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Michele Smith
16:20
All ecosystems have a right to exist, irrespective of human kind.
Michele Smith
21:53
Things don't need to be measured to have value. We can say yes or no to conservation without putting a number on it.
merina Lohani Sitoula
28:52
Measuring the value emphasises the importance of conservation. Saying 'No' to conservation has been problematic which is why we need a better way to convince people of the value of conservation.
Michele Smith
32:26
I think the value of conservation is self evident. The benefits are immeasurable.
merina Lohani Sitoula
33:45
If that was self-evident and valued we would not be losing biodiversity at this rate today. Sometimes, we need to bring out the latent value explicitly for it to be valued.
Sam Marginson
34:21
by saying yes to conservation you are by definition assigning a value to it - a value that is greater than the alternative
ANZ SEE
39:29
Sorry please mute
Michele Smith
47:26
I think we need to be frugal, not prosperous.
Peter Maddock
49:16
Agree
merina Lohani Sitoula
49:35
We need prosperity not economic growth
merina Lohani Sitoula
51:10
reducing population growth is the most crucial element to address overall issue of sustainable development
Gus Perez
53:07
Isn’t there a contradiction between circular economy and ecological economics. One says things go circular, the other, based on the second law of thermodynamics, says things are non-linear, but degrading?
Sam Marginson
53:51
I'm not sure population growth is "the most crucial element" of sustainability. Most resources are consumed by the wealthy. Many still live in poverty & have little impact on the environment from a global perspective. Population growth is one piece of the puzzle but we also need to reduce our environmental impact per capita
ANZ SEE
53:53
If you have a Q, just unmute and ask when the opportunity present itself next
merina Lohani Sitoula
55:44
Sam, even if resources are equitably distributed, that would not reduce per capita consumption.
Boyd Blackwell
57:13
Varun - there was a ABC landline documentary on regenerative ag and where it is heading and the role it may play in transforming the sector, society and economy.
Garry Reed
58:26
Since I went to the inaugural ANZSEE conference in Coffs Harbour in 1995 I have encountered hostility and resistance to ecological economics from many of my grassroots conservationist friends - I have recently become aware of a campaign to stop the financialization of nature - is there a dialogue about that one can access?
Jeremy De Valck
58:46
Decreasing population is only part of the solution. See IPAT equation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_%3D_PAT
merina Lohani Sitoula
58:50
Spot on James!
Boyd Blackwell
59:56
Varun - here is the link https://www.abc.net.au/landline/eco-premium:-regenerative-agriculture-pays-off-for/11643296
Varun Bhardwaj
01:01:33
Thanks Boyd
Boyd Blackwell
01:04:25
Varun, this may be of interest as well https://www.facebook.com/groups/regenerativeagriculture/
Varun Bhardwaj
01:05:04
I just wanted to add to the population discussion the observation that historically, a lot more people have been able to sustain in regions of the world which appear hostile. This would lead us to question any claims that an increasing population necessarily leads to an unsustainable relationship with ecosystems.
merina Lohani Sitoula
01:07:36
Increasing population=increasing pressure on resources=increasing demands=increasing consumption= reduced carrying capacity of ecosystems.....
Varun Bhardwaj
01:08:06
Yes but this depends on how we relate to the ecosystem
Igor Pershin
01:08:18
could you please send details of the far north Queensland projects you just mentioned?
Sam Marginson
01:08:30
increasing population only puts increasing pressure resources if our per capita consumption declines by less than the population grows
ANZ SEE
01:08:31
If you have got the time wrong and/or missed out on the presentation, please check out the ANZSEE website via https://anzsee.org.au/seminar-series-2020/
merina Lohani Sitoula
01:09:33
Even if we care about ecosystem and its sustainability , the need to provide for basic requirements of increasing population, with finite nature resources they will eventually deplete
merina Lohani Sitoula
01:12:19
Thanks Anna for this wonderful discussion! It was really insightful
Jim McFarlane
01:12:27
Well done everyone!
ANZ SEE
01:12:37
You can email ANZSEE on anzsee2015@gmail.com
ANZ SEE
01:13:16
thanks for your participation
Igor Pershin
01:13:26
thank you
Imre Szeredi
01:13:28
Thanks! That was a great talk.
ANZ SEE
01:13:29
bye