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SB22-205 Task Force - Shared screen with speaker view
Shannon Gray
15:33
Link to submit written comments: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeRDnKE-qPKvqGcNzHWh60MESHnn-hslgsdLZVCnNOGWcWYLw/viewform
Shannon Gray
16:06
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Allison Robinette - Colo. MED
18:10
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OE3meEz8uPO7-csNQHWMDOH9GlJXeewS
Shannon Gray
21:32
All - today's slides will be added to the public folder after the meeting.
Shannon Gray
21:55
Here is the SB22-205 Task Force webpage: https://sbg.colorado.gov/med/205-Task-Force
Shannon Gray
23:11
Here is the SB22-205 Task Force Public Materials Folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1OE3meEz8uPO7-csNQHWMDOH9GlJXeewS
Kate with GPS (she/her/ella)
23:17
Link to submit written comments: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeRDnKE-qPKvqGcNzHWh60MESHnn-hslgsdLZVCnNOGWcWYLw/viewform
Kate with GPS (she/her/ella)
43:29
Link to the LucidSpark board: https://tinyurl.com/f888t5wn ​
Kate with GPS (she/her/ella)
47:49
4 categories: 1) definitions & statutory updates, 2) Cannabinoid limits for products (e.g., edibles), 3) naturally derived cannabinoids vs. artificially derived cannabinoids, 4) manufacturing standards for intoxicating hemp production and/or artificially derived cannabinoids, 5) transfer and sale of intoxicating hemp products 6)other ideas?
Matt Cooper
53:45
Will the LucidSpark board be posted in the Public Materials Folder?
Alan Lewis - Natural Grocers
58:51
Please repost the link to the board. Got kicked off.
Hermine Ngnomire
59:09
https://tinyurl.com/f888t5wn
Kate with GPS (she/her/ella)
01:00:00
Link to the LucidSpark board: https://tinyurl.com/f888t5wn ​
Hermine Ngnomire
01:00:12
fascinating. same rigor for all forms of cannabis.
Mark Angerhofer
01:02:16
Will the subgroup meetings be open to the public as well?
karamiller2icloud.com
01:02:30
The discussion at the legislature were per unit, per package and per total sale
Kate with GPS (she/her/ella)
01:04:55
Link to the LucidSpark board: https://tinyurl.com/f888t5wn
Allison Robinette - Colo. MED
01:05:36
Yes, all subcommittee meetings will be open to the public and information about those meetings will be available on the MED website. Subcommittee meetings will also be recorded and those recordings will be available as well.
Mark Angerhofer
01:10:23
Thank you Allison
Samantha Walsh (she|her)
01:10:41
There seems to be a lot of opinions and talking points masquerading as "topics". I think it would make sense to purge some of those and keep to neutral subject matters to be debated with those opinions later. For clarity and organizational sake
Jason Warf
01:13:20
I am not understanding to push in the comments to align cannabis and hemp. They are two separate industries and should be treated as such.
Danielle Henry
01:16:07
The Following taskforce member signed up for the drafting committee:
Danielle Henry
01:17:40
Christian SederbergBruce NassauStephen CobbSasha Kalcheff-KornTruman BradleyJared StanleyMichael HennesyGarrett GraffJohn HarloeKyle RayAlan LewisPriyanka SharmaErik Paulson
Chris Fontes
01:19:16
How is this incredibly difficult, complex, and impactful task going to have any solid movement in 8 hours of committee? This seems like a monumental task for only 8 hours and in danger of being rushed for the sake of “getting it done”
Wanda James
01:19:38
Could you please add my name to drafting. For some reason my computer wont let me
Chris Fontes
01:20:10
Further, perhaps it would be beneficial to cover existing laws and regs? Comments on the board indicate that several do not understand current regs regarding testing and labeling.
Hermine Ngnomire
01:20:22
+1 Chris!
Chris Fontes
01:21:22
Additionally, can we define what the “problem” is that is trying to be solved?
Hermine Ngnomire
01:22:48
Can there be a subcommittee for Social equity?
Alan Lewis - Natural Grocers
01:23:48
It would be helpful if the task force reached agreement on whether Colorado intends to follow federal rules for foods/dietary supplements or not.
Samantha Walsh (she|her)
01:24:54
Since the TF is also defining the synthesis process, cannabinoids derived via that process make sense to be include. So Kyle ahs a points.
James Granger
01:26:00
HHC
Stephen Cobb
01:26:04
THCP
Stephen Cobb
01:26:08
THCO and other acetates, etc
Alan Lewis - Natural Grocers
01:26:33
Jared is correct. Focus on D8 D10 should be primary focus and that's big enough.
Bia Campbell
01:27:30
And total amount of THC - and all isomers
Isaac Foster
01:28:11
THC:CBD Ratio is also a very important factor when judging the euphoric potential of a product
Christian Sederberg
01:28:22
Delta 9 cannot be left out
Isaac Foster
01:28:48
Delta should be left at Federal definitions
Stephen Cobb
01:28:49
It is safe to say all THC isomers and analogues are intoxicating and are in the scope of this TG
Isaac Foster
01:29:27
Delta 9 from Hemp should be left at Federal definition
Kyle Ray
01:29:47
Stephen, I do not believe so. Some THC Alkyl analogues are non-intoxicating such as THCV.
Bia Campbell
01:29:57
Agree with Stephen. And the need to go beyond the current definition on dry weight basis. (o.3%)
James Granger
01:30:06
Agree with Stephen
Truman Bradley
01:30:07
Agree with Stephen.
Mike Hennesy
01:30:09
THCV is biphasic
Chris Fontes
01:30:25
I agree with Isaac
Mike Hennesy
01:30:36
It is non-intoxicating at low doses and intoxicating at high doses
Isaac Foster
01:32:59
Mike, do you mean THCV causes Euphoria? If you have proof that it is in fact Toxic, could you please share that with the group? My understanding is that there is no naturally occurring hemp derivative that has any history of toxicity.
Mike Hennesy
01:34:01
There is an unpublished study going on and will be released in August or September. Happy to share when it is published. Reports of euphoria in humans at 200mg doses.
Isaac Foster
01:34:14
So Euphoria. not toxicity
Mike Hennesy
01:34:26
Back to the definitions :)
Isaac Foster
01:34:44
Toxic is a scientific definition not a legal one
Stephen Cobb
01:34:58
Not scholarly, but a pop sci article supporting the claim of THCV being biphasic https://wayofleaf.com/education/thcv-tetrahydrocannabivarin
James Granger
01:35:22
in case that helps, some research with articles
Jason Warf
01:39:07
I would suggest extra meetings. This is such a small amount of time. The end goal should be sensible legislation that the hemp industry is comfortable with and we would be able to support passing.
John Harloe
01:39:15
agree
Truman Bradley
01:40:37
was hard to hear for me
Stephen Cobb
01:40:41
I was unable to understand Hunter
Mike Hennesy
01:40:45
Same
Ean Seeb
01:40:45
I didn't hear any of what she said.
Bia Campbell
01:41:07
The goal should be sensible legislation that protects public health and allows businesses to thrive in a regulated environment that is based on consumer protections and scientific limitations.
Mike Hennesy
01:41:59
As well as fitting into the ecosystem of existing regulations at the national and state level.
Bia Campbell
01:42:43
Agreed. Based on legislative intent
karamiller2icloud.com
01:44:00
Agree the entire discussion at the legislature was intoxicating hemp products
Stephen Cobb
01:45:37
https://chemrxiv.org/engage/api-gateway/chemrxiv/assets/orp/resource/item/6271c003d048edf65f5b45d9/original/vaping-cannabinoid-acetates-leads-to-ketene-formation.pdf
Stephen Cobb
01:45:41
https://norml.org/news/2021/11/11/analysis-grey-market-delta-8-products-frequently-mislabeled/
Stephen Cobb
01:46:30
Novel Δ 8-Tetrahydrocannabinol Vaporizers Contain Unlabeled Adulterants, Unintended Byproducts of Chemical Synthesis, and Heavy MetalsJiries Meehan-Atrash, Irfan RahmanPMID: 34889611 DOI: 10.1021/acs.chemrestox.1c00388
John
01:47:10
I missed it, are sub-groups public?
karamiller2icloud.com
01:47:40
Thanks for the reports Stephen
Aj
01:48:39
John-as per CO law every conversation pertaining between two or more task force members must be made open to the public
Samantha Walsh (she|her)
01:48:43
yes sub groups are public per sunshine laws
Dominique Mendiola, Colorado Marijuana Enforcement Division
01:48:50
Subgroup meetings will be noticed and open to the public.
John
01:49:49
Thanks
Kate with GPS (she/her/ella)
01:50:17
Non-task force members you also may submit written comments:​https://tinyurl.com/2w53cj73
Chris Fontes
01:50:29
Thanks, Kate!
Stephen Cobb
01:51:01
You've done a great job Greg, thank you
Truman Bradley
01:51:10
Ty for facilitating
Mike Hennesy
01:51:21
Thanks All
Benjamin Teevan
01:51:39
Thanks everyone for a productive start to this conversation.
James Granger
01:51:48
Thanks all!
Danielle Henry
01:53:18
taskforce website: https://sbg.colorado.gov/med/205-Task-Force
Danielle Henry
01:54:03
Danielle.Henry@state.co.us
Danielle Henry
01:54:58
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