16
They support the data and ensure you are trying to fix the right problem
Janine
43:24
caught between public health and the economy - How novel - NOT!
Optical Astronomy
44:07
when is it better to rely on strong case studies and human interest rather than less rigorous, incomplete or extrapolated data?
Janine
44:28
tip - first phase to fixing a problem - understand the problem!
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
44:32
important to understand the actual issue and understanding the type of data required, often times we go looking for the wrong data as we don't understand the issue.
Gillian-Kingston Council
45:13
How do you do the trials etc. during a climate like COVID which demands urgent responses
Janine
45:50
how to present - at a reading age of 12!
Sam Dowling
46:12
But can’t lived experience support the evidence well?
Patricia Palman
46:20
solution in a page?
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
47:11
lived experience is only one point of view. you need to collect lived experiences from many different people
Janine
48:14
Lived experiences by definition are biased. Perception is not evidence
Apolitical
48:22
“Killer facts"
Optical Astronomy
49:23
lived experience will have the inside running in the public's mind, policy needs to support why this might not be the correct action
Lisa Witter
50:12
https://ssir.org/articles/entry/eight_tips_for_communicating_ideas_to_busy_policymakers
Janine
50:19
That is where using the scientific method to generate the data comes in
Apolitical
51:17
1. Public Servants Are Time Poor2. Process, Timelines, and Scalability Matter3. Be Upfront About Risks or Challenges 4. Focus on Concrete Results, and Ideally Solve for Multiple Problems 5. Avoid Factual Overload6. Make It Clear Which Partners You Need and How Much Money It Will Take7. Bolster Your Case with Existing Implementation Examples 8. Stay as Apolitical as Possible
Apolitical
51:53
Please share questions here as we go along and we’ll answer them during the Q&A!
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
52:27
totally agree!! let's first identify the problem first..
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
53:04
Go and ask the community!
Jo-Anne
55:01
Talk to your frontline staff
Megan
55:31
What do you do when you have to come up with a quick response? i.e. when you dont have two months to go to the community through proper channels???
Emily Haddow
55:40
When approaching the community/focus groups how do you ensure that the questions asked aren't leading or limiting?
Ophelia Rubinich
55:52
Qualitative data is data!
Sam Court
56:17
Do the same principles apply when it's not public policy, but rather government policy from central agencies trying to influence whole-of-government outcomes?
Janine
56:43
Lies, damned lies, and statistics !
Ophelia Rubinich
57:32
Open ended questions...looking at what people do not just what they say...ask the question in lots of different ways...be critical in your interpretation
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
57:35
good data = transparency = public trust
Scott Andrawartha
57:59
Q&A question: How do you use evidence and navigate this "post-facts" world of populism and suspicion of science?
Rachel Nash
01:00:28
What do you think about changing evidence which changes policy, ministers are then acused of the 'back flip' when do you think the media will allow policy makers to use up to date and current evidence.
Megan
01:00:34
Thanks Verity!
Meg Marsh
01:01:01
At the outset, should you also consider what data you will use to evaluate the policy you intend to implement? Is it necessarily the same as what informs policy?
Teresa Devetak
01:01:57
How do you define rigour? Do you limit your evidence to one source; or perform an environmental scan/literature review?
Jo-Anne
01:02:10
100% Carol
PP
01:02:23
Has COVID changed for the better our view of experts?
PP
01:02:45
... and if so, will it carry across to other fields, eg climate science?
Jill Bruce
01:04:20
ANU used to have an ‘Evidence based decision making’ course on Edex. I’m not sure if it’s still available but it did address some of the issues raised here in how to compare evidence.
Matthew Crane
01:04:28
See https://theconversation.com/no-youre-not-entitled-to-your-opinion-9978
Apolitical
01:06:02
Convincing the minister that the problem is 1) urgent, 2) critical and 3) obviously needs a solution
Rachel Barley
01:06:21
too right!
Lisa Witter
01:06:29
@Ophelia - so many great tips. Would you be willing to write a piece including your insights and tips?
Ophelia Rubinich
01:06:45
sure!
Sean Riordan
01:08:36
Money thrown at department for Covid, but budget is now slashed to balance the books
Vimala Colless
01:09:21
Covid has given us a huge amount of time to review face to face programs, which would be otherwise be much more limited.
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
01:09:22
So correct Carol! scale of the problem will dictate how much..
PP
01:10:03
lost the sound?
Christopher Tran
01:10:13
All good here
PP
01:10:31
:-) it's back ...
Steve J
01:10:35
Great point! How do you measure preventing something? I.e. Something that never happens because of your program/intervention?
AbigailE
01:10:53
can you post the book Upstream author
Apolitical
01:11:17
Dan Heath, Upstream: https://apolitical.co/problem-solving-masterclass/
Christopher Tran
01:11:27
Might need to do research with a control group to show the cost/benefit to show the benefit of prevention?
Lisa Witter
01:12:00
https://apolitical.co/en/solution_article/evidence-based-policymaking-is-there-room-for-science-in-politics
Lisa Witter
01:12:11
https://apolitical.co/en/solution_article/3-ways-evidence-can-help-you-make-difficult-decisions
Lisa Witter
01:12:29
https://apolitical.co/en/solution_article/3-ways-evidence-can-help-you-make-difficult-decisions
Nicole
01:13:01
Sorry, I need to leave a bit early. Thank you for arranging this session. I have gained some really good insights from Carol and Verity - Brilliant.
Vimala Colless
01:13:02
Exactly! Great point Verity
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
01:13:02
Thanks!
Emily Haddow
01:13:05
https://policy.bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/culture-and-values-at-the-heart-of-policy-making
Apolitical
01:13:55
Question: What is your one-word (or one sentence) takeaway from today?
Michael McQueen
01:13:57
"Killer facts"
Morwynne
01:14:03
Partnership!
Kate Watkins
01:14:05
Connections
protiti.chatterjee
01:14:05
"Story Telling"
Katy - Policy Officer - Adelaide
01:14:07
Collborative
Jennifer Quincey
01:14:07
Data and stories
Lloyd Kingham
01:14:09
evidence
Meredene Hill
01:14:09
interrogate
Robert
01:14:09
Multiple knowledges
Irene Chymyn - NSW State Archives and Records
01:14:11
data-driven
Patricia Palman
01:14:11
proof points
Sarah Gowty
01:14:11
Opportunity
PP
01:14:12
Engagement
Alyssa
01:14:12
Killer facts
Janine
01:14:13
stories are stickier
Jack Hayes
01:14:13
Context
Julia Stevenson Lyon
01:14:13
The Story
Johanna Verberne
01:14:14
Three killer facts
Alycia Ashcroft
01:14:14
Story telling and Killer facts
Lovelle
01:14:14
know the problem
Necia Fisher BizLab
01:14:14
Collaboration
Josie Sowter
01:14:14
stories
Lachlan
01:14:14
Telling stories with evidence
Anita
01:14:15
Building pilots
Optical Astronomy
01:14:16
know the audience
Choity Jones
01:14:16
killer facts
Jamie Curran
01:14:16
More collaboration and working together!!
S Lia
01:14:17
Translation
Lisa Witter
01:14:18
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carmel
01:14:18
multiple sources
kkrs2001
01:14:19
Think broadly about evidence, not just formal research.
Chris S.
01:14:20
Killer facts 2
Lynette
01:14:20
combine science and judgement
Freya
01:14:21
data points and human stories equally important
Steve J
01:14:22
Be clear on the problem
Aimee Reeves - Facilitation support
01:14:22
Qual and quant both data
Marlene
01:14:22
Broad engagement and evidence
Ben Ellwood
01:14:24
timing
nerida.joss
01:14:24
knowledge translation
Meg Gooley
01:14:24
considered
AbigailE
01:14:25
3 key facts for decision makers
Sam Dowling
01:14:25
killer facts
Xander
01:14:26
balance between data and stories
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
01:14:27
message
Jill Bruce
01:14:27
collaboration
Grace
01:14:29
upstream thinking
Kendall
01:14:29
Partnerships
Delvene Ahn
01:14:30
Stories stickier than data
nigelm
01:14:30
broader collaboratiion
Dinesha
01:14:31
link to problem and be clear
Rachel Barley
01:14:32
"politicians love data that fits a story"
Fiona Calvert
01:14:32
parallel of data to inform decision and stories to explain it
Sean Riordan
01:14:32
Killer facts
Rachel Nash
01:14:33
Stories dont trump evidence. Using evidence will always be science and judgement
Bartley Bauer
01:14:33
Understand the problem
Sam Dowling
01:14:33
partnerships
Wendy Fardon
01:14:34
balance data and human stores
Themis
01:14:34
look them in the eye
Jo-Anne
01:14:39
Stay Current
Emily Haddow
01:14:42
networking for prevention
Sam Dowling
01:14:45
Plain language
samara.mcilroy
01:14:47
Facetime
Emma Vanian
01:14:52
practical
Lisa Witter
01:14:52
Rebuilding trust in government in painful and turbulent times: Perspectives from the US and global discussion 23 July, 5-6pm (BST)https://apolitical.co/rebuild-trust-government-workshop/Innovating in Government: Lessons from Silicon ValleyThursday 6 August, 3-3:30pm (BST)https://apolitical.co/lean-impact-masterclass/
Sam Court
01:14:54
quant for treasury, qual for announcements
Salina Hand
01:14:57
interrogate the problem
Casa Dalton
01:14:57
define the problem trying to fix
Natalie Neal
01:15:02
university / public service partnerships
Anne Gordon
01:15:02
upstream thinking
Sean Riordan
01:15:10
killer facts
Johanna Verberne
01:15:11
It’s winter here!
Salina Hand
01:15:20
thank you
Anika Finnerty
01:15:22
clear evidence about the problem
Naju Mehra (Naju Mehra)
01:15:29
Thank you Carol, Verity & Lisa!!
AAU
01:15:31
Don't re-write the book - us historical polic docs
PP
01:15:32
Thank you!
Verity Firth
01:15:34
Can we get a download of the chat so that I can click on all these great links?
Christopher Tran
01:15:34
Thanks all
Sam Dowling
01:15:35
Thank you Apolitical
gzgreen
01:15:35
Thank you all so much!
Whitney SMITH
01:15:38
thank you
Verity Firth
01:15:40
Thanks everyone!!!!
Apolitical
01:15:47
@Verity, yes!
Megan
01:16:03
Thanks - very insightful!