For Ian, this is a catalytic moment, where the opportunity for change is now. It is not time to simply bounce back or reset to the same operating system. Bouncing back to business as usual would be disastrous, leading to escalating inequality, potentially more devastating pandemics and escalating climate change. Drawing on the experience of history, Ian identifies how during the Second World War the welfare state and new world order was created to build more cohesive societies and overcome global threats. We have to, once again, work to create anew such a world order, a new way of relating.